[Closed] Limewire - buggered by lawmakers

People still use(d) limewire? Jesus.

[cough]bittorrent[/cough]

try Iomio its legal - not free but around 1.40 for an album!

Is Iomio like the old AllofMP3?

Soulseek for singles or really hard to find stuff otherwise torrents

Limewire was rubbish and only used by the technologically inept anyhow.

Plus of course, copyright theft is bad.

it was quick and effective and copyright theft is indeed bad

but i found a lot of quirky and rare recordings there that just weren't commercially available

Is Iomio like the old AllofMP3?

AllofMP3 was based in Russia where there copyright laws are somewhat slacker than ours! Eventually it was shut down by record company lawyers.

The basic premise was that although it was 'legal' using a loophole in the Russian law - none or very little of the money taken actually got back to the artists or record companies.

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also use peerblock for safety. And talk tlak as they don't give up customers detaisl to lawyer..

And talk tlak as they don't give up customers detaisl to lawyer..

That'd be self-enforcing if the lawyers had to get the information from technical support.

I'm astonished that some of you guys think it's OK to steal someone else's work. How old are you, 16?!

im astonished that anyone would pay a record company 15 quid for an album

AllofMP3 was based in Russia where there copyright laws are somewhat slacker than ours! Eventually it was shut down by record company lawyers.

Yes same kinda thing eastern Europe definitely

im astonished that anyone would pay a record company 15 quid for an album

Because the record company somehow crafts the music without the talent of any musicians, who (generally) deserve to be paid for their work?

Do you work, kimbers (and everyone else touting copyright theft as acceptable)? If you do, do you consider it good value for money? Assuming your work is produced (not like a service) how would you feel if someone wholesale copied your work, and distributed it to potential customers/clients so that you got nothing? I guess you wouldn't mind tho!

Sometimes I take more than one IKEA pencil too

and I once refilled my Coke in KFC without checking if there was free refills

It was bollocks anyway and the viral equivalent of bareback sex in a Nigerian knocking shop.

Join emusic.

Somebody left 20p in their locker at the gym and I took it.

iDave & iain1775 describing what sort of music they like.

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kimbers - Member

im astonished that anyone would pay a record company 15 quid for an album
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Me too, but that's what I used to do in the early/mid 90's and £15 was equivalent to 6 hours pay (before stoppages) to me then.

Most chart/new release albums are £8-10 now and you can get pretty much whatever back catalogue you like from Amazon, typically for £5 or so (with free postage).

Cougar - Member

And talk talk as they don't give up customers details to lawyer..

That'd be self-enforcing if the lawyers had to get the information from technical support.

Very good. I spat my coffee

There are many ways to get what you want

I want to be outraged by people sharing music online and not paying a royalty to record companies... But I can't.

£15 for a CD album that cost only £1 to make back in the day has seen to that.

I too struggle to get excited about it

Mind you, there's nothing I'd want, they stopped making good music about 20 years ago 🙂

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And talk tlak as they don't give up customers detaisl to lawyer..

A $3/month VPN account for a Dutch server pretty much sorts these things

£15 for an album, i'd search a little harder. Try Amazon

Funny there's enough bleating when peoples bikes get nicked but thats different isn't it.

A bike being nicked deprives the original owner use of the bike - so, yeah it is different

Funny there's enough bleating when peoples bikes get nicked but thats different isn't it.

It is a bit, yeah

It'd be a bit like someone nicking your bike, copying it & then putting your back before you noticed

For me the thing that killed limewire was the additional things you get with the download that sit quietly on the computer like and internet version of Chlamydia
My client of choice was winmx – although I’ve not download anything for sometime now as the risks were beginning to out way the benefit
While I understand and empathise with new artists and idea of their financial struggles I do think that in the main the culture within the ‘industry’ is morally corrupt and they happily shaft both the artist and the end user – that said when you observe the lifestyles of many ‘top recording artist’ they appear to be to be less then altruistic (obvious exception excluded naturally)
Despite the above egalitarian outpouring the recording industry operates in a free market economy – thus I pay the price I think is fair - nowt

Somebody left 20p in their locker at the gym and I took it.

It's people like you that have brought this once great nation to it's knees. 🙁

Forgetting the legality/ethics debate for a moment; Limewire allowed me to enjoy music that I otherwise might not have even known existed. And I've gone out and bought CDs as a result (far better to enjoy the proper uncompressed version than some crappy badly encoded 96kbps MP3).

As for illegal file sharing 'killing' music; it's not. If anything, it's actually helped to promote the music far more than the commercial efforts did. Record companies spend billions promoting shite banal pop with associated crappy merchandise, whilst some real talent doesn't get the break it deserves.

Most current pop music is shite that appeals to the lowest common denominator; McDonalds for the ears.

I personally would be quite happy to see Simon Cowell bankrupted as a result of illegal file sharing. Sadly, I can't see this happening unfortunately. 🙁

xcgb - Member
try Iomio its legal - not free but around 1.40 for an album!

It would appear your actually paying to illegally download... there is no way it's legal.

kimbers - Member
im astonished that anyone would pay a record company 15 quid for an album

Not been on i-tunes recently then? obviously...

PJM1974 - Member
I want to be outraged by people sharing music online and not paying a royalty to record companies... But I can't.

£15 for a CD album that cost only £1 to make back in the day has seen to that.

Ignorance is Bliss hey... cost £1 to manufacture, not to make...

iDave - Member
A bike being nicked deprives the original owner use of the bike - so, yeah it is different

Put a spin on it all you want, principle...

[i] kimbers - Member
im astonished that anyone would pay a record company 15 quid for an album

Not been on i-tunes recently then? obviously... [/i]

so im robbing apple of money, makes a change have you seen how much they charge for a laptop!

the radiohead experiment was brilliant, it showed that on average people would pay 3 quid for an album the record industry should have listened to that
some did but most didnt
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-11547279

uplink - Member
Funny there's enough bleating when peoples bikes get nicked but thats different isn't it.
It is a bit, yeah

It'd be a bit like someone nicking your bike, copying it & then putting your back before you noticed

No... it would be like someone nicking a bike direct from Orange HQ & not giving it back

Why do all you retards think music just appears with no cost?

A bike being nicked deprives the original owner use of the bike - so, yeah it is different

Not really that different. A song/music/lyrics are the property of the artist/producer. If that property is stolen and redistributed for free, then that property becomes effectively useless to the artist/producer, assuming they wish to make some money from it. Anyway, the analogy still fits that you have poured money, effort and emotion into something which some **** nicks with little regard for its value to the original owner.

I'm astonished that some of you guys think it's OK to steal someone else's work. How old are you, 16?!

I 'borrow' it to see if I like it, if I do I tend to buy it on CD anyway as torrents tend to be poor quality and rubbish. And to be fair, I've downloaded a lot of stuff I'd certainly not have bothered buying to try, and bought those - so they'd never have seen that income if it were not for torrents.

And as for the bike analogy, it's only really relevant if the bike owner is a cycle courier on a bike of negligible value.

kimbers - Member
so im robbing apple of money, makes a change have you seen how much they charge for a laptop!

Apple, The Artist, The Record Label & all associated with those 3 & ofcourse the Taxman 😉

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coffeeking - Member
I 'borrow' it to see if I like it

You have to have permission to borrow something otherwise your stealing it...

timc - Member

You have to have permission to borrow something otherwise your stealing it...

You have permission from the person uploading it 🙂

timc, do you work in the record industry ?

pretty obvious hey Kuco

Hey don't get me confused for some anti piracy warrior, I know that horse bolted years ago... I Don't really care.

I just find the reasoning of some people bizarre & quite annoying. most annoying for me is people resent a popular artist making money... mental!