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It adds in the ability to land on planets and drive around in a rover, multicrew, and other stuff that I cant remember. There’s a new expansion on the horizon too (lol pun), if rumours are to be believed.
Sounds like I should save my cash until I get bored of the core game
I didn't realise that being in FSS wasn't un-interdictable 🙁
@Kato don't fly without rebuy! Leave an LTD or two for me, I'm back this weekend, o7
@JackHammer thanks for the heads up, I never knew that either.
Matt
Sounds like I should save my cash until I get bored of the core game
I wouldn't. Planetary missions are part of the core game as far as I'm concerned. There are lots of missions that involve landing on settlements even if not driving around. And I've no idea how you'd get meta-alloys, but aren't engineers also part of Horizons? I think playing without the update is playing half the game.
Yup, Engineers are definitely Horizons. You can collect meta alloys by buying them but you can't do anything with them as Farseer Inc. is a settlement you need to land at.
Anyway, got blown up for the first time today trying to do missions around Decyat or whatever its called. Twice. So now I've thrown a strop and currently flying 63 jumps anticlockwise so I can hopefully take a dogleg route to the Shitehawk nebula, avoiding the permit space in between.
Yeah Deciat is full of graks. Go there in solo mode.
It wasn't Deciat itself but the surrounding systems. Still, just got absolutely shredded before my FSD could even get started. Now the only thing I have to worry about are solar flares.
Wasn't even scanned, that's the worst of it!
I wouldn’t. Planetary missions are part of the core game as far as I’m concerned. There are lots of missions that involve landing on settlements even if not driving around. And I’ve no idea how you’d get meta-alloys, but aren’t engineers also part of Horizons? I think playing without the update is playing half the game.
Great - thanks.
+1 for Horizons - not sure but I think it upgraded my Sidewinder with supercruise assist, a docking computer and the planetary approach package, as well as an SRV.
What's a Grak?
Do you guys tend to have a "home" system/orbital you tend to return to with all your ships in it, or are you more nomadic and get ships transferred as and when you need/want them?
“don’t fly without rebuy! Leave an LTD or two for me, I’m back this weekend, o7”
Have 50m slush fund to cover the rebuy! I can see my having to spend another 150m A grading this
Do you guys tend to have a “home” system/orbital you tend to return to with all your ships in it, or are you more nomadic and get ships transferred as and when you need/want them?
Both. I find somewhere with multiple booms going on and I do missions for a particular faction to gain rep, at which point they start offering me silly money for missions. Then I make that my home for a while until the boom is all tapped out.
Do you guys tend to have a “home” system/orbital you tend to return to with all your ships in it, or are you more nomadic and get ships transferred as and when you need/want them?
I have a base at the minute, just as it's handy for what I'm doing and it's got a fair array of kit at a discount (so I'm led to believe!), so I keep everything there, but I've no compulsion about Fed-Exing it all elsewhere if I find somewhere better. I'll base out of Jameson Orbital one day... 🙂
Graks, griefers, gankers, call them what you will. Basically their idea of a good time is to sit in areas which are highly populated with human cmdrs or have a heavy traffic of them, interdict anything in sight and blow it to smithereens.
Deciat is a favourite because it is the base of Farseer Inc., the first engineer most new players unlock. Their ships are hugely engineered and you would not put a mark on them even if you managed to turn round to fire on them. The only guaranteed way get past is to run in solo, I have heard of players destroyed taking off from Farseer before they could get their gear up!
Matt
Seems last time I played I was trying to get into the transport business, I have a Type 7 Transporter that holds around 264t of loot. Think this was considered a basic transport ship when i played and even more basic now! Also have the standard Sidewinder and a Cobra MKIII which i think was kitted out for combat. Competant in combat rank, Merchant in trade and Scout in Exploring...think i@ll do some trading missions and gather the reps required for better ships
Still can't suss posting in squadron chat! Doing exploration and finding it surprisingly enjoyable, even if I've found nothing but ice balls and asteroids so far. 🙂
Rocks and ice, the staples of exploration.
So far I have taken a random approach and headed about 300 - 500Ly in one direction. Next time out I'm going to look for something cool to visit. One thing I want to try is to go as high out of the galactic plane as I can, and go to the 'end' of one of the 'arms' of the spiral.
Matt
That appeals to me too.
I managed to get the trophy for discovering a planet, is there anyway to see where it what it was? I was too busy doing other stuff to pay attention.
Just hit a billion too, going to get another 500mil to set me up and then I'm moving on playing.
Still can’t suss posting in squadron chat!
When you are on the chat window press L2/R2.
One thing I want to try is to go as high out of the galactic plane as I can, and go to the ‘end’ of one of the ‘arms’ of the spiral.
Might go for a lap if the Shitehawk nebula is a no go. Or perhaps not, I should really consider repair limpets before doing anything silly.
Just don't do what I've just done, happily making my way back from a 900Ly each way trip, landed on a planet to collect some elements from biological signals. Decided to move to a second site, so in the middle of a cruise round the planet, I get asked to help fold some sheets.
No problem, it's a 5 min cruise. Next thing I know I'm on the rebuy shelling out half a million. I can't even think about the scan data. Bourbon is helping!
Matt
Well ****. Everything I do, the controller buzzes. Launch the ship? Buzz. Collect a mining fragment? Buzz. Drive the SRV? Bloody thing never stops.
Not watching the screen and we fly into the sun? Not a ****ing peep. Pissed off.
Still, as Maximo Park say, what happens when we lose everything? We just start again. 🙂
That's the spirit!
On the plus side I seem to have been promoted by the Feds! The Empire have the coolest ships, but in a Mitchell and Webb way, you can't help feeling they're the bad guys.
Matt
The are the bad guys but they bought my principles along with the spoils of my first successful mining trip. I only found two decent roids, one with alexandrite in the void opal hotspot and one with void opals in the alexandrite hotspot. Both were deep cores.
I didn't find any subsurface deposits. And I couldn't find any clues as to where the deep cores were, it just seemed random.
900ly?
Balls, my current flounce is 3700 odd just to get to the dogleg, probably that again to get to the nebula! Only 130odd jumps I think, not checked the route for fuel stops so may end up more.
That's kind of my plan next time. The first two trips were just looping out scanning as many planets as possible.
The next trips are going to be with a target in mind.
Matt
I’m on the Road to Riches trip at the moment. I thought I was close to Elite in exploration but I still had another level to go. Hopefully this will take me there.
Using this
Road to Riches
As I lost all my explorer data, I might do that next. 🙂
Has anyone done that huge passenger mission where some guy pays 135mCr to be take to the other side of the galaxy?
Cor - no, but I'd be happy to see that pop up! 🙂 Saw a few 30mCr ones but didn't take them on as they were over 20k Ly and a route couldn't be plotted - I'd take one now, though. 🙂
It was literally the other side of the galaxy. 22kLy.
I see them pop up and think it would be good to do one, but I'm a whore for the credits at the moment and I can make 100m an hour or so mining. I think once I've a billion in the bank I'll go for an explore
After my exploring train wreck I jumped in the Cobra and became Matt, wandering space adventurer, roaming around the bubble seeing what I could find.
The Cobra is fitted with all the scanners, decent guns (now) and an SRV so ready for anything. I think when people talk about the grind they have missed this part of the game. Just mooching I found so much, High grade emissions, a barnacle, class 5 raws, loads of data and telemetry. I'm off home to play miner this evening, but popping in to see an engineer on the way.
Showing my age, but I can't help thinking; Felicity, Felicity you fill me with electricity, every time I see Farseer Inc.
Matt
I’ve done quite a few passenger sightseeing missions that involved 90-100 20ly jumps each way but I did them over a number of weeks. The big ones usually have a 4 week time limit. They’re not massive payers but the money comes from scanning every system visited and in some places I had first discoveries.
To be honest I didn’t start doing this kind of mission until I had enough credits in my account that I wasn’t worried about the rate of earning. It is a slow way to earn credits, for sure.
Just made 6m on LTDs in about 45 mins.
You people making 100m an hour, are you going to the triple hotspots that people are telling you about, or are you finding things on your own? Just want to know how crap I am 🙂
Triple hotspot for me.
It's one of those things where the speed does improve over time. You can optimise the scanning, rock recognition, collection etc.
If you are deep core mining, you will never get to that 100-150 million per hour, it is just slower. For surface the triple hotspot increases the number of high percentage rocks, to the point that you can pass anything with less than 20% LTD.
Matt
Surface mining Triple hotspots in an Anaconda. Can fill 100t easy in an hour with 5A limpet controllers and 2A refinery. I get bored before I can fill the up. Think it’s got 192t cargo capacity at the mo. I’m Only picking up LTD. I discard everything else
Do you just fire prospector limpets at anything for surface mining? Or do you still use the PWA?
I've fired loads of limpets at orange roids and most of the time it's nothing but low value stuff. Even in the supposed 'hotspots', but then I'm only in single hotspots.
I’m Only picking up LTD. I discard everything else
Seems to be quite a few other minerals worth as much or more than LTDs...?
Wow, nearly got ganked by an NPC!
I was just heading towards Deciat (about 5-6 jumps out) when I see some smack talk in chat. Usually it's just pirate stuff so I didn't pay attention and just submitted straight away when the interdiction came, ready to give chase when they see I have no cargo. Not this time, he came out all guns blazing and in no time my shields were gone and hull was 66%. I got my pips to shields and boosted/high waked out of there by the skin of my teeth. Never come across such an aggressive NPC before.
Just landed at Deciat, to give Felicity her courtship gift, won't donate, funny. Check inventory, 2t of meta-alloys nowhere to be seen, cargo hatch errors when I was being attacked, you bastard! 13 jumps back to Hyades sector! Frustrating this game sometimes.
Matt
@molgrips the PWA is just for cores. I find that for surface, the oranges which are not cores (if that makes sense) actually give lower surface returns than random rocks.
For surface, fire prospectors at rocks which you could mine easily, round and/or slow spinning, then choose the ones with the best content. You have to be generous with the prospectors, fill your hold. In contrast core, you will only prospect actual or very likely targets, which you have ID by shape and PWA
In the triple hotspot there are loads of high percentage rocks.
Matt
“Do you just fire prospector limpets at anything for surface mining? Or do you still use the PWA”
Nah I just turn up with 200 limpets and fire them at anything. I’ll set one of the hotspots as a target so I know my orientation so I’m not going over stuff twice. Then fire prospectors until mine anything over 20%
”Seems to be quite a few other minerals worth as much or more than LTDs”
I’ve found there’s places you can sell LTD for over 1m a ton within 10 jumps of Borann, so I just concentrate on LTD. Not really looked at anything ekse
Plus I have a 6A shield generator and military hull reinforcement. So if I get interdicted I submit. There’s very few ships that can mass lock mine so I stick the pips on the shields and jump away
Most of the time...
I think ultimate price there isn't anything better than LTD, especially due to the triple hotspot. Other things are worth mining, but if you want to maximise cash LTD in Borann, well until the next release.
Matt