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I hate to harp on but consider 11/Elle's character arc in Stranger Things S2 - It follows the hero's journey so closely that it kicks you in the face.

Oh I agree about the hero's journey idea. Although 11 didn't really start in a place of comfort... That was unresolved from the end of S1..

So the place of comfort doesn't have to mean literal comfort, it can mean drudgery or mundanity. It just means they are in a familiar rut. A perfect or gross example would be James McAvoy's character in Wanted.

What I am wondering is how much can a TV show diverge from the standard themes and still be good? Or be a success? Can a Netflix show appeal to a smaller audience and still be a commercial success for the company?

In terms of deviation along themes it's completely free, but deviation from the structure is almost impossible. In the most basic terms, no one is interested in a story that has no ending/resolution.

Within that established structure though there's a lot of freedom - take Dexter for example, a serial killer as a lead character. Saying that, it's obviously not an easy task to pull off as it went badly off the rails - I never finished it. I'm sure Netflix would love to know the answer to your question too, but I think with the world wide online distribution model they can certainly cater to more unique tastes - it's like podcasting...back in the day you could never have a major weekly tv show about say engineering. But today you can create a podcast that only 0.1% of the online population are interested in, but that's still a big enough audience to sustain your podcast.

I would like to hear your opinion on the OA.

It's on my list - I fear it'll have to take a back seat to the Punisher though.


 
Posted : 19/11/2017 9:58 pm
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Just finished it. No spoilers but that got messy towards the end. Will chime back in when others have caught up.

6.5/10.

Still amazing you can see violence to make Ted Bundy blush, but you can’t show any titties.


 
Posted : 19/11/2017 11:28 pm
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Jamie, I’m guessing you’re referring to netflix version?
If so how does one watch without having netflix 😐


 
Posted : 19/11/2017 11:37 pm
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No spoilers but that got messy towards the end
aye upped it a notch! 😆


 
Posted : 19/11/2017 11:53 pm
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If so how does one watch without having netflix

Just pay for Netflix for a month? First month is free if you're a new customer.


 
Posted : 19/11/2017 11:54 pm
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Another marvel series I won't make it to the end of. predictable and gets more stupid with every episode....


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 8:48 pm
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If so how does one watch without having netflix

One doesn't. Netflix make the shows to encourage you to pay the £5.99/mo. That's their business model 🙂


 
Posted : 20/11/2017 8:50 pm
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I am 4 or 5 episodes into the Punisher. Seems ok if not stellar. My main gripe would be with the two Homeland Security agents (Madani & Stein). Complete non characters who seem like terrible actors, or at least terribly miscast actors. The mustang chase was particularly bad.

I'll give it a few more episodes.


 
Posted : 21/11/2017 11:43 am
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Fair enough molgrips! 🙂

Except the op post on netflix looks a terrible act.


 
Posted : 21/11/2017 2:01 pm
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Finished it last night. Thought it was good, Jon Benthal was brilliant, not enough Punishing going on and a few needless subplots. Part of me hoped Danny Rand would make an appearance just to say his “I’m the immortal Iron Fist, protector of Kun Lun and sworn enemy of the hand” I can’t get enough of it.


 
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Part of me hoped Danny Rand would make an appearance just to say his “I’m the immortal Iron Fist, protector of Kun Lun and sworn enemy of the hand” I can’t get enough of it.

It couldn't make it any worse, and it would be a genuine surprise, unlike the most of the series.


 
Posted : 21/11/2017 4:52 pm
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Well I thought it was superb. Up there with DD, surpassing JJ and LC imo. Cast, direction, dialogue were great, plot could have thickened a bit I suppose. I'm also watching Shooter and Designated Survivor at the same time and Punisher was much more engaging in all respects.


 
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If so how does one watch without having netflix

My brother buys me the DVDs when they come out, because I'm a caveman.


 
Posted : 21/11/2017 5:54 pm
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"What shall we do tonight honey?"
"How about we watch people being brutally murdered?"
"Ok, sounds good"


 
Posted : 30/11/2017 9:34 pm
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Pop corns on you then luv


 
Posted : 01/12/2017 8:22 pm
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I don't think I can be bothered completing the series. The scriptwriting just isn't of a high enough quality to sustain the story for so many episodes. It is just 60+% worthless filler, I just myself wishing the would get to the point quicker, in fact I have started skipping half the one to one conversations as they just don't add anything to the plot or characters.

This is the problem with many shows these days, they all think they are "the wire" but they just don't have the script, actors or ideas to pace a single story through an entire season. They need to break it up, have a few more "traditional" one off story lines to break up the overall ark.


 
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