[Closed] Lance, latest have we done it yet.

Yup, some 7.5 million dollars. SCA also paid about 2.5 million in legal fees for armstrong which i suspect they'll want back with interest, along with payment of their own legal fees

The legal fees are included in the $7.5 million - the base figure is $5 million.

Crackpot Idea..?

Logical solution.

I thought the UCI said they'd be meeting on Friday to decide who won what.

I feel for all the Glasgow based cyclists who can no longer say they've ridden with a 7 time TdF champion

I feel for all the Glasgow based cyclists who can no longer say they've ridden with a 7 time TdF champion

the Lance enablers.
it can't be nice being duped in such a way 🙁

Let's not forget some of the positive things Lance has done for sport

If it wasn't for him, Average Joes would not have beaten GloboGym

the Lance enablers.
it can't be nice being duped in such a way

why is it trolling?
you 'believe'
you turn up on a wet and windy day to catch a glimpse of your hero.
you return home soaked through to the skin but with a warm glow inside as if you have been touched by greatness.
but it's all a sham, a decade of lies.

you must have some kind of emotional response to that? or not? i think the voice of the enablers should be heard, surely they have a right to that? just as i have a right to ask or comment in a thread about Lance Armstrong?
or are you a forum moderator?

on the positive side, there will be some 'new' reading matter that will not be all guff and puff, pretty pictures and uncritical acceptance.

If it wasn't for him, Average Joes would not have beaten GloboGym

But...it just feels so hollow now.

50 + pages and still such dreadfully obvious goading/trolling.

yes, but it's funny...

I'm struggling to get my head around how someone who cycled with a 'champion' could in any way be regarded as an 'enabler'?

If I played golf with Tiger Woods, would that have enabled him to shag even more women?

Of course you are struggling its because Smith is not so moronic as to believe what he says
Dont feed the troll

i predict Hora will be back in about 95 posts.....

oh it's sinking in, he's deleted his wins from his Twitter account
http://espn.go.com/olympics/cycling/story/_/id/8540579/lance-armstrong-removes-tour-titles-twitter-bio

did he do it or Twitter?

The response from the peleton up till now has been a colletive meh with a few "shoked" and "dissapointeds" thrown in but the response from Sammy Sanchez, the former olympic champ and TDF stage winner, really takes the biscuit.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/samuel-sanchez-criticises-armstrong-ban

You cannot punish a person only by verbal accusations. I think Lance has not tested positive throughout his career, was never sanctioned and now we see it all in cycling. One is accused of doping and they take away your career

Sammy sounds like a nervous chap.

Ok now we just need to work out which [s]poster[/s] Lance enabler he is on here 😉

did he do it or Twitter?

Good point. I'm guessing twitter, as they're still on his facebook page.

@ aracer: the 'no winners' comment was made in this morning's sports bulletin but nowt since - the Beeb may have jumped the gun.

Have just read in the Times that their Sunday publication will be looking for the £600k out of court settlement back from LA. Is it wrong to hope they give it to Kimmage for his defence against UCI? 🙂

Is it wrong to hope they give it to Kimmage for his defence against UCI?

It's not wrong to hope it but it haint gonna happen. Insetad it will go straight on the bottom line and into Murdoch's fat pockets.

If they were looking for a way to spend 600k to buy back some repuation for having the publics best interests at heart they would probably be looking for something a bit more high profile than an obscure cycling case.

oh sammy sanchez, i hope you are the victim of a poor translator.

That Sammy Sanchez quote seems to have come off the back of an Indurain interview.

It was an old rugby mate of mine that arranged the Glasgow cycle a few years back. He is a cancer survivor and used the live strong message to support him. He was very proud to be phoned out of the blue by Lance Armstrong and asked to arrange said ride out. If you have watched the footage you can see him in the background. The impression I got from him was that regardless of LA's now extremely tarnished reputation he was delighted to highlight the foundation in a positive way.
He also got a once in a lifetime invitation the the TDF. Backstage passes included.

you return home soaked through to the skin but with a warm glow inside as if you have been touched by greatness.

Good point. I'm guessing twitter, as they're still on his facebook page.

It would be really quite shocking if twitter started editing people's profile for accuracy. I would guess it was Lance that removed his wins. I wonder who removed his Leadville wins from Wikipedia though as I didn't think they were governed by the UCI

Indurain supports him

Even now I believe in his innocence. He has always respected all the regulations… He has won all the cases he's had".

On that basis, Armstrong waiving his right to appeal confused Indurain. "What surprises me is that he doesn't keep fighting," he said. "I think he will come back and appeal and try to show that he played fair for all those years."

Indurain also took issue with the investigative process, challenging the validity of the evidence it produced. "I am a little taken aback. It is strange that this is done only from testimonies. Rules were in place and now it seems they have changed."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/oct/23/lance-armstrong-miguel-indurain-uci-evidence

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Given he didn't seem that pissed off about Riis beating him doped up to the eyeballs, you'd have to wonder whether big Mig is doing that whole honour amongst thieves thing.

Really though, I wonder if pro cyclists really understand that coming out in support of Lance is hardly making the public and sponsors think that the rest of them are clean. Clearly the teams do which was why Sky obviously jumped all over Dowsett after his stupid comment.

Can someone please tell Indurain that fans would really like Omerta to be over now? Thanks

When cyclists who were never picked up in a dope test start saying that the only evidence that they'd ever accept is having been caught by a dope test, you wonder if they're worried about something.

It's time time now to rehabilitate Lance back to his true position as the worlds bestest ever bike race winner. You all know that he is a winner and we should respect that and support him in his charitable works.

I think it shows the extent of the divide in cycling where it does seem that some riders /teams and now managers thought and think anything goes as long as you win and you dont get caught
It is quite worrying IMHO and suggests route and branch may be the only way to sort this out.

"Omerta" ...ha!...bunch of drama queens

So now that I have not been flamed as a Lance lover, you all must agree that Mr Armstrong's reputation is about to be reinstated as a cycling God and giver of life. As such can I interest you in a bargain? I have a container full of yellow bands with Livewrong imprinted, now I know that they normally went out at a £1 but you could be ahead of the curve at 50p a band. At that price I could see some of you on ebay making a killing once Lances book comes out. Remember those bands will be much higher in value now as every roadie (with a trek) has now thrown theirs away.

Remember Love Lance and get your orders in early.

Indurain supports him

Clearly I was wrong about him being clean then.

not too fussed by Indurain, it was Delgado for me.

*puts fingers in ears and la la la's*

I'll take that as a no then. You'll all be sorry when he becomes US President.

mt I for one want to hear so much more about your love lance 😉

I'd not call it love so much as trying to be in first when he is seen as misunderstood and really a true all American winner. For once it would be good to be ahead of the curve, a bit like all those people who knew Lance was a cheat years ago and were never taken in by him, theres loads of them on this thread. : :-): In fact I'm surprised that some of them have not been sued by LA or are actually working for WADA. I was also trying to make a silly comment about the lack of yellow bands around.

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[i]"Omerta" ...ha!...bunch of drama queens [/i]

You know it's been peloton slang for many years, right?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/opinion-michael-ashenden-on-omerta-101
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/interview-cycling-omerta-broken-says-hamilton-222352101--spt.html
http://www.americanlawyer.com/PubArticleALD.jsp?id=1202574851052&USADA_Lawyers_Speak_Out_About_Armstrong_Probe_Pro_Cyclings_Omert&slreturn=20120923123651
etc etc

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