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There aren't really any far worse publications though Neil..
The mail provides fuel for hateful idiots in their millions.
Without the mail, we might stand a chance of nurturing a half sane electorate
I'm very glad STW won't link to The Daily Mail. Excellent work.
I don't always agree with singletracks editorial stance but on the mail they are spot on. YO can link to mail stories but STW do some magic trickery that means the mail get no revenue from click thru which seems reasonable to me. No censorship but no money into the mails coffers.
can't see the problem myself
What tjagain said.
I also agree with the stw/mail stance.
Just read Thursdays copy in the tea room at work.
I'm now full of hate and bitterness.
& re the fly tipping - something similar done in Herts recently.
Tipper truck blocked a quiet country road with waste.
grrr.
My aunt had a friend who had written on her gravestone "I never read the Daily Mail".
Sadly this is the predictable consequence of making council tips expensive to use. That plus fines and chances of being caught provide little deterrent
Councils get hit both ways here.....Given the enormity of the cuts from central government grants have had to prioritise and to increase revenue
So charging at Recycling centres for business use is one such method.
Who ever is flytipping is a business/ industrial scale so is reducing their costs aka making more money by fly tipping they will have added this charge on to any business transaction even if it is cash in hand.
See the case in Blackpool on the telly last night of flytipping.
jambalaya - Member
Sadly this is the predictable consequence of making council tips expensive to use.
That has absolutely nothing to do with charging to send certain materials to the tips as a) it's clearly not from a household, that's post sort waste and b) it's not the DIY waste that councils are entitled to charge for. And considering the financial pressure they're under it would be negligent for a council to not be considering charging for Non-Household Waste brought in by residents anyway.
It's an illegal waste processing operation or a lazy transport from making a quick buck. And the EA are struggling to enforce as their waste crime department has been hit by funding cuts under the Austerity drives. It'll only get worse as currently 2m tonnes (ish) of rdf is exported into the EU and the route for that is looking more complicated.
Piss boiling this is the load thats appeared on my route to work.DSC_0913 by chris, on Flickr
Is that on Leycett Lane?
Anyway.....
That flytipping is obviously organised. I suspect local skip company transfer station. Its clearly already been processed.
I'm very glad STW won't link to The Daily Mail. Excellent work
X lots
What's the stance on Jeremy Vine? 😆
There aren't really any far worse publications though Neil..The mail provides fuel for hateful idiots in their millions.
Without the mail, we might stand a chance of nurturing a half sane electorate
Quite. That horrible rag is probably the biggest problem facing British society, IMHO.
It's so reprehensible that even David Cameron tried to get the **** of an editor sacked.
Sadly this is the predictable consequence of making council tips expensive to use. That plus fines and chances of being caught provide little deterrent
What mrhoppy said: you're talking out of your fundament. This is processed waste that has nothing to do with the "council tip".
parkesie - Member
@BumperYes its Leycett lane.
Scumbags.
Took a divert down RedHall lane last night so never went past it. Bet the house owner that overlooks it is overjoyed!
Absolute scumbags.
May they burn in hell.
Piss boiling this is the load thats appeared on my route to work.
Last time I visited 3 Cliffs Bay on the Gower Peninsula the entire bay was filled with 1/4 mile of that stuff, and worse. Dumped into the ocean, and then re-dumped by the ocean. My piss boils constantly.
Its crazy i mean i see fly tipping regularly and the guys and girls from the council depot i work at do a great job of the thankless task of clearing it up but these incidents are just nuts.
Makes me...makes me......sooooo angry. The amount of rubbish everywhere in general these days is crazy. I blame it partly on our consumerist society and throwaway culture. However, kids need to be educated from a young age all the way through into their teens that it is not good civil behaviour to litter. Maybe then they won't grow into adults that think this sort of thing is OK. It's criminal and I really hope these oiks are apprehended and given the harshest penalties that not only teach them a lesson but compensate the council adequately to provide a thorough clean up job.
If the wind kicks up this stuff is going to spread over a very wide area and it'll be extremely difficult to locate. Drones may need to be deployed to assist as well as locals volunteering in the clean up. You can't blame this on the council and think they'll deal with it.
P.S. and what is it with the idiots in this thread ranting about links to the Mail and what not. Go start another thread. This one's for ranting about rubbish of a different variety.
Who keeps flytipping loads of daily mail click throughs, if you want to read that crap go to wh smith and read it, like all the weirdos do.
More of it, not far away from that above. Looks like same stuff too. Absolutely foul. it's gonna go everywhere with wind and rain.
http://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/video-who-has-dumped-all-this-waste-in-madeley/story-30104336-detail/story.html
Shit me its all over the place. If theyve identified where it originates it shouldnt be hard to find who collected it. A landfill and a incinerator are within a few miles away aswell.
This could be a complete coincidence but Stoke is hidden under a toxic cloud today, a plastics recycling plant is on fire.
[url= http://m.stokesentinel.co.uk/live-huge-fire-at-recycling-centre-in-stoke-on-trent/story-30112720-detail/story.html ]video [/url] 😯
Now someone is going around setting fire to the piles of dumped plastics that haven't been cleaned up yet.
I was just saying to the wife at the weekend, how fly tipping scum should be paraded through the local town on a Saturday afternoon with them having to drag their ill dumped rubbish behind them.
Name and shame.
yeah I saw that parksie, trying to get rid of the evidence? hopefully someone's got something out of the pile sufficient to get the ID of the perp. BUT knowing public law enforcement and councils they probably weren't quick enough.
This could be a complete coincidence but Stoke is hidden under a toxic cloud today, a plastics recycling plant is on fire.
Isn't this how most of them end up? Seems to me to be standard practice, stockpile the waste up and when you've run out of space all of a sudden there is a convenient fire. Far too many scumbags and criminals involved in the industry.
find out who is doing it and fine them to 400% of the cost of the clean up.
and not just the waggon driver, target the prick in the big house with clean hands.
Anthropocene indeed.
Seems this large scale commercial tipping is getting more common? My employer has just spent £15k clearing 50 tons of rubbish from this site as a goodwill gesture to the local community (it seems its not actually our land but they cut through our locks to gain access).
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jekkyl - Member
yeah I saw that parksie, trying to get rid of the evidence? hopefully someone's got something out of the pile sufficient to get the ID of the perp. BUT knowing public law enforcement and councils they probably weren't quick enough.
But the most you might be able to pin on anyone use tidied from information from the waste is failing to fully comply with their Duty of Care to ensure the waste was managed appropriately, and even then it's been processed so that would be difficult to justify. This isn't just someone tipping their spare waste this is organised waste crime (which is highly lucrative) or the dying act of a failing waste business, its unlikely the material contained incriminating material.
One load was found to contain alot of waste from a hospital including addressed items. Somewhere like that will have a record of who collected the waste and where it was going. From there it's follow the paper trail and see where it goes.
But it's not that simple to do, if you could limit it to an individual consignment it might be feasible but you can't so you're into a huge data audit process. Given the quantities involved I don't doubt the EA are doing but it's a monster job.ll
Is it post processed residual waste or is it combined reject/process loss from a comingand recyclate stream? For each stream it's entirely possible it's brokered and different loads are going to different locations and you don't have a definite timeframe as to when the load went out. And then from the initial point of receipt material might be being sent to multiple offtakes.
And the whole point of organised waste crime is to look legit so you will then be looking for something that doesn't tie up because they won't be coding offtake location to flytipped.
Why is this happening? I'm seeing flytipping a lot around my local area too. 🙁
Why is this happening? I'm seeing flytipping a lot around my local area too.
Well some is down to local recycling centres closing at certain times, making it awkward for people to get to them, some down to such places refusing to accept stuff because it's classed as commercial waste if taken in a van, some is just people being too sodding lazy and dumping it anywhere their car/van can get, and some, like this, I'm sure is opportunistic waste-processing companies dumping it to save money.
Boils my piss too.
I wonder if they could tag batches of waste somehow? Maybe spray it with that [url= http://www.smar****er.com/ ]Smart Water[/url] stuff or something?
Does seem that they need better auditing systems in place so local authorities can ensure that the contractors they give waste to actually dispose of it correctly.
Have to hold my hands up here. What looks like fly tipping was in fact the result of a short trip I took.
I had just had my car valeted, then the kids got in for a short trip to see some old friends. Two short hours later, after numerous bags of sweets and crisps, we stopped at the location in the first picture. Mungus minor jumped out to relieve himself and unfortunately the detritus you see, just happened to fall out of the back seat as he opened his door. Fortunately he closed the door quickly and most of the rubbish stayed in the car. Awfully sorry to have caused such a fuss
Have to hold my hands up here. What looks like fly tipping was in fact the result of a short trip I took.
I had just had my car valeted, then the kids got in for a short trip to see some old friends. Two short hours later, after numerous bags of sweets and crisps, we stopped at the location in the first picture. Mungus minor jumped out to relieve himself and unfortunately the detritus you see, just happened to fall out of the back seat as he opened his door. Fortunately he closed the door quickly and most of the rubbish stayed in the car. Awfully sorry to have caused such a fuss
Let's hope you find it so amusing when the next lot is dumped where you live.
EA are struggling to enforce as their waste crime department has been hit by funding cuts under the Austerity drives.
Amen to that, if Joe Public realised the amount of organised crime that is involved in waste disposal.
Be interested to hear if your local council have a) been informed b) done anything about it yet.
Sadly the quiet lanes of Hampshire often have builders crap and fridges etc. thrown in the hedgerows, nothing quite as bad as this yet though.
Local council are aware but for the large part the waste isn't on council land. Or its been torched.
Countzero, you're confusing being a tight, disorganised, dishonest **** that can't take responsibility for their own waste, expecting the public purse to wipe their arse for them and then squealing like a butt ****ed pig when somebody expects them to the right thing...And...The councils duties under the EPA