If only you could replace beer with one of those vape things.
AF beer is pretty much vaping for alcies!
Wonder what the increase in cocaine sales was! 😆
Sadly I suspect those who would have got pissed on cheap cider now look to other ways of getting off their heads, now made relatively affordable in comparison.
I'm not sure that those who couldn't afford cider after the price rise turned to cocaine for their buzz.
Scots bought less alcohol in 2018 than any year since records began in the early 1990s, according to a new report.
Thats bought (I presume in Scotland) not drunk. Perhaps people are stocking up over the border, it's been suggest thats what'll happen in Wales if minimum pricing is brought in here.
Minimal alcohol price? Yeah, cos raising the price of tobacco worked well didn’t it. All those smokers who said “oh, this is silly, they’re so expensive now, I’ll just give up”
Unsure if you are being satirical, sarcastic or just unaware of what actually happened.
But yes, that’s exactly what happened.
Booze cruises to England? That seems unlikely - is the cheapo cider etc cheaper in England now? I honestly don't know!
Aye, yer average Jaikie can nip into his estate car in Shettleston and drive 90 miles doon the M74 for a cargo, nae borra!.
Ah, so there is an increase in drunk driving too?
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When I come to Glasgow to work at Let's Ride should I leave the tools at home and fill the van with Frosty Jacks cider instead?
He reckons the 50 bottles, which cost just over £100, will last him a couple of months.
Craig, 29, said: "It was more of a 'get it up ye' to be honest. They can't take our alcohol off us.
Somehow I doubt Craig is going to see his 40th birthday...
Mental that you can't buy more than 2 packs of paracetamol in one go, but......
I bet the supermarkets just south of the border sell more than your average number of bottles of Frosty Jack & White lightning.
If you think it's only the lower classes and their jakey juice that drink too much, have a look around you, the middles classes are rife with functioning alcoholics. Granted, a few pence on their chablis may not put all of them off, but we've pretty much tried everything else.
It was bad enough when Special Brew was reduced to 8% from 9% NOW 7.5%
Killjoys or WHAT!
the middles classes are rife with functioning alcoholics. Granted, a few pence on their chablis may not put all of them off, but we’ve pretty much tried everything else.
Why try anything, how about letting adults decide how much they want to drink. Tax alchol for sure we need the revenue, but that aside let the market decide the price.
Why try anything, how about letting adults decide how much they want to drink. Tax alchol for sure we need the revenue, but that aside let the market decide the price.
For almost all alcoholic drinks, the market does decide the price.
There’s a floor to the market though, since some folk make poor decisions and some people are using evidence based policy to try to support them.
I have no problem with this.
It's the only downside for me, that the extra isn't a direct tax as such, to help fund the effects alcohol has on NHS, Emergency services, anti social costs, foetal alcohol syndrome support etc....
It’s the only downside for me, that the extra isn’t a direct tax as such, to help fund the effects alcohol has on NHS, Emergency services, anti social costs, foetal alcohol syndrome support etc….
Not possible under the current devolution settlement.
I know, but still disappointing. Once this blond phurkwit gets power, we can get the hell out of dodge and do it properly.
Supermarkets too cheap, pubs too expensive.
When I walk to the train station on garbage collection day I'm amazed at how much booze, especially wine, people are knocking back at home. Middle-class area.
But then I go into the local pub and am asked to pay £4.30 for a pint of Fosters and wonder why I bother in the first place.
£4.30 for a pint of Fosters
Mate...
Not sure the pub prices are particularly high tbh.
When I was 17/18 it was around 1.20 a pint of cooking lager, in similar pubs now it's around 3 quid, some 2.50.
It's 27 years since I was 17.
Pub prices have shot up in the home counties. There also a big trend towards food, so they are happy to lose the regular drinkers and replace them with families and noisy kids.
Pretty sure this doesn't affect the home counties.... 😊
"Thread resurrection time as the effect of minimum pricing are being reported."
Alcohol deaths up.
" the figures show a rise in the number of alcohol-related deaths in Scotland between 2017 and 2018, from 1,120 to 1,136 (1.4%). "
As for the decrease in consumption? Consistent with ongoing trend before MUP.
"alcohol sales have fallen in nine of the last eleven years, including a 3.7% fall in 2011, a 4.2% fall in 2012, a 2.5% fall in 2013 and a 1.9% fall in 2016. There is nothing special or unusual about the 2.95% fall recorded in 2018."
https://velvetgloveironfist.blogspot.com/2019/06/alcohol-related-deaths-rose-in-scotland.html
21.5% drop in AR deaths in Glasgow since MA was introduced.
its very early to say there are positive or negative effects of it as policy. Alcohol related deaths (where they're not the result of misadventure- got drunk - fell out window) are the result of years and years of problem drinking. People dying now are at the end of that process - what minimum pricing policy would (hopefully) do is reduce the number of people starting on a damaging path. You'd see the effect, beneficial or otherwise, decades from now, but only if policy makers tough it out and ignore meaningless short term stats.
Absolutely, we won't really know for years, it was more in response to that blog posted above tbh.
it was more in response to that blog posted above tbh.
ahh - hadn't notice the time gap.
must have blacked out there.
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"21.5% drop in AR deaths in Glasgow since MA was introduced."
Just Cherrypicking data from one city.
"All he done is go to the data released in June, found the spreadsheet that shows the number of deaths by local authority area, and cherry-picked one where the number of deaths went down - against the national trend. " "If he had picked Aberdeen City, he could have announced that the number of alcohol-related deaths rose by 51 per cent 'after minimum pricing'. If he'd picked Perth and Kinross, he could have claimed that they rose by 76 per cent.
None of this would be untrue per se, but it would be lying by omission. If we want to know what happened to alcohol-related deaths in Scotland, all we need to do is look at the number of alcohol-related deaths in Scotland, which is right there on the same spreadsheet. It rose by 1.4 per cent."
https://velvetgloveironfist.blogspot.com/2019/09/minimum-pricing-media-fall-for-blatant.html