My oh my
https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1575874214170484737?t=pmoKN6VuI5noNUxkaQ1PRQ&s=19
wonder what crazy policy she'll go for as a distraction ?
wonder what crazy policy she’ll go for as a distraction ?
Don’t worry, right wing bint says it’s all ok
https://twitter.com/bloomberguk/status/1575816600850206721?s=21&t=JkF9lYHclDbHDlmoS49Q0g
Don’t worry, right wing bint says it’s all ok
She's just as bat shit crazy as the rest of them
Don't make excuses. They are all perfectly sane.
Yaaay, we're now to the right of Jair Bolsonaro
https://twitter.com/mikegalsworthy/status/1575754981449207809?t=rFGy9TqVMMQ_w5SQihVoYA&s=19
Don’t make excuses. They are all perfectly sane.
Depends if you consider psycopaths insane. A matter of much debate. Kwerteng appears to be one
I still think she could be a plant - installed to bring down the Tories from inside.
Let's hope it's quick.
for someone earning £30k with a 200k/20year mortgage
Pardon?
Although I suppose it could be through change in circumstances.
Speeder
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I still think she could be a plant – installed to bring down the Tories from inside
Like an overdose of Exlax?
Get ready for another big dose of “levelling up” ( ha ! )
https://twitter.com/michaelsavage/status/1575957703964250113?s=21
https://twitter.com/NickCohen4/status/1575909226903646208?t=sEJQgTLewDVX0f-e7UoJNg&s=19
Why am I not surprised that she read a book on economics and didn't understand anything in it...?!
Get ready for another big dose of “levelling up” ( ha ! )
I’m living on benefits due to spms and unable to walk but if they try and pull this then I’ll be perfectly happy to do something appropriate to ensure my voice is heard
somafunk
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Get ready for another big dose of “levelling up” ( ha ! )I’m living on benefits due to spms and unable to walk but if they try and pull this then I’ll be perfectly happy to do something appropriate to ensure my voice is heard
I honestly don't think that the country will put up with another wasted decade of austerity. She is definitely going to try it though, 100%. Knowing that, in part, it is to fund the wealthy will likely send a good many over the edge.
Its a reasonable bet that this government will end in mass civil unrest that will make the poll tax riots seems like a garden party.
No, Tory MPs will move to replace Truss before it gets to the point of civil unrest. There is no real commitment to Truss among the majority of Tory MPs. Only 50 had her as their first choice out of a total of 357 Tory MPs.
Agreed.
Its a reasonable bet that this government will end in mass civil unrest that will make the poll tax riots seems like a garden party.
Theresa May's ended with hundreds of thousands in Manchester Birmingham and London, remember what they were protesting? Much changed?
I don't think they will replace her but neither do i see mass civil unresr.
Even in the article Ernie lonked to there were tory mps mps saying they couldn't do so because of how chaotic it would look and where is a sensible candidate coming from?
Edit
I think if they do try to replace her the hard right erg looons will threaten to bote any new candidate down in the HOC and the rest will back off as too many will lose their seats.
Truss is the pinnacle of 2 decades work by the hard right to get their puppet in place and they will not let her be replaced. The will collapse the government first.
I’m living on benefits due to spms and unable to walk but if they try and pull this then I’ll be perfectly happy to do something appropriate to ensure my voice is heard
@somafunk I really hope that statement isn't as dark as I'm taking it to be. If it is please speak to somebody. Easy to say, I know, but you'd be letting those bastards rob you of the one thing they can't just take.
I think Liz should get an award
For the shortest term of prime minister in uk history.
Eventually the dumb electorate will realise the noise is all lies. The torys are not your friends, they pander to the richest whilst doimg their utmost to keep everyone else in a just about ok situation.
Best commentary on Liz Truss so far comes from...... *Checks notes..... Richard Bacon??
https://twitter.com/CentralBylines/status/1575619784976146433?s=20&t=MmDJPpcNYku2mjkzzm4UFQ
Truss is the pinnacle of 2 decades work by the hard right to get their puppet in place
And it lasted 10 minutes before it turned into a bin fire. I winder if there's been any over 1st world country where this sort of extreme economic theory has been imposed?
Why am I not surprised that she read a book on economics and didn’t understand anything in it…?!
Thanks for that link. Despite it being in the Spectator… it’s really worth everyone reading.
Best commentary on Liz Truss so far comes from…… *Checks notes….. Richard Bacon??
Often surprisingly good at this sort of thing.
Mrs Zips mum had a fall in 2014. Ambulance turned up ,they put her in the ambulance and took her to hospital
More falls this year...the ambulance never turns up.
She is a lifelong Tory voter, well she was.
Sorry to hear that about your mum Zippy. Conservatives I know still blame Covid and immigrants for the NHS struggling though. First part has a ring of truth about it… but then who’s been in government since we’ve known about Covid…? It’s not new anymore, and it’s on their watch that all the shrugging about understaffing and burnt out workers has been going on (even more) since then. And as for immigrants… often fall out with my mum about that… she’d never vote Tory, but still falls for that line… sigh… newspapers.
So it turns out that according to Liz Truss Winston Churchill's housing policy when he was PM were just like those of a communist dictator.
https://todayuknews.com/economy/the-housing-crisis-sits-at-the-centre-of-britains-ills/
In October 1950 at the Conservative party annual conference, Winston Churchill declared to a packed hall of delegates: “You’ve demanded that the target we should put in our programme is 300,000 houses a year. I accept it.” The rapturous applause that followed left him unable to finish his thought.......
.......And yet the idea of housing targets, such as those embraced by Churchill, was recently dismissed by Liz Truss, the new prime minister as “Stalinist”.
Liz Truss ...... so right-wing that she thinks Conservative Party policies in 1950 were practically communist.
We know why she dismisses having housing targets…
https://twitter.com/bbcpolitics/status/1197507130573512704?s=21
I think the ‘Levelling Up’ Secretary may need to change his job title if he thinks his job description is to inflict yet more austerity on northern constituencies that have already had their public services and council budgets absolutely decimated, while wealthier leafier southern constituencies have got off relatively lightly
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1576089975900307456?s=21&t=4Uuh3040eyJHb0V8gVVQbQ
I’m sure this will go down great in the Red Wall areas with tiny Tory majorities
I’m starting to think that Truss could actually be a Labour plant, in the same way that the Tories got their sleeper cell Jeremy Corbyn in to make Labour unelectable
the Tories got their sleeper cell Jeremy Corbyn in to make Labour unelectable
FFS do you have to drag this same shit onto every political thread at every possible opportunity?
Try to deal with your bizarre obsession with Jeremy Corbyn 💡
We’ve had this discussion before comrade. It’s never me who brings him up
On this occasion it is though, because it’s looking like she is actually the Tory Jeremy Corbyn equivalent.
So completely clueless, possessing not a single shred of political instinct and so electorally repellent to most voters that the opposition simply can’t believe their luck.
Let’s be honest, they must be watching this utter shitshow in Labour central office in absolute disbelief. All their birthdays and Christmases all at once, just like Magic Grandad was for the Tory’s
I bet they can’t bloody wait for hers and Kwasi’s setpiece speeches at conference next week. The two of them will probably proudly announce their plans to abolish the NHS while casually lobbing kittens into a wood chipping machine on stage
On whether Starmer is perusing wallpaper samples…
Can the Tories really ride this out for another two years…sorry, can’t remember exactly when the 5 years are up. I mean, I know with their majority, they technically can, but as it looks like Truss is, if not already toast, then she’s about to be, does the electorate have to take yet another PM based on the PP’s machinations and then the membership? Just asking for what people think really…
Matthew Paris, that famous socialist, wrote an article in that left-wing mouthpiece The Times this morning, which started with the statement ‘She’s finished!’
It then went on to describe how Tory MP’s, pretty much none of whom wanted her as leader in the first place (ahem… sound familiar?) are coming up with any old excuse to avoid attending next weeks conference.
They don’t want anything to do with the present car crash and are terrified of being ambushed by news crews asking them to defend her on camera. Something pretty much everyone apart from John Redwood has managed to avoid doing so far.
To be fair, my MP (Mark Jenkinson) is actually busy tweeting all manner of tory bullshit. I suppose he's loyal if nothing else.
He'll be looking forward to the conference. At this rate the ****er will be in the cabinet (although Truss hasn't actually had to stoop that low yet).
My own 2019 intake Tory MP (James Daly) - a full on right-wing, Brexiteer headbanger - has also been very publicly supportive
Given that he has the smallest majority in the country (100 votes) I presume he’s angling for briefly enjoying a cabinet position before he’s sent packing in 2 years time
Not a peep from my MP Alastair Jack but that’s no surprise, I doubt he’ll make much of an appearance or say anything against Truss/kwasi over the Tory conference as he’s every bit as shit as they are.
Last time he made an appearance in town he was chased from the harbour by the fishermen throwing heavy shackles from the queenie dredges at him as he tried to do a photo opportunity/puff piece regarding fishing opportunities since Brexit. This time they’ve all said if he dares to ever show up again he’s going into the harbour along with his entourage.
It’s never me who brings him up
It always seems to be you who brings him up. You are clearly obsessed with Jeremy Corbyn.
You say "let's be honest" but you are totally disingenuous about the support Labour received under Jeremy Corbyn.
There were two general elections under Corbyn's leadership and even in the one in which Labour had the lower share of the vote, 2019, Labour still managed to get a higher share of the vote than under both Ed Miliband and Gordon Brown.
In 2019 Labour's share of the vote was 32.1%, in 2015 under Ed Miliband Labour received 30.4%, and in 2010 under Gordon Brown 29%.
In terms of total number of votes Labour also did better under Jeremy Corbyn than under either Ed Miliband or Gordon Brown.
In 2019 Labour received 10.27 million votes, in 2015 under Ed Miliband Labour received 9.35 million votes, and in 2010 under Gordon Brown 8.6 million votes.
So more people voted Labour when Corbyn was leader than when either Miliband or Brown were leaders. The fact that the Tories have a huge majority is primarily because of the mechanics of the first past the post system, plus that neither Ed Miliband nor Gordon Brown had to contend with the collapse of the LibDem vote which overnight halved.
I was one of those voters who didn’t vote Labour under Brown and Miliband, but did in 2017 & 2019. Not relevant… but I thought I’d might as well join in with this derailment rather than fight against it… seems increasingly pointless to try.
I get that people have got used to low interest rates and have planned with only this in mind but to increase as it has is an absolute wrecking ball, and why the BoE increase at the minimum to give people time to adjust.
I've been listening to all this "folk should've realised rates could increase" this week and loads of old folk (because they couldn't be young, it was a long time ago) talking about how high the interest rates were when they bought - and they could afford it bollox.
Ordinary folk don't (and can't) play the market, we just buy what we can afford - and what they can afford is based on what they earn and what someone will lend us. No different currently when my kids have bought as when I bought first in 1985 or when my folks first did in 1969.
Interest rates are what they are, and yes you've to make assumptions, but if you make an assumption that your monthly mortgage could double - near enough none of us would be buying first time around.
And when I first bought in 1985, my mortgage was half my take-home - if it'd doubled, the keys would've gone back - no choice.
The Tories have ****ed up again, and like every other time they've ****ed up, they want to blame someone else.
Can the Tories really ride this out for another two years…sorry, can’t remember exactly when the 5 years are up. I mean, I know with their majority, they technically can, but as it looks like Truss is, if not already toast, then she’s about to be, does the electorate have to take yet another PM based on the PP’s machinations and then the membership? Just asking for what people think really…
I think they will. I belive if the sane few left try to replace her truss and her supporters will challenge them to a vote of confidence and they will also threaten to vote down in a vote of confidence any replacement.
Faced with the loss of their seats now or in two years those that want rid of truss will buckle and accept her for the two years
The hard right have worked for 20+ years for this and getting a pliant hard right puppet in no 10 is the final act of a slow motion coup. They will not let go easily when they have almost achieved their goal. I do not believe that more than a handful of tory mps will put the country before their own self interest
