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"[i]Here's me not supporting Labour's values at the last election https://t.co/mKL2X7u0So
— Mark Steel (@mrmarksteel) August 12, 2015[/i]"
[photo of him campaigning 2015]

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Posted : 13/08/2015 3:59 pm
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The Labour Party and the Greens fundamentally disagree on the issue of economic and industrial growth: the Greens think further growth is redundant if the benefits won't be more equitably shared, the labour movement thinks more growth and more equitable distribution is needed. every other policy stems from those core beliefs and the parties can't be reconciled on that issue.

Oh, right. I'm not familiar with the minutiae of what bit of the left is a better bit of the left than other bits of etc...

you would have known that if you'd read Homage to Catalonia. but your ignorance of the best English-language book^ about one of the most important events in 20th Century Europe (the Spanish civil war) is your loss, not anyone else's.

^ also, your apparent inability to use a search engine


 
Posted : 13/08/2015 4:01 pm
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Oh well, that's me told off, then.

Wasn't that set in the 1930's? I was hoping for something a bit more current, to be honest.

Unless it's all just the same old dusty arguments, of course. In which case, I don't much see the point.


 
Posted : 13/08/2015 4:26 pm
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Wasn't that set in the 1930's?

It's non-fiction.


 
Posted : 13/08/2015 4:31 pm
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you would have known that if you'd read Homage to Catalonia.

I'm waiting for the film.


 
Posted : 13/08/2015 4:33 pm
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You asked a question with regards to Stalinism and Trotskyism, both were established before the 1930s. If you weren't interested perhaps you shouldn't have asked the question.


 
Posted : 13/08/2015 4:36 pm
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steel is a 25 year member of SWP who campaigned for the greens at the last election.you would have to be insane to give him a vote in the most important leadership election the party is ever likely to have


 
Posted : 13/08/2015 5:02 pm
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who campaigned for the greens at the last election.

He didn't campaign for the Greens at the last election. He signed, along with others such as David Attenborough and Joanna Lumley, an open letter giving personal support to Caroline Lucas.

[url= http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/24/celebrities-sign-statement-support-caroline-lucas-not-green-party ]Celebrities sign statement of support for Caroline Lucas – but not the Greens[/url]

[b][i]Sir David Attenborough, Joanna Lumley, Lily Cole and Thom Yorke are among dozens of celebrities to have called for the re-election of the Green party’s Caroline Lucas, while avoiding any explicit endorsement of the party itself.

“Regardless of our own political allegiance, we believe that our democracy can only be strengthened by maintaining such a strong and inspirational presence in parliament.”[/i][/b]

And Mark Steel's 25 year membership of the SWP is irrelevant. I know at least one totally committed Blairite MP who was once a very active member of the SWP.

If the Labour Party is only interested in support from people who have always supported them then they will not win the next general election.


 
Posted : 13/08/2015 5:50 pm
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I'm waiting for the movie

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Posted : 14/08/2015 9:17 am
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Jeremy Hardy also barred from voting in leadership election
[url= http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/aug/21/jeremy-hardy-labour-rig-leadership-election-corbyn ]http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/aug/21/jeremy-hardy-labour-rig-leadership-election-corbyn[/url]


 
Posted : 21/08/2015 12:37 pm
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Meanwhile the SNP are happily accepting folk who previously supported other parties, and look what happened to them.

I think a lot of those folk would say something like 'I didn't leave Labour, Labour left me'. As a former Labour supporter, I find it very sad.


 
Posted : 21/08/2015 12:56 pm
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I think they should apply their rationale properly and at least exclude people who actually stood against Labour candidates in general elections:

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Posted : 21/08/2015 1:00 pm
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