[Closed] Manchester's Police doing what the Met are scared of doing!

I've bin out to my allotment! 🙂

Elfinsafety, I'm not sure I understand any of your posts

It's ok; other people do.

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grr. I've just been out on the streetz and tipped over my own wheelie bin. I'm so angry!!!

That's not a police beating!

Now, [b]thats[/b] a police beating!

'Soft lefties'. I do like politico speak. Good on your hard righties!! Sock it to 'em!! Enoch was right. Oswald forever!!! Bring back the BUF!! Hurrah for the Blackshirts!!!

Seeing as people wanna bring things back - nat serv etc what about bringing the Blitz back? That'll bring the southern shites back together, that'll give em a sense of community ..... in all honesty f*uck London it sux.

Sorry if I've offended anyone.

Sorry if I've offended anyone.

More confused than offended.

Yup. Compared to that they might as well have given him a Chinese burn. Maybe it was excessive but ill bet most people won't be complaining.

Good one the Manc police! The chavs need to learn some respect and fear of the police. When we were kids in the 70's we were terrified of the SPG who didn't hesitate to give out a hiding.

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And thats why bands came out with song titles like '**** The SPG'.......

i have tried to keep out of these riot threads............i know the kind of replies i would get from all the soft lefty shytes (teej, elf and others) would make me want to argue more.

so i only have a little bit to say.

well done to the manc's old bill.............that is the correct way to deal with thieving, spineless yobs

Amen.

hora - Member

Would you be as sympathetic and caring if youths smashed into your house and were dousing your car in petrol?

Eh, is it just me or do some people enormously miss the point? It's not about being "sympathetic or caring"- it's about saying the police should do their jobs. I couldn't give a rat's ass about the looters, but there's the rule of law, and then there's this. And if the police aren't going to respect the rule of law, then why should anyone else?

If I had youths smashing into my house, I'd want them arrested and put on trial. And if these guys did anything as serious as that and got let away then nobody wins.

Just to highlight how little can be gleaned from that footage, Cheshire, Merseyside, Humberside, West Yorkshire, Lancashire, Cumbria and North Wales ALL had officers on duty in Manchester last night...

Anyone care to identify where the officers were from?

And in case anyone misses my point.

Too many people, jumping to too many conclusions based on too little EVIDENCE is pointless

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'Soft lefties'. I do like politico speak. Good on your hard righties!! Sock it to 'em!! Enoch was right. Oswald forever!!! Bring back the BUF!! Hurrah for the Blackshirts!!!

Eh, where's the connection? What's racism got to do with it?

Rioting, thieving, selfish little shite's of ANY colour or creed should be treated EXACTLY the same!

Their behaviour being the issue, not their colour!

Now, one could comment that the [i]majority [/i]of looting and rioting in certain London districts does [i]appear[/i] to have been done by young black males, for [i]whatever[/i] reason - however that remains an elephant in the room for now, and clearly does not appear to have been an issue in Manchester!

Too many people, jumping to too many conclusions based on too little EVIDENCE is pointless

Evidence? Pfft! Go back to Russia, Fritz!

I blame Fur Q

ratswithwings
'Soft lefties'. I do like politico speak. Good on your hard righties!! Sock it to 'em!! Enoch was right. Oswald forever!!! Bring back the BUF!! Hurrah for the Blackshirts!!!

Seeing as people wanna bring things back - nat serv etc what about bringing the Blitz back? That'll bring the southern shites back together, that'll give em a sense of community ..... in all honesty f*uck London it sux.

The award for dumbest posting of the day goes to Ratswithwings ta da.

Sorry if I've offended anyone.

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I blame Fur Q

He was right though. You do have to kill people to get them to respect you.

Well I'm trying to play dumb so I can fit in with all of you.

Well I'm trying to play dumb so I can fit in with all of you.

Well, you are half way there...

Thanks! Just a little more to go and I'll be down there with you.

Thats just whats needed . Even cameron said he wanted a more robust police responce, and even warned parents to keep there kids off the streets. Well done more of the same tonight.

Just checked... Nope, nothing as daft as you in my posts...

v8ninety, is you name about a Landrover?

Terribly sorry old boy. Note taken. Can you stop stammering on your full stops though - somewhat annoying visually ... see what I mean? ...

Yes mate, same name as on another forum, saves me remembering which name for which site.

Edit especially for Ratswithwings...

Northwind - Member
If I had youths smashing into my house, I'd want them arrested and put on trial.

Two days time = start of Manchester Carnival. Hence the urgency of the Police to enable a clear decision on whether to cancel.

Excuse me if I don't cry over spilt milk when my partner and son will be alone in what could be a real explosive situation with many people congregating in one place.

Short sharp shock and tbh I'd rather they shoot the useless bags of skin than innocents suffer.

Sick of them.

I'm quite looking forward to Notting Hill Carnival in a couple of weeks.

hora - Member

Two days time = start of Manchester Carnival. Hence the urgency of the Police to enable a clear decision on whether to cancel.

Six days 'till the anniversary of the [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peterloo_Massacre ]Peterloo Massacre[/url] too.

Insert your own appropriate metaphor.

... Ta! ... though... you're calling me daft and you have to use the same name for two completely different msg boards... All you have to do is remember that one msg board is two wheels orientated and your 'other' msg board is for four wheels and use a name accordingly. Hence V8 for your Landrover msgboard and perhaps a bikey type name for this one? Simps really... I think I'm being insulted by someone dafter than me!! oops ... almost forget them...

This has got bugger all to do with Peterloo.

Harry_the_Spider - Member

This has got bugger all to do with Peterloo.

Dunno, made me quite sad TBH.

Wonder how many of last nights' looters have any comprehension of what happened at Peterloo, how fragile the right to legitimate protest is and how easily that right can be removed again?

Excuse me if I don't cry over spilt milk when my partner and son will be alone in what could be a real explosive situation with many people congregating in one place.

If you think it could be dangerous, why would you put yourself in that situation with a small child?

druidh - Member

So, when you dial 999 and get told that all of the officers are currently back at the station processing earlier arrests what would your response be? The first thing I'd want if someone was smashing into my house would be a policeman or two there to stop it. I'm not even starting to pretend that the situation is ideal but there's a finite resource to deal with this.

Property damage and theft are lower priorities- they were straight out of coppers for chasing looters but if you'd made that 999 call, you'd find a different response. You know as well as I do that there'd never be a time when all officers are unavailable for a serious call, not when most are chasing and processing looters.

If police turning vigilante is OK, there should be a process for that. If we think it's OK, then the officers need protection, they need to be able to act within their authority. Otherwise, we just need to accept that sometimes, you can't catch them all. But turning a blind eye to individual officers exceeding the law isn't a solution. Especially not for the officers.

Also, o'course, we need to be not slashing police budgets.

Rusty Spanner - Member

Wonder how many of last nights' looters have any comprehension of what happened at Peterloo, how fragile the right to legitimate protest is and how easily that right can be removed again?

How many would even care? All they were thinking about was where they could steal the next pair of trainers or electrical gadget.

There was no protesting.

The word "disrespect" should be allowed some rest, as it has been abused shamefully in recent days.

Mancunians of European descent speaking like some sort of mentally deficient, hybrid Kingston Town Yardie-LA gangsta<sic> should also be banned. Full Stop.

hora - Member

Short sharp shock and tbh I'd rather they shoot the useless bags of skin than innocents suffer.

Sick of them.

For once, I agree with the sentiment of what Hora says. I'm not generally in favour of martial law or death squads, but there are a lot of people in Manchester that the city would be far, far better off without. Who knows what the answer is??

Yes, there are social problems and I believe in trying to help people, but there is no excuse for destroying other people's property and livelihood because you feel like doing a bit of stealing and anarchy.

Peterloo was different, it wasn't a group of thieves ransacking the town centre. I've never been in favour of the army looking after civil disorder before, but I would have been cheering them on if the Paras had turned up en masse and battered the cr*p out of those scumbags trashing Manchester last night and London the night before. There may have been a few injuries, and possibly worse, but it would certainly have made an impression.

There's currently 100+ 'vigilantes' on the streets of Eltham that the Police are trying to convince to disperse. They're clearly Millwall fans as they've adapted their anthem & are chanting "No-one loots us, no-one loots us".

Whilst it's mildly amusing, the potential for massive civil unrest if they do come face to face with some scrotes is quite scary. And that's just one small corner of South East London.

a good hard kicking/beating is exactly what these little scrotes deserve - this country is far too PC, if the police force cant show a bit of brutality in times like this then who the hell can?!?!??!!? i love the fact how the PC good two shoes brigade jumps straight onto the 'no need for the beating' from the police etc....just like there is no need for these little shites to burning peoples houses, businesses etc...yet folk behind a keyboard on a shitty forum decide its wrong what the officers are doing, with no evidence or idea what has happened before the filming....yet again the majority of you half wits let want the 'law' to be taken too literally, ie if we cant do it then why can the police!?!?...in times where law has no place, ie now, the officers should be able to do all necessary to get these thugs off the streets, and by any means necessary, and if that means giving them a good hiding then they bloody deserve it....some of the respsonses on here are so laughable, you seem to think its not affecting you so you can sit on your perch on a forum telling everybody how 'incorrect' it is to give these absolute degenerates a beating....if i had a choice id gladly shoot the little shit bags...

over and out.

the potential for massive civil unrest if they do come face to face with some scrotes is quite scary.

Well, one can only hope that said scrotes take heed, and don't try and loot them 😉

I struggle with long sentences, but generally the problem with handing out violence without any kind of process is that lots of innocent people end up getting the crap beaten out of them. Plus, your opponents might just come back with more and you end up with a war going on, which doesn't help anyone. You should only enter a fight you think you can win.

Plus, if you get the police or army beating up the local scum, what do you think they'll think? They'll just hate authority even more, and end up with even more fire in their belly for next time.

So the simplistic 'beat em all up' approach has drawbacks from a purely practical point of view not just when it comes to moralising.

True, but that's a miilion miles from 2 days ago, with everyone just standing by.