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Elfn safety... My house is covered by this magical thing...
You pay this wizard called "Broker" and all your stolen stuff is turned in to shiney new things.
Raid away. Please.
On the same note, rear end my car or van. Pretty please.
Midge, only a quick scan through that link, but looks like he was speeding in bad weather? A number of deciding factors involved in the crash there i'd say.
One case makes bad statistics..
missingfrontallobe - Memberdon simon - Member
Works car park- private land.If the car park has any markings (parking bays, give ways etc) then road laws still apply.
Are you kidding me?
So a works car park with no public access, i.e. a sign saying "No public access", yet with markings has public laws applied.
I can understand, maybe, a large shop which has public/private parking on their own land, the law would apply.
But a carpark solely for staff use, authorised use???
Maybe the driver takes the good tyres into the office as a security precaution and leaves the car with crap tyres in the street. That way, if the car is stolen the driver doesn't lose his new alloys and tyres. 😀 💡
Absolutely U31, it could also have been due to his dubious t-shirt design!
I believe that previous STW threads have already decided that speeding doesn't increase accident risk 😉
More like his grossly miss-proportioned fizzog 😛
if only surfer matt were here to tell us about the performance of this car; and perhaps we might also hear about was he is currently driving, too?
8)
Actually, Elfinsafety, soft drugs like weed still make millions for drug cartels, and buying it directly finances masses of violence.
U31, I get the sense that you think you're being pragmatic and practical, but really you're just being selfish, in my opinion.
If only glupton was here: he could tell us how he could write his name in tyre marks with it after everyone else has gone home. Or even between the remaining cars at quarter past five.
Oh, back on topic: no harm in leaving a friendly 'i just happened to notice' note under the wiper and see what happens after payday. Some people really just don't notice. I have a friend with a 10 year old 316 'compact' who probably wouldn't notice until about half a mile after one of the tyres blew out!
Elfn safety... My house is covered by this magical thing...
Ok then. I see you getting beaten up and robbed. Should I just walk away, as it's not affecting me? 🙄
Actually, Elfinsafety, soft drugs like weed still make millions for drug cartels, and buying it directly finances masses of violence.
Fair point. I suppose I was thinking more of the immediate effect of the crime on a particular area. By and large, Cannabis dealing doesn't cause anywhere near the problems that come with Heroin and Cocaine. In fact, the homegrown weed industry has reduced the amount needing to be imported from overseas, thus reducing the associated crime. Dope smokers don't tend to rob old ladies of their pension, to fund their next 'hit'.
But you know what I was on about anyway! 😉
Grossley selfish mate.
I work like this
Order of importance i look after...
Me
Wife
Kids
immediate family- ma, siblings, inlaws
Close friends (very few)
Good friends (probly 10 or so)
Next door nieghbours
If i'm not in sh*t state, then those directly beneath me benefit.
I stop caring what people who do not matter to me think of me, i dont buy flash cars and oversize widescreen tv's to appear important to neighbours or colleagues i hardly know.
People in the above list know i'm more than comfortable in the skin i'm in, and know me well enough to get the gist that i'm my own man and not an accumulation of tat where the price of everything is known at the expense of its value, nor will i bow down to peer pressure when it is crystal clear that there are other equally relevant viewpoints, just to impress or appear to "Fit In " to societal norms.
I would suggests this makes me a far better person all round. I at least try and look at all viewpoints before forming an opinion, not joining a kneejerk bandwaggon because that is what is expected.
I'll listen to advice. I'll back down when i'm proven wrong, but trust me, in regards to this thread i'm bang on the money.
To summarise, the morality of driving on bald tyres, taking away the legal aspect for one moment, is entirely the remit of the driver. You cant legislate for morality, even though the last 15 years it is what the government has tried to do just so.
Either the driver knows he poses potential hazard or he is a moron. But on the flip side of the same coin a driver poses a potential hazard by just driving the car, full stop, weather its just this second left the factory, or its held together with bailing twine and bean cans.
Elf.
Absolutely.
Why put yourself in harms way for a stranger.
thanks to U31 for that awesome little homily!
U31
I'll listen to advice. I'll back down when i'm proven wrong, but trust me, in regards to this thread i'm bang on the money.
In your opinion only. Myself I have a broader vision of society than your very narrow selfish one
So you wouldn't shop a drunk driver? What about if you see someone walking own the street with a gun?
How about if you saw a women being beaten up? Would you walk on by or assist? Even report that to the police?
No and no, as a similar question was asked earlier. That is what we have a police force for. (caveat, in an ideal society)
And i'll say again. Folk are dangerous stone cold sober and driving the best possible equipment.
Do you want me to tell you the story about me and 3 off duty doormen standing idly by while the biggest riot in history i have ever witnessed happened 100 yd from where we were standing, while bar managers begged us to help?
So we know now you are selfish and self centred with no moral compass. Nice. its a good job the world is not full of folk like you. I do hope you don't need somones assistance one day.
U31 - MemberDo you want me to tell you the story about me and 3 off duty doormen standing idly by while the biggest riot in history i have ever witnessed happened 100 yd from where we were standing, while bar managers begged us to help?
U31, is there any more of that story left to tell? I suppose you remember it so well cos you got your shoes all bloody stepping over injured folk on the way home?
[edit] lordy, TJ you have found your true opposite at last! I like to think that if you two ever met, there would be some kind of Physics Event and both of you would diappear in a cloud of subatomic particles.
U31 ok so you obviously don't give a sh!t but what happens if this BMW ploughs in to the back of you tomorrow? I bet you give a sh!t then?
I'd shop the owner. You have a duty to maintain your car in a road worthy standard and just saying he might not have know he had bald tyres is just rubbish, its about personal responsibility.
Shop, but will the Police actually do anything?
What use would it have been, for the 4 of us getting thrown in to the back of the van along with the rioters, getting charged and fined. Do you think the police could have differentiated in that mellee? I sure as hell couldn't.
This is called the real world.
Dunc, i'd claim whiplash and get a new car.
It's no biggie, is it?
And as for the BMW being uninsured, there is legal provision for that event, a friend got paid very handsomely for just that.
If the the crash didnt kill you but, I guess that wouldnt bother you either would it 😐
Sorry Julian, i missed your post, no actually, i doubled back and walked home the opposite way, a mile extra but better then the possible alternative of getting beaten up or worse.
I explained to the bar manager almost what i said up there, words to the effect : i'm full of vodka, these lads are no longer on duty, so in the eyes of the police we'd be part of the problem, not part of the cure.
Kinnel dunc, now your being facetious! how could i give a damn when i'm dead! 😛
Dunc, i'd claim whiplash and get a new car.
It's no biggie, is it?
Supprisingly enough, it f**** hurts, a lot, for months, I'm approaching the 2 year mark form the accident* and still can't stand up for periods of time.
*not car related, landed on concreet head first, from height and messed up my lower back.
U31 - MemberSorry Julian, i missed your post, no actually, i doubled back and walked home the opposite way, a mile extra but better then the possible alternative of getting beaten up or worse.
awwww, what an anticlimax. 😛
You see, i'm not a hard case ten men gangsta, and i kind of like the idea of being alive, compis mentis with my full quota of bodily appendages.
Nor do i like the thought of unnecessary criminal convictions.
You have not answered this. You see a woman being badly beaten by one man. do you intervene?
Supprisingly enough, it f**** hurts, a lot, for months, I'm approaching the 2 year mark form the accident* and still can't stand up for periods of time.*not car related, landed on concreet head first, from height and messed up my lower back.
Yup. Roger that.
14 year ago i fell out the trailer of a waggon i was driving and landed on my coccyx.
3 month after it hit me, i couldnt walk, lying down, sitting or standing was agonising, i had to overdose nearly on painkillers just to do basic functions. Socks and shoes were a joke, and still to this day after a long ride or a fierce single track my back will lock up when i get home and sit down.
Yeah U31 I think even secretly you may have gone a bit too far with yourself to prove a point. I fully believe in live and let live and from the initial description it was stated that the vehicle was in the works car parks so fine leave alone.
But now the OP has explicitly stated that it has moved. You could argue that the vehicle has been taken away on the back of a lorry, and it may well return on the back of a lorry for a multitude of reasons.
So unless it has been seen driving on a public road then no crime has been committed and there has been no danger tot he public. I would wait until I see it driving on the road, like entering and leaving the car park, and then I would just fone the cops and tell them.
I defo would not leave a note or have any personal communication with the driver/owner, who know what kind of wrath that may bring. I mean if he's the kind of guy who would disrespect the law with regard to tyres maybe he disregards the law in other ways. No thanks.
Tandem, yes i did answer. Its still no. No.
More likely then not the girlfreind turns on you too.
Your either trolling or have lead a very sheltered life?
Lol toys, sometimes you need to go to extremes to get a point across when someone is unwilling to listen.
There is always a contextual turning point where a moral compass kicks in. I abhor fighting. I have done though. I normally wouldnt step in, but if its obviously bullying, i have....
don simon - Membermissingfrontallobe - Member
don simon - Member
Works car park- private land.If the car park has any markings (parking bays, give ways etc) then road laws still apply.
Are you kidding me?
No. If someone hits your car in a "private" car park, how do you think you're still able to claim on their insurance? Or would you not?
I was told this information by local police BTW when my missus car was hit by someone in a carpark who left false details, they pretty much said if she could ID who had hit her car then they'd assist in sorting things out (fail to stop etc). Sadly she didn't and was left with a £700 insurance claim on a new car.
why not jsut leave a polite note on the window saying "hey, i noticed your tyres are looking pretty bald, at the moment its 3 points for each tyre under the limit and a fine... i know how easy it is not to notice bald tyres, but the police seem to be much quicker to notice than us normal drivers! hope you dont mind the note... just thought it might help :)"
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nice and polite, havent left your name or anything, then if you notice it continue to drive with bald tyres then you know you're dealing with someone who is driving knowing they're not safe.. then its time to rethink the polite approach, but until then everyone seems to be working on a lot of assumptions about a car/driver.
Neither - I just have a very different world view to you.
I think that is outrageously selfish. I have intervened a couple of times in that sort of situation. I am no fighter but I do believe in do as you would be done by and in helping folk where I can.
I have not lived a sheltered life at all. However I think you are a selfish morally deficient person if you could walk on by while some is being beaten. You would be happy if someone didn't come to your aid when needed?
You see it as logic - I see it as justifying your selfish attitude.
If it was you the victim and people did not come to your aid then would you be content?
I'd certainly understand if no one came forward. It's big bad world out there and how would your wife feel if she was left without a husband/ dad, just because you tried to help me?
Proud at a later date, doubtless, but F*Ing devastated for a very long time. And pride doesn't pay the bills
TJ - here's one for you
You're busy with your usual morning spent looking around the side of your net curtains when you notice a criminal has parked with one of his wheels on double yellows
now here's the question ........
what's the phone number of the local traffic warden office?
Rhetorical. Its on speed dial.... 😀
Worry about things you can change. Leave a very polite anonymous note and move on.
It's big bad world out there
To a large extent because of attitudes like yours, U31.
why not wait for the cars owner to return - and have a private word then?
That way he can tell everybody else where you work just what an old dinner-lady you are. Though i imagine they would already know.
In the meantime, try to get a life.
So Manson, i'm now the one breaking in to your house, mugging your wife, poking your teen daughter and injecting her with crack?
I think you'll find you a wrong mate, Very very wrong, but you justify it however you like and keep burying your head in the sand.
U31, are you a robot, you seem to have absorbed a load of personality traits from a few of the louder STWers, I recognize some of my own invective in there. It's not a critisicm, just an observation. I feel sure you are the creation of a computer program or of the mind of a pastiche writer who said "I know lets create an STW persona who is a mix of Ton, Cynic-Al, Molgrips, TJ, PP, Toys19, davetaylforth,macavity and a load of others and see how long it takes for the STW collective to catch on