Currently the lockdown procedure for an intruder on site, or a person perceived to be a threat is for someone to contact the maintenance team, who play a prearranged song, and everybody knows it and follows the lockdown procedure.
There are many flaws to this - it requires someone to have to call or contact maintenance, they have to make sure the song can be played, last time we tried a drill they couldn't find the disk, when they did it was scratched so badly it couldn't play.
We are a 20 year old building, with an ancient, but just about working fire alarm. After the threat is deemed safe, the alarm sounds and people then follow the standard evacuation procedures.
The setup for lockdowns is far from ideal, but I am stuck as to what we could do otherwise.
I have thought about there being a chromecast audio setup in which any member of staff could play the song from their pc, and sound across the tannoy system.
Given that my budget is negligible, rewiring for a second alarm system isn't feasible.
Any suggestions as an alternative way to carry out the lockdown procedure?
get somebody on the tannoy "welcome Mr Bond; we've been expecting you. Please proceed to the shark pool area"
or
"intruder detected. response team now active in this area. unauthorised visitors will be neutralised. all staff must arm themselves immediately"
I work on a big public sector site with a public right of way through it, and I'm not aware we have a lockdown procedure!
We have different procedures/alarms for fire or bomb alerts - basically one bell means get out for a fire, another means stay put for a bomb. I guess we could use the bomb alert for lockdown as well, as there is a security guard on the entrance to each building to secure the doors.
You might have something similar?
WTF is a lock down procedure?
Do you have an internal phone system with PABX that you can set certain handsets to allow broadcasts? Then just train a few people with said handsets to announce a certain message in the event of an intruder. This is what we use to announce the sandwich lady is outside etc...
Get your IT to setup a few users who can send messages to all logged on users, or even a batch file so they just have to click to send the message to all users.
if you have a working network then why not just add a network audio player of some sort and then put the control app on everyone's phone. You can also of course put links to it on all computers. The problem with this of course is the students 🙂
If you just wants to sound the fire alarm then maybe something like webrelay http://www.controlbyweb.com/webrelay/
Only one bell type for fire alarm. I do have a security team, I once saw them chase a feral cat away.
I have been trying to work out if a wireless alarm system would work with panic buttons, but, each corridor is 55m long, 3 sets of corridors, plus two buildings a further 100m away, a canteen, gym and swimming pool.
We have an insecure site just now, currently planning on fencing it all in this year.
A lot of procedures have been put in place such as this one, but not always though through, current procedure predates me by 6 years or so.
Get your IT to setup a few users who can send messages to all logged on users, or even a batch file so they just have to click to send the message to all users.
#wall "you're all going to die"
FuzzyWuzzy's idea is good
This is what we use to announce the sandwich lady is outside etc...
She just sends me a text when she arrives....
WTF is a lock down procedure?
A procedure put in place to safeguard staff, students and other employees if an intruder, or something of danger to their well being is on site or in the building.
Hear the song, drop the door blinds, lock the door, get up against the wall one the same side of the door and wait for the all clear
WTF is a lock down procedure?
Lockdown is your no 1 choice in ligament reconstruction. Certainly my no 1 choice [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/separated-shoulder-grade-34-surgery ]at the moment[/url].
Thought you'd done the same, quirrel.
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When I worked in Stadia we had a protocol for emergencies so if you are ever at a footie/rugby match or large event day like Grand National etc and you hear over the tannoy "Will Constable ERIS please go to Section D*" there is some shit going down in Section D! ERIS is an acronym that I can't remember.
On another note in the Tesco in Stirling the Security guy is called "William Wallace" even if it's a security girl!
Blimey, as far as I know ours consists of run around screaming when you hear gunfire.
Lockdown is your no 1 choice in ligament reconstruction.
Do you really need music over the PA for a shoulder reconstruction?
Blimey, as far as I know ours consists of run around screaming when you hear gunfire.
What you need is...
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Most places use a different ring pattern on the alarm but loads of good suggestions above utilising the existing phone system or network system.
A silent system of lights is also a possibility so if it flashes something is going down and not as obvious as a loud alarm.
[i]Do you really need music over the PA for a shoulder reconstruction? [/i]
I expect you thought that was humerous
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Can anybody guess the song that was chosen? Long before my time.
I shot the sheriff?
I will get the engineers to see if there is a way to put some sort of three short blasts on the fire bell - certainly better than trying to find a CD to play.
[quote=Quirrel ]Can anybody guess the song that was chosen? Long before my time.
Panic by the SMiths?
I shot the sheriff?
9 years too young
What's wrong with just using the tannoy:
"Code Brown! Code Brown!"
As illustrated here by a young Guy Martin:
ERIS is an acronym that I can't remember.
[url= http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/systems/eris.htm ]Exoatmospheric Re-entry Vehicle Interceptor System?[/url]
Panic by the SMiths?
23 years too young
Help! - The Beatles?
Technically it is some speakers attached to amp around the whole site. I don't think it has a microphone anywhere."Code Brown! Code Brown!"
My Ding-a-Ling by Chuck Berry?
Help! - The Beatles?
you win
Replacing the disc with a prearranged phrase would seem to be the obvious choice? Staff calls for non-existent staff, perhaps? Last place I worked used "operation sandman" for a fire, and variations for other threats.
What's wrong with just using the tannoy:
Old place, we just used to announce over the tannoy - lock down, lock down, lock down. easy as that.
But it had an easily accessbile microphone and tannoy system
I will get the engineers to see if there is a way to put some sort of three short blasts on the fire bell - certainly better than trying to find a CD to play.
The webrelay will also do pulsed output if you connected it across the normal Fire alway switch
When I worked in Safeway as teenager we would go on the shop tannoy and instruct our mates to go to "the Egg Section" if we spotted a particularly attractive lady person in the store.
If it has an amp and you can play disks, surely you can put a mic on it? Actually, if you can do that, put a mixer and some decks on the input and you'e got your own really small pirate radio station.
Now that _would_ be cool.
Lockdown procedure.
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Lockdown procedure.
Brilliant!
Moderately on topic a club I used to go to used to play " I spy for the FBI" whenever the plain clothes police were spotted on the dance floor or in the toilets.
quirrel where on earth do you work (overseas? / type of place) that you have such a procedure?
Obviously without naming the establishment specifically.
I can offer no technical advice just nosey/ curious
Batley would be my (saddened) guess !!
