Good job you’re not a surgeon then
If your surgeon is working on you in a snowy car park in Liverpool then you've got bigger problems than COVID 🤣
Generally quite impressed by how many people continue to wear masks around here. The real odd ones are the oldies, I saw quite a few maskless in M&S before the 19th, obviously given up early. Given they're the most likely to die, did find it a bit odd - but maybe they think they're now immune.
Did you read what was written
Yes, you were suggesting that it is people who have been wearing masks to work all through the pandemic that are desperate to risk infecting people in shops. And that it is the middle classes who are creating the idea that to not wear masks in shops was “selfish”… and that they had no idea because they had been working from home. What about doctors? Do they think mask wearing in shops is still required while cases are high? That to not do so is selfish? Are many of them middle class? Have they been working in masks through the pandemic?
Do they think mask wearing in shops is still required while cases are high? That to not do so is selfish?
Who on this thread is the Dr?
But seeing as you mentioned it.....
The aforementioned horrible job in Liverpool was for the NHS. Mask wearing amongst clinical staff in their break rooms was a lot lower than the general public in the supermarket.
Which is a bad thing.
But does neetly illustrate my point that the group's of people who've been wearing masks 8-12 hours a day for the last year are also the ones that seem keenest to not wear them.
I've just spent a week with an Covid denier. He has been to some anti lockdown protests in London (from Edinburgh) and his wife was at them last week. I've worked with him for years and he has always been fine, I never knew he was bat shit crazy.
The vaccine isn't a vaccine, he can't tell us what it is, but he can tell us what it isn't. Apparently we're living in a fascist state as well.
I managed to tolerate his anti Vax chat but he came out with the road tax crap over breakfast one day which pushed me over the edge.
the ones that seem keenest to not wear them.
I guy I ride with is a GP. His daughter got married the other week and he was so proud of how little Covid precautions there were at the wedding.
Also, my next door neighbour works at the local hospital as a registrar and they've been partying all through the last 18 months like nothing was happening endless dinner parties all through lock down.
All down to the individual, the GP's son (who I also ride with) works in the Neurology dept and would have a hissy fit if 7 people turned up for a 6 person ride during lockdown, refused to go anywhere near the group till someone else left!
Where as I'm married to a doctor who's been wearing a mask and a face shield at work and continues to do so despite current rules... It's almost as if people are different.
Oh and while away on Freedom Day I noticed probably a 70:30 split of masks to no masks and by the end of the week it was probably 30:70 masks to no masks. That was in the Premier Inn the attached Brewers Fayre and whatever shops I popped into.
Working class manual worker here who has worked all throughout the pandemic wearing a mask for 6+ hours a day in the heat, in the rain and in the snow. At no time have they turned to mush
I’ll be continuing to wear a mask as I’m not a moronic ****
If I wear mine under my nose can I bitch about people wearing them AND people not wearing them?
I’m presuming these people aren’t going to be happy till they’re living in The Purge?
They'll never be happy because they're too morbidly thick to even know what they are really angry about.
Stupidity should never be humoured. Unfortunately our current crop of populist politicians have gone further and actively courted it.
If I wear mine under my nose can I bitch about people wearing them AND people not wearing them?
Ordinarily no. But in Brexit Britain you may well be able start a 'movement' or religion - wave a plastic Union Jack and you may even get elected to parliament.
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Are you on a postcount milestone bet or something?
Are you on a postcount milestone bet or something?
Nah.
Are you hanging around in case someone mentions riding more than six inches off the side of a bridleway around Ladybower?
These people just don’t know who to aim their actual anger at, or what they are annoyed with.
This is my take on a lot of protestors now.
This is my take on a lot of protestors now.
Social Meedya has convinced them they have something to say that is worth listening to. A thicko with an outlet for their misspelled dribblings is still a thicko.
This twitter thread is rather frightening...
Ha ha. I read the first couple of bits and thought 'David Icke' has missed the boat with this one. Then he pops up with his nutjob son in tow.
It's not their fault, though. Since village idiocy has ceased to be a viable career path they have been struggling for employment.
Almost everyone round here still wearing masks in shops etc.
The sad thing for me about these protests is that there are nuggets of truth in amongst the bs, we should be concerned about this government using covid to curtail civil liberties etc, and they are cynical and incompetent, but the protestors have then tied it in to all this other nonsense. The comments on that live stream are full of utterly deluded gibberish.
The sad thing for me about these protests is that there are nuggets of truth in amongst the bs, we should be concerned about this government using covid to curtail civil liberties etc, and they are cynical and incompetent, but the protestors have then tied it in to all this other nonsense. The comments on that live stream are full of utterly deluded gibberish.
It makes it very easy for the government and vested interests to tar everyone who raises a legitimate concern with the same brush.
Gaslighting is a very effective strategy if you have a large number of stooges.
And those bellends in Trafalgar Square will all vote Tory next time (again), because they'll tell them that Labour will let in millions of forriners.
I think it’s rather lazy & somewhat trite to casually label these protestors as solely RW. Let’s not forget Piers Corbin is also a rather rabid anti-vacation/anti-lockdown proponent. Conspiracy theories aren’t solely the province of the right. Idiocy has no political allegiance or boundaries.
I managed to tolerate his anti Vax chat but he came out with the road tax crap over breakfast one day which pushed me over the edge.
Well, there's lines that shouldn't be crossed, obviously.
And those bellends in Trafalgar Square will all vote Tory next time (again), because they’ll tell them that Labour will let in millions of forriners.
I doubt that many of the nutters in Trafalgar Square vote at all.
I think it’s rather lazy & somewhat trite to casually label these protestors as solely RW.
It's not solely right wing lots of alternative 'wellness' and anti-establishment types are into it too. The only political flag I saw was a massive trump one though.
Idiocy has no political allegiance or boundaries.
It is the indulgence of idiocy and the entitlement of idiots 'to be heard' that I can't get my head around.
In local cricket circles there was this old boy. He was a massive help at his club and he used to umpire youth cricket all over the county. He was a lovely old bloke. And thick as pig shit. He was known universally as 'Gold Top' (extra thick on top) - by his peers, by the kids, everyone. I don't think he ever twigged it. He was entirely happy just being an anonymous bloke getting on with doing stuff he could. He realised his own limitations and existed within them.
Nowadays every chump with an attitude thinks that their point of view is equal to that of scientists or even just those of us who can read a menu without moving our lips.
I think it’s rather lazy & somewhat trite to casually label these protestors as solely RW.
Perhaps, but the ‘enemy’ they have (overwhelmingly) identified (as far as there is one to unite them) is, broadly, an ‘Elite Leftist/Communist Globalist cabal
The common issues and enemies:
COVID-19? - Evil Chi-com globalist communist plot/scam/plan
Climate Change? - Left wing depopulation plot/evil globalist socialist plan
BLM - Marxist plot
Cancel culture? left/far-left
Vaccine? - Elite lefty Mainstream Media communist plot, Johnson’s Govt here are identified as ‘too far left’ left to be Conservatives and are regularly referred to as Communists, or even tools of ‘corporate communism’
Trans issues - Evil lefty anti-conservative tradition agenda
LGBT in general - same
George Soros - the big daddy baddy - puppetmaster of all the Left
Social distancing/lockdowns - Communists again. Want to take your freedumbs away to usher in Marxism/Communism
The Great Reset/WEF - Left/liberal globalist elite superbaddies
The Middle Class - Left/champagne ‘socialists’
The BBC - Marxist globalist far-left white-hating
Food supply - Corporate communism
Universities/Colleges - Marxists/brainwashers
Bill Gates - Evil leftist
MSM - liberal-left/Leftist/Marxist propaganda
Etc
If I missed out the lizards then you can guarantee that the lizards are still puppetmasters of The Left.
It’s pretty much all the ‘evil left’, I’m afraid. At least AFAICS, that is the most commonly-claimed link between all of the above so-called ‘enemies’ of these activists.
It’s all the evil left I’m afraid.
Yes. Because portraying it as the evil left absolves them from all responsibilities to others.
Which means it is a magnet for selfish thick bellends.
It is the indulgence of idiocy and the entitlement of idiots ‘to be heard’ that I can’t get my head around.
I couldn’t agree more!
It saddens me up how self righteous and judgemental you lot are, but I stand corrected, James Whale says anti-vaxxers are "prize prats". Carry on.
I find when I disagree with someone belittling their opinion works magnificently.
Yeah sorry, it's a low blow to liken people to James Whale.
Opinion being raised above all else is at the centre of the problem.
mask wearing sill close on 100% here. Was in a tourist area today. all businesses had big signs saying - this is Scotland wear a mask you numpties" ( I paraphrase a bit)
We had a gathering of 40+ people outdoors - socially distanced, no sharing, No hugging . Basic covid precations are still there for the sensible majority
I find when I disagree with someone belittling their opinion works magnificently.
Nope. When I disagree with someone on a matter where their opinion is valid and based on a well-constructed argument, I may still disagree, but I won't belittle them.
However, when they are ranting cretins then I will extend them all due courtesy. I.e. 'none'.
The gathering was today TJ? I’m going to go and get a dram now and raise a glass to both of you…
yes it was thank you but don't make this thread about me. sorry to have mentioned it
I'm in East Dorset and to be honest despite it being home to a strange combination of spray tanned roid rage drunk and Brexit loving retirees the mask wearing in public is pretty good to be honest.
I got told off on another thread for stereotyping when I mentioned that most builders I knew where Brexiteers.
@ p7eaven
Let me try ...
The common issues and enemies:
COVID-19? – Poor health & safety standard perhaps?
Climate Change? – Instead of not cutting down all the trees they blame it on fossil fuel consumption.
BLM – Yes, someone has brainwashed someone. Whose ancestors were not slave before? Even the mighty Genghis Khan was once a slave and the Chinese was still practicing until cultural revolution in the 50s. The list goes on.
Cancel culture? Yes, the winner takes all. You win you set the rules.
Vaccine? – Yes, it's convenient to blame the Conservative govt. No surprise there of the culprits.
Trans issues – A non issue that minority wants to impose on the majority. As usual the same culprits are making a meal of it.
LGBT in general – Another non-issue that is trying to impose.
George Soros – Most Muslim world don't like him. Fact. He is seen as an enemy.
Social distancing/lockdowns – this one is opened to all sides of the clowns i.e. left, right and centre. These people are special.
The Great Reset/WEF – Yes, a lot of left/liberal globalist elite really want this.
The Middle Class – Left/champagne ‘socialists’ - Yes, there are some truth in this.
The BBC – Marxist globalist far-left white-hating - Yes, they can't remain impartial and how much do they pay the some of the so called people working there?
Food supply – Corporate communism - Not sure about this but someone is making loads of money.
Universities/Colleges – Marxists/brainwashers - Actually, this is quite true as me mates know.
Bill Gates – Evil leftist - Not sure about him but he has loads of money.
MSM – liberal-left/Leftist/Marxist propaganda - They probably swing both sides.
Etc
Heres a song about one:
HMHB have a song for pretty much any given subject, it what makes them so wonderful!
We have informed consent and the freedom not to be vaccinated. With that freedom comes consequences. One of those is that others don’t want to mix with you. Sorry if that impacts your international travel plans, or trip to a nightclub. Freedom has a price.
Let me try (some more right-wing populist rhetoric)
Is that your opinion or the opinions of the speakers at yesterday’s rally in Trafalgar Square?
ie what are you ‘trying’?
For clarity - I listed the overwhelming narrative/views of the speakers and influencers/channels who are pushing this so-called ‘culture war’ taken as a whole.
Not my view.
If an anti vaxer stands on a rusty nail do they get a tetanus booster or are they just super careful with that sort of thing?
^^ They would consult their go to influencer on SM for advice.
At the risk of sounding like one of them it is a bit odd that this doesn’t seem to be recieving much
/any coverage on the BBC website. It looks like a fairly big event. Is there a deliberate policy not to cover loony conspiracy nut events?
If you're a leftie or leftie-adjacent, you find out that there are regularly demonstrations in London with hundreds or thousands of people and don't get airtime in the news. And tbh perhaps it's fair enough because they're highly ritualised and don't change anything - I am not sure they're actually news in a democraticish country.
Do not feed the troll.
