[Closed] Megan Stammers runs off with teacher

Just a bit sad for all concerned.

It was never going to end well for anyone. really.

I agree, he has thrown his career and marriage away, what a shame.

I bet it all feels so real too - especially for Megan. Remember when you were young?

I just hope they don't get panicked into doing anything silly or dangerous.

Oh, does that sound a bit cynical and disillusioned? Sorry. Maybe it IS the real thing.

Surely that should read...

"r.. r.. r..uns..off..w..w..ith..t..t..t... teacher." ?

I know a teacher who did this[ well sort of] - not to running off levels but they ended up married and have 3 kids and still together 25 years later. He left the school when she did and no one ever found out - he denies anything happened at school I am not fully convinced.

Still my main reaction is WTF were you thinking of mr 30 year old married professional - hard to see how it ends well and not fair on her family the worry that is being caused

so which Euro nations to flee to have 15yrs for the age of consent?

At no point on the drive to the Channel did he think "Maybe this isnt such a great idea"?

I don't care how many extra hours he puts in, he isn't getting a pay rise.

Graham S very sharp 😆

Do you think he'll get a pay rise for extra hours?

Have laws been broken?

Lol - yes when I heard Megan Stammers I thought "Oh, does she?"

Have laws been broken?

Stoner - Member

so which Euro nations to flee to have 15yrs for the age of consent?

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Have laws been broken?

Yes, he's abducted a minor at least. Her age doesn't allowed her consent to stand. Plus anything else which I really hope hasn't happened... 😯

so which Euro nations to flee to have 15yrs for the age of consent?

Nowhere in Europe

(EDIT) I was thinking of the age at which they could Marry in Europe)

Have laws been broken?

isnt there one about not shagging your pupils/patients/charges/inmates etc regardless of their age if you are in a responsible position?

At 15, 20 would be old, let alone 30! 😯

Funny how when you get to 30, 45 is not such an issue 😉

I just hope they don't get panicked into doing anything silly or dangerous.

That's what I hope too

Yep, any sexual relationship between a teacher and his/her pupil under the age of 18 is a criminal offence in the UK.

Have laws been broken?

As a minimum it is gross missconduct which will see him sacked and not allowed to teach again and I [i]think[/i] that any relationship of this nature between a teacher and pupil is also subject to additional sanctions that would not be the case were the adult not a teacher.

Kryton 57 "plus anything else" I imagine that ship has sailed also!

I just hope they don't get panicked into doing anything silly or dangerous.

Hopefully unduly pessimistically, I think it may already be over 🙁

so in theory, if he hands in his notice, and waits till they get to Spain, then he's in the clear?

I don't care how many extra hours he puts in, he isn't getting a pay rise.

*stands and applauds mcboo*

isnt there one about not shagging your pupils/patients/charges/inmates etc regardless of their age if you are in a responsible position?

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There is up here. It was brought in after a high profile case about 10 years ago when the music teacher at an aberdeen school set up home with a by-then pregnant 17yo pupil.And he hadn't broken the law becuase she was over the age of consent.
"Abuse of a postion of trust." Or something like that...not sure as I will never hear the words spoken to me in the back of a police car.

Stoner - I suspect there may be a caveat about both people beign under a certain age for the spain thing (but I don;t know).

How long til this topic is closed?

From that map: age of consent 20? Blimey, where's that??

And what would be the point of Fresher's Week?

This really seems odd to me. I can't think why anyone would run off with a 15yr old, teacher or no teacher. If the pair of them are 15 then hey..,, you could kind of understand but then they’d get no further than the ferry terminal I guess. But this blokes a (cough) responsible adult and she’s so clearly a minor.
I'm not waiting to hear the facts, the Mans an idiot pure and simple. No excuses on this one. I feel for her mind, she must be going through all sorts of mixed emotions and messages. And no doubt too frightened to come home, poor kid. He, well in true STW style should MTFU and contact the authorities now and do the honourable thing.

Having said all that my Sister had an affair with our Drama teacher and he got the sack there and then, my Sister ran away from home, took us 14mths to find her, turned out she went to That London and ended up in a Convent.

yes he's been an idiot, but some of the 15yr old girls I knew at school wouldn't take no for an answer.

[i]Yep, any sexual relationship between a teacher and his/her pupil under the age of 18 is a criminal offence in the UK. [/i]

You see, I don't understand this. The age of consent is the age of consent, why does the circumstances of the professional relationship between the parties matter?

wwaswas - wiki says only limit is under 16 by deceit.

IHN Because the teacher could have been grooming the pupil for years.

[i]IHN Because the teacher could have been grooming the pupil for years. [/i]

And a non-teacher could have been grooming a minor for years and waited until they turned 16 to take it a step further, but that's not illegal (not that it's right, obviously)

The point of the age of consent is that it's the age at which you are deemed to be capable of making and to be responsible for your own (sexual) actions. I don't think that the law should should say that you're capable in some situations and not in others.

One of my mates ended up married to his science teacher after he left school (long since divorced now though). She'd be in trouble these days.

Stoner - I suspect there may be a caveat about both people beign under a certain age for the spain thing (but I don;t know).

Apparently not, the caveat is that if one person is over 18, and the other under, the elder person cannot use deceit (or obviously force) to obtain consent. Not quite sure how that works out in practise, and either way outside of gypsy (and possibly Moroccan immigrant) communities it wouldn't be socially acceptable.

likewise at our school, it was the drama teacher IIRC.

still married as far as I know... also, fairly common knowledge at the time, even to me who was fairly out of the loop; things were just different I guess.

IHN - I think the idea is to remove undue influence. i.e. a kind of subtle bribery - "boff me and you get good grades", "boff me and I'll sort you out with the good meds", "boff me and I'll get you on light duties" etc etc.

Stoner you're such a charmer.

My money is on this: She is pregnant and he hasn;t been able to pursuade her to have an abortion.

[i]IHN - I think the idea is to remove undue influence. i.e. a kind of subtle bribery - "boff me and you get good grades", "boff me and I'll sort you out with the good meds", "boff me and I'll get you on light duties" etc etc[/i]

But, again, at 16 you're deemed as capable of making the decision as to whether to boff the person or not, or to report them to whomever for the undue influence that they are trying to exert.

and theres me thinking teachers had stopped doing any extra curricular activiites.

or just perhaps theyre doing a u tube remake of Clockwork a film with John Cleese as a head master who runs off with one of his pupils.

The age of consent is the age of consent, why does the circumstances of the professional relationship between the parties matter?

Duty of care innit. Teachers have it.

My wife's paternal grandmother ran off with French teacher at the age of 15. He was 26ish iirc. To France, in 1938, he returned to Scotland at the outbreak of WWII. Joined up, was captured at Tobruk, escaped PoW camps twice (recaptured obviously) and saw out the war in captivity. Returned home, they got married nd had a family. Both lived to their 90s... Make of that what you will...

physics teacher had an affair with a vulnerable young lady from our school, she was in the year below me and rumours started when she was 14, said teacher had a new wife who was preggers at the time, he used to teach us (and the 14yr old girl) kickboxing after school where she'd always help pack away after we had all left.

cos he was a fun teacher we never paid too much attention to the rumours, but 2 years after i left school i saw them, hand in hand, kissing, walking around obviously no longer hiding the relationship now she was 16.

apparently he left the school when she got to yr 11 (15, turning 16yrs old)

I think you are trolling IHN.

But, again, at 16 you're deemed as capable of making the decision as to whether to boff the person or not, or to report them to whomever for the undue influence that they are trying to exert.

Are you really saying you can't understand why it's different when it's a teacher pupil relationship?