What's the betting that when the person who assaulted the cyclist is finally uncovered, that it is someone like a police man?
I sincerely hope not as I like to believe our police force are little bit better at managing their anger than that nonce
I wouldn't want to be the owner of that car. Pretty well known amongst London cyclists now
Clear assault and I am sure the Police will do something about it. They are ordinary people like the rest of us and have their share of good and bad. Drawing attention to this ugly assault will help. Like many services they get stretched and cant and don't deliver everyones expectations.Its a shame these articles spend half the time knocking the Police rather than criticising these ugly people in our society who think they can get away with violent crimes like this. Im not in the police ! but I think we need some balance here!
What's the betting that when the person who assaulted the cyclist is finally uncovered, that it is someone like a police man?
🙄
Was in the Evening Standard today with decent photos of the thug.
What's the betting that when the person who assaulted the cyclist is finally uncovered, that it is someone like a police man?
they can hit better than that
No offence to the plods on here just a joke. I very much doubt it would they not have flashed the badge and arrested them ?
hhmmm ... imagine the cyclist pulled out Mr Smith & Wesson or Mr Glock or Mr Beretta and popped those blokes a few times and rode off normal. That would be a good laugh. 😆
Elfinsafety - MemberHe who insults and rides away lives to insult another day.
Not on 32/16 he doesn't.... 😆
At the end of the day, none of us know what enquiries the police have or haven't done. So they may be useless, or they may have done or be doing all that they can. All we can be certain of is that the driver is a cock.
Not on 32/16 he doesn't....
What a bastid you truly are. 🙁
Just to test a theory:
Get in someone else's car, find a police man, tickle him a lot, Maybe a hug too, drive off, brief the car owner with an implausible lie. And see what happens.
Let me know how you get on.
Seriously.... The half arsed approach of the police is more shocking than the attack.
could the assailant be an employee of News Corp and the cops at the time not aware that the Murdoch Invincibility Cape was losing it's powers?
Or maybe the investigating cop called NOTW to find out who owned the car, but there was no-one in at the time?
I thought copper, the one doing the restraining? I don't know why people think it's unbelievable that a policeman would do such a thing?
I generally don't bother with the police unless I have to. My respect totally died the day I went to attend an alarm at work and two policemen sped up to me and shouted at me to get on the floor, whist shouting armed police and hiding behind their cars open doors. After much are you joking comments and trying to explain, I did lay on the floor at which point they burst out laughing. That was it for me.
Andy - MemberElfinsafety - Member
He who insults and rides away lives to insult another day.
Not on 32/16 he doesn't....
Or a Brompton...
[url= http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/9139998.UPDATE__Man_arrested_over_cyclist_road_rage_attack/ ]A man has been arrested[/url]
Good update. Will follow with interest...
John Nicholls, 29, of Edwin Road, Dartford, a carpenter apparently.
Possibly....
J Nicholls Carpentry & Joinery
61, Havelock Rd
Gravesend
DA11 0JQ
07928 374735
Not the photographer one then?
http://www.jnphotography.co.uk/
Handed himself in apparently: http://road.cc/content/news/38853-breaking-bexley-video-attack-man-arrested
I just KNEW the met were on the case all along
and taking a car without consent; let's not forget that poor man who had his motor nickedJohn Nicholls of Dartford in Kent attended the police station accompanied by a solicitor, at which point he was arrested on suspicion of assault.
It'll be good to see how the car bit is dealt with. Would be nice to see a nice chunky fine or a community service order for the owner for hindering a police investigation (or whatever the legalese for that is).
[i]poor man who had his motor nicked[/i]
and then returned... (complete with cyclist BLOOD!)
Yeah either matey gets done for nicking a car or the car owner gets done for lying, which is it to be I wonder?
car owner offence is just as bad IMHO and obvious lie but yes will be interesting to see.
So assault, TWOC, no insurance stacking up a bit that is.
[b]Are all those who said it was a copper now willing to apologise for leaping to a ridiculous conclusion?[/b]
Are all those who said it was a copper now willing to apologise for leaping to a ridiculous conclusion?
I won't apologise for saying it could have been a copper, after all coppers kill, take drugs, drink and drive, take bribes etc etc.
[i] all coppers kill, take drugs, drink and drive, take bribes etc[/i]
All part of the service, sir.
yes no need to apologise for being wrong 🙄 You said you thought copper not you thought it [b]could[/b] be a copper BTW .there is a difference.
I suspect all professions do what you accuse the coppers of - politicians and journalists spring to mind - why did you not say it was one of them? Perhaps a chippy after all chippies kill, take drugs, drink and drive, take bribes etc. To see an assault and assume copper with no evidence is a bizarre leap and shows some serious bias .
Anyway you said something daft that is now know to be wrong. I also can see no reason why you should apologise for letting your prejudices cloud your judgement and leaping to conclusions:roll:
JY keep your powder dry. In time you will find that oldgits instincts are right. There is a "babylon" connection to this story.
oh tell me more then- whats the link?
I am not saying coppers are not corrupt or occasionally lie. I just cant go into this hating of them. I have been hit by them on protests for no reason but it does not mean ACAB is true.
Most coppers I have met have been OK tbh.
You'll see in time.
I have a mate who is a lawyer, specialising in "lifers". She funnily enough says this "Most murderers I have met have been Ok".
I'm not saying cops are as bad as murderers, I'm saying there is a logical flaw in Saying this :[i]Most coppers I have met have been OK tbh.[/i]
Because they might seem alright, but when you are not looking or anyone else isn't looking they could abuse their power. And most coppers I have got to know have admitted minor abuses of power to me. Lets face it they are not going to to casually brag about fitting people up or beating the crap out of people are they?
All I am saying is open your eyes/mind.
28% of reported crime in the uk leads to a conviction.
1.4% of cases reported to the ipcc result in action being taken against an officer (either disciplinary or more).
Does this mean that the police are a special breed of ultra law abiding people? I find it hard, nay impossible to believe the the police force does not represent a cross section of society. To me I am suspicious that ipcc is not as independent as it should be. I'm not looking for 28% but 1.4% is very very sniffy.
[i]I'm not saying cops are as bad as murderers[/i]
I should f&*in hope not!
You said you thought copper not you thought it could be a copper BTW .there is a difference.
It was the nicely ironed shirt.
He just looks like a copper to me, the restrainee? that is. My sisters in the Met and we go to their socail centre in watford. Bit shocking what you see.
All I am saying is open your eyes/mind.28% of reported crime in the uk leads to a conviction.
1.4% of cases reported to the ipcc result in action being taken against an officer (either disciplinary or more).
I don't know if it is or not, but I would suspect that a lot of the cases reported to the ipcc are the kind of "how dare you stop me, give me your badge number I'm going to make a complaint" type stuff.
Stumpy, maybe, but then a lot of normal reports re similar aren't they? Neighbours stitching each other. Anyway A complaint does not necc even go the IPCC, a member of the public complains to the relavent copshop.
I also expect there to be less crime in the cops than in the general public as the nature of the job will put off a huge number of crims from applying, and you can't apply if you are already a convicted crim, but then it might attract other types of crims.. Also you would hope the training/selection process will weed out the bad apples.
How much isn't reported? I never reported the two that pretended to be armed police for a laugh. And another that throttled me when I was a teenager.
So your a 17 year old punk, just been strangled and threatened to be thrown over a bridge by a copper, hardly going to walk into a station to report it are you. More likely you'll just have utter contempt for them for the rest of your life.
oldgit, that is a good point, I've been on the receiving end of it and I never reported it.
28% of reported crime in the uk leads to a conviction.1.4% of cases reported to the ipcc result in action being taken against an officer (either disciplinary or more).
comparing conviction rates to reporting an officer is not comparing like with like now is it. You are not even comparing people charged or questioned with conviction rates which would be more appropriate. you are comapring convictions with allegations whilst criticising my logic 😯
Furthermore I would hazard a guess that a number of lieing unscrupulous criminals make unfounded claims to aid their defence or because they are crims. They cannot really be relied in as a good witness so I would expect a lower success rate tbh.
Does this mean that the police are a special breed of ultra law abiding people? I find it hard, nay impossible to believe the the police force does not represent a cross section of society. To me I am suspicious that ipcc is not as independent as it should be. I'm not looking for 28% but 1.4% is very very sniffy.
You probably get a certain type in the police force perhaps more authoritarian and conforming. As they get sacked for breaking the law I would assume it is reasonable to assume they have fewer law breakers than society in general due to the implications of a conviction.
You may get more caring folk in nursing , more aggressive folk in the army etc. i would not necessarily expect any profession to match society exactly. I would also expect less lawlessness in say lawyers or solicitors for similar reasons.
The IPCC probably is a bit pro police though
The real point which was my point
The IPCC probably is a bit pro police though
Thanks
My point was your logic was flimsy and most of your points were bollox. As you made no attempt to defend your "logic" Thanks also.
I don't need to defend mine as your attmepts to refute it were pathetic. You haven't shown any grasp of logic yet, only lots of unfounded assumption. Go back and do it again.
The IPCC aren't "pro Police". Hence the name [u]Independent[/u] Police Complaints Commission. Read some of the reports on their website. The vast majority of complaints against the police are baseless, spurious, or relate to incivility. There is a significant difference between someone thinking the police are rude and someone being charged with a criminal offence.
It's the bloke in Horatio's link.
He was fined £400 plus £100 compensation to the cyclist.
I'm sure business will be booming for him now that he's gone viral 🙂
