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Did anyone else spot what this chap's job is?
B Ark passenger?
PR something or other
Hitchens and Dawkins et. Al. Are/were confronting mental illness/feebleness in general, a disease on society that is holding up the entire human race.
It's very different, almost polar opposite from knowingly insulting a random individual.
I'm quite glad he was arrested.. But at the same time, I wonder why police don't concentrate on more serious crime if they are so stretched and undereasorced.
I wonder why police don't concentrate on more serious crime if they are so stretched and undereasorced.
If only "serious crime" is investigated then lesser crimes are only technically illegal.
In this particular case the authority is wasting public money.
Bear in mind not all them in authority are that bright you know.
In this particular case the authority is wasting public money.
In your opinion. Others may have different opinions,
Bear in mind not all them in who complain about them in authority are that bright you know.
The tweeter may well fall into this category, amongst others......
bigjim - Member
How dare the police take action against innocent white people
this
knowingly insulting a random individual.
Do you think it should be a criminal offence to insult people, dogbreath?
jimw - Member
In your opinion. Others may have different opinions,
Ya, mine. I am just here to balance things up. 😛
Bear in mind not all them in who complain about them in authority are that bright you know.
Nobody is that bright but the ones that complained to authority are just dumber or stooopidly dumb.
The tweeter may well fall into this category, amongst others......
The way I read it the tweeter just said something after they rejected answering him.
Think about this ... just like ex-PM Gordan Brown brought made a passing comment about the "bigoted" woman, you know the passing comment when you got cheese off when someone refuses to comply with you or go against you ...
Yes, but that "something" he said may well have been quite aggressive or intimidating or, in this case, just plain stupid (in my opinion)- in that situation most people may not have wanted to answer. it was her prerogative.
We are clearly not going to agree
jimw - Member
Yes, but that "something" he said may well have been quite aggressive or intimidating or, in this case, just plain stupid (in my opinion)- in that situation most people may not have wanted to answer. it was her prerogative.We are clearly not going to agree
This is my understanding of the description.
mealy-mouthedadjective
afraid to speak frankly or straightforwardly.
You tell me that is a bad description. 😯
Your ex-PM Brown is much more aggressive towards that woman(public) by calling her bigoted.
Bigoted is a much more demeaning word to describe an ordinary public whether the person is educated or not. You will go ape-shite if someone call you bigot.
Remember ex-PM Brown was in position of power when he used that word whereas this person merely described the situation he encountered.
You lot are really losing the plot ... ya .. you lot or as my former colleague used to say ... you people. 🙄
edit: I think the person(s) who complained did not even understand the description or meaning and instantly took offense.
Now see this, this is a [i]proper[/i] waste of police time:
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-35899697 ]North Carolina man arrested after failing to return old video rental (BBC News)[/url]
It is being reported that charges have been withdrawn after CPS became involved. Seems sensible.
mefty - MemberIt is being reported that charges have been withdrawn after CPS became involved. Seems sensible.
Public money saved until the next event ... 😆
The Asian (I assume Muslim) shop keeper is Glasgow appears to have been the victim of a race hate murder. RIP and may the perpetrators spend a very long time in prison.
At least someone at the CPS told the MET to stop being dicks.
On Friday, the Metropolitan Police announced he had been charged with publishing or distributing written material which is threatening, abusive or insulting, likely or intended to stir up racial hatred.But hours later a police spokesman said Mr Doyle was "no longer charged with the offence", following a discussion with the Crown Prosecution Service.
Ah yes it is the MET being dicks, not the man who walked up to a women in the street and verbally abused her, then boasted about it on twitter 🙄
Stoner - Did you ever catch up with the fella's other Twitter content then?
Seems to me that you made your mind up when you read the headline.
Ah yes it is the MET being dicks, not the man who walked up to a women in the street and verbally abused her, then boasted about it on twitter
Being a dick is not a criminal offence (luckily for most forum posters).
As a society, we have to W/MTFU and stop trying to get people arrested for saying things that are insulting or offensive.
Ah yes it is the MET being dicks, not the man who walked up to a women in the street and verbally abused her, then boasted about it on twitter
Being a dick is not a criminal offence (luckily for most forum posters).
As a society, we have to W/MTFU and stop trying to get people arrested for saying things that are stupid, insulting or offensive. Idiocy and rudeness are not legitimate police matters (as, apparently, the CPS just had to remind the Met).
Assuming the incident really happened, at what point would you say being insulted should become a crime KB? Never?
What if this guy went up to the same woman day after day and kept talking about terrorism in a rude and aggressive way. It's really not as simple as 'saying offensive things shouldn't be a crime', however much you'd like it to be.
And chakaping +1
not the man who walked up to a women in the street and verbally abused he
He wasnt arrested for that. He was arrested for Tweeting about it (if it really happened or not)
No one is saying he hasnt been a dick. My complaint is that censorship/curtailment of freedom of speech (including the right to be a dick) is more serious.
This is more to do with Stoners libertarian tendencies, and his dislike of the state.
@Stoner yes but the issue is whether it was stirring race / religious hatred. I think its hard for the Police to ignore when its written down and distributed.
I see that 'Muslim' appears to have turned into a race rather than a religion again
Stoner ignoring the question, today.
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well this is a good thing. I didnt know it, not suprsingly, bit embarrassing that the MET didn't know it though!
A police spokesman said: "Following discussion with the Crown Prosecution Service, Mr Doyle is no longer charged with the offence and will not be appearing in court."Police may not make charging decisions on offences under Section 19 of the Public Order Act. There will be further consultation with the CPS."
http://news.sky.com/story/1667202/race-hate-charge-over-brussels-tweet-dropped
Stoner - Did you ever catch up with the fella's other Twitter content then?
No. Do I need to read more of his crap to come to the same conclusion that the police should not have attempted to charge him for his "Mealy mouthed" tweet?
The whole thing was ridiculous.
Is it illegal to be a small minded, racist bigot?
If anyone really thinks he should be prosecuted for that tweet you need to take a look at yourself.
The ridicule he received on Twitter was the correct response.
Would we being the same level of freedom o speech outrage if this had been offered at a different target? Say going up to a Jewish person and aggressively asking them to apologise for the actions of the Israeli government, then tweeting about it and using racially offensive terminology for Jews?
I doubt it.
racially offensive terminology
where did the dick use "racially offensive terminology"?
Would we being the same level of freedom o speech outrage if this had been offered at a different target? Say going up to a Jewish person and aggressively asking them to apologise for the actions of the Israeli government, then tweeting about it etc etc
Yes. HTH.
https://www.liberty-human-rights.org.uk/human-rights/free-speech-and-protest/speech-offences
In the tweets that you couldn't be bothered reading Stoner.
Not convinced KB, sorry.
Oh, I see, you're one of those loopy people that suspects Jews enjoy special privileges.
No and that's a pretty pathetic straw man. What I'm suggesting is that there is increased sympathy to this lovely man's outbursts because Muslims are seen as an acceptable target for hatred.
Not convinced grum, sorry.
Ok, but stop throwing your crappy straw man arguments around and maybe answer my question?
Assuming the incident really happened, at what point would you say being insulted should become a crime KB? Never?
I'm not even necessarily in favour of this guy being arrested (what with not having the full facts at my disposal and not being a police officer), I just find some of the outrage a little suspect.
ah, so kb is not allowed to project a personal bias against Jews on you grum, but that's like so completely not the same as you projecting anti-islamic bias on kb (or me)?
riiiiighttt.
It's not an outrage about what was said to whom, my "outrage" if you like to call it, is in the clumsy use of sledgehammer laws against dickish nut behaviour. The police have not been proportionate and along the way they touch on censorship and attacks on free speech.
That's not the same as saying dick's tweet should be protected or given any special treatment, but it is to say that 24hrs of custody and a s19 charge is not the proportionate response.
I'm talking about society in general stoner. I never claimed you were a racist, just that it is seen as a semi-acceptable position to 'ask Muslims to apologise for Islamic terrorism', in a way which wouldn't be deemed acceptable for other groups.
Claiming that I think Jews get special privileges is a ridiculous stretch from the analogy I made.
Have you bothered to read the other tweets yet? I just would have thought being informed about the thing you're [s]outraged[/s] expressing concern over might be a good idea.
I value freedom of expression regardless who gets upset or offended.
All you are doing is hunting for examples of things that YOU THINK ought to offend me more. Since I don't get offended you really arent on to a winner there.
Still not read those other tweets eh. 🙂
Maybe you or KB would like to answer the question of when freedom of speech does reach its limits, or should people just be allowed to say whatever they want? Should the kids at school have freedom of speech to verbally bully your kids on a daily basis, for example?
I obviously wasnt being clear, as you've gone off again to find another example of something YOU THINK ought to offend ME.
[u]I believe the freedom of expression is absolute.[/u]
There. That should clarify for you.
Still not read those other tweets eh
I have and if you think he should be arrested for them, then you are a bigger problem than he is.
He comes across as some kind of UKIP Alan Partridge. Sad, ignorant and attention seeking.
What harm could this dick on Twitter actually do?
I would much prefer if the Police and our legal system focused on some real issues.
This whole thing has just given him a huge platform for his views. He seems to be a pretty effective PR person after all.
I think I stand on the side of not arresting children at school for saying offensive things.