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sorry but you do sound incompetent

So do you.


 
Posted : 05/09/2013 10:48 am
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we've reached that level now have we? 🙄


 
Posted : 05/09/2013 11:01 am
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You're the one telling me I'm incompetent without any evidence.

I had a look in the transmission case on a slight slope, to check the oil condition. I merely happened to mention that it was not obviously underfilled.


 
Posted : 05/09/2013 11:09 am
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You're the one telling me I'm incompetent without any evidence.
To be fair to greeble, some might be of the opinion that there's about 6 pages of evidence right here!


 
Posted : 05/09/2013 11:46 am
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Best thing Moly, bugger off and get it sorted however you see fit. When it's done, come back and let us all know what magic was weaved.

There's little point in this continuing as it's currently just a vehicle for your debating skills...


 
Posted : 05/09/2013 11:48 am
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I just posted for anyone who's interested in what happened with the car. Got some good technical posts and some good advice, which is appreciated. But people seem to like to tell me how stupid I am too.


 
Posted : 05/09/2013 11:51 am
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There's little point in this continuing as it's currently just a vehicle for your debating skills...

and this thread has turned into a mass-debate.

I feel it should come to its end


 
Posted : 05/09/2013 11:52 am
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Yeah but it's not really going anywhere is it? You've got a couple of ideas (mostly based on using someone who knows what they're doing - well duh!). You just need to either sell it, live with it or fix it.

You don't want to sell it, fair enough.

You say you want to fix it.

So you've either mastered the skills etc via this journey of discovery or you need to use an 'expert'. Choose one and crack on.

There's not much more to it is there?


 
Posted : 05/09/2013 11:55 am
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Amen boblo


 
Posted : 05/09/2013 11:59 am
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Oh.. no.. I should not have looked....

2007 Skoda Superb 2.5 [b]V6[/b] TDI £5,995


 
Posted : 06/09/2013 3:49 pm
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tbh Moly I do have some sympathy as I believe it is usually cheaper/better to repair something you know than to buy something new, but now and again it is better just to get rid.

I ran a m/c past 50k, bought it new and loved it. But when I look back the cost after 35k meant it would've been cheaper just to have bought a new one. In the last two years I've swapped out 2 cars due to the cost to fix (autobox on one and 2 pages of MOT failures/advisories on the other); but then I buy at the end of the market that lets me 'walk' when I need to. Plus always pay cash so no finance issues.

I'd get rid if I was you.


 
Posted : 06/09/2013 6:08 pm
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A poorly matched ECU is not indicative of recurring mechanical issues though is it?


 
Posted : 06/09/2013 6:14 pm
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There's little point in this continuing as it's currently just a vehicle for [s]your debating skills...[/s] [i]a mob mentality to develop and just have a pop at someone because others have[/i]

FIFY

Take the car to a PROPER expert and say

These Experts you refer to don't work in garages, they work in VAG development in Germany and you can't just take your car to them. Having been in the same situation, it's very hard to find anyone who can properly diagnose ECU problems as the tools don't exist outside of the manufacturer's R&D teams.


 
Posted : 06/09/2013 6:33 pm
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Don't be silly Ben, we were just going round in circles. Moly likes to ask for feedback and then forensically examine it to the death. In this case the choices are limited. That's all.

BTW, I don't need you to fix my posts thanks, I'll look after them myself.

<edit> and if it's impossible to get to someone who knows about ECU's (I don't subscribe to this BTW) and Moly doesn't want to put up with the issue, that just leaves one choice. No?


 
Posted : 06/09/2013 6:39 pm
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Do these experts read this forum? If not there's not much point talking any more about it.
Leave it somewhere with the keys in. The neighborhood should be as rough as possible.


 
Posted : 06/09/2013 6:41 pm
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BTW, I don't need you to fix my posts thanks, I'll look after them myself.

Interesting double standards, fine to have a pop at Molly, but someone makes a comment on one of your posts and that's just not cricket....


 
Posted : 06/09/2013 6:49 pm
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[i]A poorly matched ECU is not indicative of recurring mechanical issues though is it? [/i]

Its nothing to do with the reason, just cash - that is all that matters.


 
Posted : 06/09/2013 6:52 pm
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Cash and aggravation. One usually resolves the other.


 
Posted : 06/09/2013 6:57 pm
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My point is that the ecu issue is no reason to assume the car will cost me more money down the line.

PS thanks footflaps 🙂


 
Posted : 06/09/2013 7:23 pm
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My point is that the ecu issue is no reason to assume the car will cost me more money down the line.

Your point is incorrect. That is not a safe assumption to make.


 
Posted : 06/09/2013 7:37 pm
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I struggle with long sentences but I did see A1 Diagnostics quoted...The garage on Sloper Road?

Dodgy as a very dodgy thing IMHO, will never go back there again


 
Posted : 06/09/2013 9:12 pm
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Glupton. I didn't make an assumption, I was refuting assumptions.

Sinsir - why? This seems to be the same everywhere I go. You can never be sure.


 
Posted : 07/09/2013 8:11 am
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Took car in to get A/C recharge using groupon voucher. They inevitably found something wrong which I had no way of verifying and so I had to pay up, and when I collected the car it was only running on 3 cylinders. They patched it up only for it to run like a dog again only a mile from the garage.

May be coincidence and unfair of me to criticize, but I wont be going back there again


 
Posted : 07/09/2013 10:36 am
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Hm. Well They did what I asked of then this time which was ok.

Anyway, topped up the transmission fluid, it took a couple of hundred mls of fluid but it made bugger all difference.


 
Posted : 07/09/2013 6:38 pm
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They did what you asked of them and it made no difference?


 
Posted : 07/09/2013 6:40 pm
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Well, the main thing I wanted to check was the software version. He updated it, and he ruled out a few other things.


 
Posted : 07/09/2013 7:03 pm
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[i]tbh Moly I do have some sympathy as I believe it is usually cheaper/better to repair something you know than to buy something new, but now and again it is better just to get rid.[/i]

At least I took my own advice today.

Looking for a new car for Mrs b r and we went and test-drove the one she fancies. While away they put her car in the workshop for a quick check to get a p/x price. When we got back the Saleman asked whether we knew of anything wrong with it. Yep, it's making odd noises that we (and our local garage) can't trace.

Torque-converter is on its way out...

Ah.

So a deal was done and I reckon its cost us an extra £500 over a 'possible' deal we could've got if our p/x had been trouble-free (for year). Plus the MOT (£50 plus any fixes) and tax (£450!) were due next month - so quits really.

Current car bought new and run for 7 years and 110k, so as long as she keeps this as long it'll be fine.


 
Posted : 07/09/2013 7:06 pm
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Mols, I think you are at where I was about a year ago: You've finally fallen out of love with Passats!
I got my first Passat in '89; what a pleasure it was to own a well engineered product, after having had Peugots; Ok, maybe they didn't drive as well but at least the ancillaries weren't designed by the boy that gets sent out to buy the morning croissants!
Three Passats later however and the shine has finally worn off: Yes they are solid and well engineered, but they always build in really stupid design features that ruin an otherwise good package.
In my last one (01 TDI) it was the ridiculous front suspension that needed replacing every 18 months, the injector wiring that wasn't heat resistant despite being sat in the cylinder head, and worst of all, the issue with being unable to cope with heavy rain (the plenum chamber drainage holes were hidden under the battery and servo; you couldn't even clear them by feel!). This resulted in a rotted through servo (water sucked into engine), engine computer underwater and almost drowned ECU in passenger footwell.
So when the new model came out (06?) and I realized that they had replaced the handbrake with an electric one (that failed in 25% of cases)that cost a bomb to fix and was the ultimate solution in search of a problem (plus, my son would be unable to learn to drive in it as you have to do your test in a car with a proper handbrake)...this was the moment when I lost my loyalty to the VW badge and went Japanese!


 
Posted : 07/09/2013 7:07 pm
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At least I took my own advice today.

Looking for a new car for Mrs b r and we went and test-drove the one she fancies. While away they put her car in the workshop for a quick check to get a p/x price. When we got back the Saleman asked whether we knew of anything wrong with it. Yep, it's making odd noises that we (and our local garage) can't trace.

Torque-converter is on its way out...

Ah.

So a deal was done and I reckon its cost us an extra £500 over a 'possible' deal we could've got if our p/x had been trouble-free (for year). Plus the MOT (£50 plus any fixes) and tax (£450!) were due next month - so quits really.

Current car bought new and run for 7 years and 110k, so as long as she keeps this as long it'll be fine

And there's a man who knows what makes sense in the world.

Sometimes it's easier to just dump the lemon on a dealer (your choice as to how honest you are) and get something else.


 
Posted : 07/09/2013 7:08 pm
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I actually love the car, which is partly why I want it to work. I don't really want to sell it. I am gonna phone the guy on Monday, tell him he broke my car so he is going to have to fix it.


 
Posted : 07/09/2013 7:16 pm
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Yes, but the love is not reciprocated; you are always going to get your feelings hurt...or your wallet anyway!


 
Posted : 07/09/2013 7:19 pm
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As I said, a numpty fitted wrong ecu does not a lemon make.


 
Posted : 07/09/2013 7:22 pm
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If you know its the wrong ECU why are you still messing about getting things done?

I'm lost now. When did you find this part out?


 
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Posted : 07/09/2013 7:30 pm
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Weeksy, it is not known if the ecu issue is causing the gearbox issue. Had to rule out fluid level as a potential cause.


 
Posted : 07/09/2013 11:44 pm
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I had a golf that did this to me, endless garages, opinions and flipping fault readers. Took it to a 2nd hand car place in a different county added £500 and drove away in a different car. The weight lifting from my shoulders as I drove home was palpable.

I saw it on the road again so I presume they fixed it.

How highly do you value your mental well being? Things like this get you down, don't give them space in your life if you can help it.


 
Posted : 08/09/2013 9:39 am
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No email response from the guy, so I called him. He was apparently in the process of replying to me.. hmm..

He insists that he was told the ECU was water damaged, and that the reception girl at Permoveo has made up this story about the ECU being fine. He claims to have a recording of the conversation, I've given him a week to find it. It's apparently on his Tab (I'm sure it was an iPad originally) but it has problems charging, see, so he might have a bit of trouble finding it...

My chin seems itchy this morning...


 
Posted : 10/09/2013 9:58 am
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update ?


 
Posted : 18/09/2013 3:04 pm
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This story has got more suspense that the Humber Bridge. Molgrips, WHAT IS GOING ON??????


 
Posted : 18/09/2013 3:35 pm
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Texted him today, will call later. He's definitely stalling, no question.

May go to Permoveo and ask if they have an invoice for the diagnostic fee he claims to have paid. Which, if true, would explain the difference in what he charged me and what they charged him.


 
Posted : 18/09/2013 3:37 pm
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explain it or not - pursue that line of offence in any court in the land you WILL lose .


 
Posted : 18/09/2013 3:57 pm
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Don't worry, it's not my line of offence. I'll be going for either 'reasonable competence' or deceit depending on what I can find out. If anything.


 
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Will any of that get your car humming along?

Put the fire out; then check who's holding the matches.


 
Posted : 18/09/2013 4:16 pm
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you don't seem to be moving things along much fella ?

1 week and you sent a text ? HAve you given up caring ?


 
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1 week and you sent a text ? HAve you given up caring ?

You do know he's been [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/gta-v-1/page/5 ]playing GTA V[/url] do you not?


 
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