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Anyone able to explain why they wear headphones? Surely they can hear each other across a table.
Can anyone explain why they need headphones?
Allegedly it goes like this:
-Nooooo thats ****ing WILD, man
-For real. Yeah.
-No seriously...what we have happening is that monkeys are now evolving in kind of a not-parallel with humans way, like the same, but not exactly the same, like, like, MUCH further behind
-Like Planet Of the ****ing Apes ahahahahaha!
-I’m not kidding. Orangutangs just entered the stone age. So in the future...
-They’ll be walking down 5th Av with a briefcase?
-(Draws on giant ‘spliff’ off-camera, bumpety bump) Probably not ... Because orangutans are primarily threatened by human activities and development that cause the loss and degradation of their forest habitats. Currently, the IUNC has classified the Bornean orangutan as Endangered and the Sumatran orangutan as Critically Endangered
-GTFO??? What are you inhaling there, bucko?
-Yeah, both species....both species are, are, both species are in severe decline which means that without drastic intervention, orangutans will soon be extinct as biologically viable populations in the wild.
-Wild
-Too much real dude. Too much real.
-So lemme see this video of the monkey spearing fish!
-Oh, I dunno dude, I saw it somewhere.
-Like their own stone age is happening!
-That is SO wild (smh)
-So anyway, it is SO fascinating
-It really looks like The Jungle Book! Huh?
- ....
-Joe?
- ...
-Hey!
-Oh yeah, er
-You like totally zoned out there
-Yeah I was just, you know I was just thinking that extinction stuff I said back there
-Oh you mean with the monkeys?
-Yeah
-Bad, right?
-Well, kinda bad but I mean if we’re burning them anyway...
....
-?
...I was kinda wondering what they taste like.
-You wanna eat an orangutang?
-Yeah, a baby one too.
-(producer’s voice in headphones) ‘Joe, we just got 1m new subscribers the eating burning monkeys. Eating monkeys is good. Stay with it. Just dial it back with the treehugging shit or go right to the oral sex jokes, mkeh?
-(Joe) So, er, so...someone tells me you give great head?
-Who says that?
-YOU said that!
-Wait, dude, do you think monkeys have oral sex?
-I think we need to find that out...
the one with Jake the Snake Roberts is worth a listen if you were a fan of the golden age of wrestling (80's)
Got through 30mins of the Jones one. Not sure I could cope with nearly 5 hours of it. It's exhausting listening to him but imagine what it's like in his head! All his thoughts constantly racing off in different directions while his raspy voice tries to keep up. I'm sure he makes perfect sense to himself. I find him mostly incomprehensible.
All his thoughts constantly racing off in different directions while his raspy voice tries to keep up. I’m sure he makes perfect sense to himself. I find him mostly incomprehensible.
Exactly what I was thinking. Even Rogan starts pointing out that he's ranting, flipping from one subject to another. It must be exhausting..
Exactly what I was thinking. Even Rogan starts pointing out that he’s ranting, flipping from one subject to another. It must be exhausting..
He is evidently not all there.
Did that one start with a suspicious bathroom visit?
Not sure I could cope with nearly 5 hours of it.
5 hours? Is that the length of podcasts these days? This convinces me even further that JRE and the like is in some way a de facto surrogate for social-life/friends IRL. I’m now reading about him on STW, making this my ‘nested‘ social-surrogate. Thick plot.
He is evidently not all there.
Without a doubt Alex Jones is an ill man, he has some form of psychosis. The trouble with him appearing on the Joe Rogan show is that Joe acts (like most rational people do ) as a gullible fool* and the show just descends into another episode of Infowars. Joe does his best, but he's out gunned by Alex at every turn. Alex Jones has spent his entire career on both radio and TV doing this conspiracy shit, Joe is an amateur
* I'm not saying Joe Rogan is a gullible fool. I'm saying that Joe is forced into that role by Alex Jones' scatter gun approach to "explanation"
Well I've got to over an hour and it's given me some laughs. An unfiltered torrent of wild and baseless claims. He rarely goes into detail but just jumps to the next outrageously impossible assertion. I wonder what he talks to his children about. Something tells me he doesn't have an off switch...
5 hours? Is that the length of podcasts these days? This convinces me even further that JRE and the like is in some way a de facto surrogate for social-life/friends IRL.
I just watched/listened to the latest Ben Shapiro, 1hr 45. so about the length of a movie. It was an interesting discussion, and both of them talked some "common sense" about the crazy stuff going on in the world right now. They talked some horse shit about some subjects too, but that's what I like about it. Its a free forum for ideas, good and bad.
As for being a social life surrogate, well, firstly im not sure if you are joking or not, but its just entertainment. If it doesn't entertain you, don't listen to it. I don't like thrash metal so I don't listen to it, but I am aware that other people like it.
Alex Jones has spent his entire career on both radio and TV doing this conspiracy shit, Joe is an amateur
Do you think that Rogan just plays the fool, or do you think he’s allowing Jones enough rope to hang himself? I didn’t watch that and think I’ve got it all wrong about Jones, it just confirmed what I already thought. I certainly don’t have a desire to watch any of the infowars nonsense.
Of course, it assumes a level of intelligence on the listeners behalf but then idiots will follow the nonsense regardless of if it’s shown on Rogans podcast or elsewhere
Do you think that Rogan just plays the fool, or do you think he’s allowing Jones enough rope to hang himself?
It doesn't really matter. It's like Listening to a Phil Collins Album "ironically". You're still listening to Phil Collins....
Even if Joe is Playing the fool, that's immaterial to Alex Jones, he gets to say what he wants, Likewise, if Joe is giving him space to say what he wants, Alex gets to say what he wants..
that’s immaterial to Alex Jones, he gets to say what he wants, Likewise, if Joe is giving him space to say what he wants, Alex gets to say what he wants..
But thats free speech right? that's a good thing?
I just watched/listened to the latest Ben Shapiro, 1hr 45. so about the length of a movie*. It was an interesting discussion
yeah, I saw a movie. It was bad. Wasted over an hour of my life for certain.
Luckily I knew very quickly what Ben Shapiro’s about so it saves me watching his endless sequels of The Grifter. On the plus side - 2 hrs of Shapiro’s jackhammer staccato will deliver AT least 3x more syllables than Joe Rogan. So you get effectively 6hrs for the price of 2 😉
As for being a social life surrogate, well, firstly im not sure if you are joking or not,
Should have winked. I was also attempting self-deprecation as I too spend a loooooot of time listening to opinions of opinions of internet babble. Truth in humour time - it’s surely no entire coincidence that those hours of mine were/are not instead spent with friends and ex-friends/developing new friendships/trying new things as they would most certainly have been before the internet. In fact most certainly. I was 30 yrs old in the 90s. Society has changed and always will as we become more bubbled in our screenworld and emergent L/R dire-log.
but its just entertainment. If it doesn’t entertain you, don’t listen to it. I don’t like thrash metal so I don’t listen to it, but I am aware that other people like it.
Absotively. Decent comparison if you’d specified a particularly political thrash metal band who make their money from pushing a certain political narrative in their lyrics.
But point taken!
Can well imagine a metal band named ‘Shapiro‘!
Song ― ‘How to Destroy The Left’
(Double kick-pedal hammers, slicing riffs arc across the speakers)
(Four-count)
240bpm Ben roars:
“No wonder the left seeks to avoid political debate at all costs. Why bother? Members of the left are not interested in having a debate about policy.
(Mini guitar solo)
They are not interested in debating what is right or wrong.
They are interested in debating you personally.
They are interested in castigating you as a nasty human being because you happen to disagree.
This is what makes leftists leftists!
This is what makes leftists leftists!
This is what makes leftists leftists!
(16 bar bass solo with drum fireworks)
An unearned sense of moral superiority over you!
They are nasty humans! Nastyyyyyyy!
When I, I, I, I
(Guitar shreds the clouds)
When, when when when, IIIiiiiiiiiiIIIIiiii...
When I ......Iiiiii. Am Their Moral Superioraaaaarghhhh. Aahhhh. Aahhhh.
*mic drop, klangchord*
(Please be sure to like, subscribe and support me on Patreon or via Fox Newstainment. And remember, The Left are horrible people, that’s what makes them The Left)
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It wasn’t his role, it is now.
Are you suggesting when a persons audience size/following reaches a certain number they should be subject to the same broadcasting standards as say the Johnathon Ross Show? With his modern interpretation of nudge nudge wink wink, double entourages, roster of vetted acceptable guests, overseen and edited by the broadcaster.
it’s a chat show, albeit a less regulated version than what you’d get on TV
To quote myself, you read it it didn't you? The reality is he doesn't have to be more circumspect as you put it. His podcast is self-titled, people aren't being sold a mickey.
I know there are people who think all information in the public domain should be filtered down to the pig thick masses for fear of them making the wrong choices, I'm not one of them.
Are you suggesting when a persons audience size/following reaches a certain number they should be subject to the same broadcasting standards as say the Johnathon Ross Show?
No, I'm suggesting that if you're going to have conspiracy theory nutjobs who will lie for money on your show (as opposed to say Brian Cox or some random MMA fighter) then yeah, you have to have some sort of standard to which they can be held. Otherwise, you're just enabling them, and in Alex Jones' case, probably re-enforcing whatever mental delusion he's suffering from
I know there are people who think all information in the public domain should be filtered down to the pig thick masses for fear of them making the wrong choices, I’m not one of them
Cool, if you're Joe Rogan and you have a super successful podcast, you'd invite these people on, would you let them lie with impunity to you or would you hold them to account for making stuff up for money?
you have to have some sort of standard to which they can be held.
Why?
No but yeah ok....
You're going round in circles. You can ignore the reality and not like him and one particular loony guest that's your prerogative.
Why?
Have you heard the lies that Alex Jones tells for money?
You can ignore the reality and not like him and one particular loony guest that’s your prerogative.
This sentence makes no sense.
Have you heard the lies that Alex Jones tells for money?
You didn’t answer.
Yes, some, but that doesn’t answer my question. There are many ways to make money from untruths. One of them is to entertain people by pretending that you believe conspiracy theories. Another is to actually believe them, and entertain people, that way. Another is to create them yourself...etc
Endless opportunity in a free market. Why would you wish to limit the free market of ideas? Isn’t that what infotainment is all about? Entertaining people with new (and recycled) info and disinfo? Let the viewer decide?
You want to gag people? Or make them toe some policy line? On their own show?
You want to gag people?
Nope, far from it. I'd have Alex Jones on my podcast in a flash...But I'd make damn sure I had some actual proof to counter his crap...
Nope, far from it. I’d have Alex Jones on my podcast in a flash…But I’d make damn sure I had some actual proof to counter his crap…
Ah, the ‘proof’ dollar. Small dollar. Well-meaning dollar. Interesting market though. Fluctuating. Ultimately I reckon you’d have to spice it up a bit or learn to grow your own food. You‘d also have the not inconsiderable problem of trying to get bullshitters to debate you on your show. They guard their bullshit verrrry carefully and are superpicky about who they debate/mug.
See Sam Seder vs ‘liberals won’t debate me’ Steve Crowder for an off the top example. More likely they’d choose to shoot their shit with an established hungry-for-clicks-and-kicks non-judging, super-easygoing bromancer, or else mug some random college kid. Why would they ‘debate’ you? Seriously? Your dream show is stillborn I’m afraid. You’re old money. The Cook Report finished in 1999. 😉
Joe's flip flopping on issues dependent on guests position annoys me as much as the next person but to see people think he has some kind of responsibility as a broadcaster is laughable, it's closer to overhearing a conversation between people at the pub than a regulated broadcast.
I have listed since double digits, when it was only on ustream and hadn't made it to youtube yet and it was far more conspiracy based back then, Joe used to love the moon landings were filmed by Kubrik, big foot is out there, UFO's are abducting people and ancient aliens made us. He has moved position on conspiracies quite a lot.
I've only dipped in and out since covid however, I find his position on covid and masks insufferable. While he is spending 1000's a month on age extension treatments, vitamins and testing, he is advocating everyone else should just eat better and run hills and they would be fine. He doesn't seem to get at all that while he thinks it is unfair he can't do comedy and it curtails his freedoms, he advocates the vulnerable people should just stay shielded forever as somehow being fair.
Tom O'Neill one is brill. About Michael Manson and CIA links.
Nope, far from it. I’d have Alex Jones on my podcast in a flash…But I’d make damn sure I had some actual proof to counter his crap…
Are many listening to your podcast?
Well, one way (I'm not saying its a good way) of judging a youtube channel is what other channels videos start getting suggested after watching. JRE does not do great by this metric, it's wall to wall incel heaven.
Guy Ritchie was a good listen. Varied topics, good rapport. Some MMA chat but not too much.
All this 'free market of ideas' stuff, have you people actually been noticing what is going on in the world? Having a wild, largely unregulated space for people to promote their ideas has meant a huge rise in vile, toxic ideas that rile up people's most base emotions, resulting in massively more actual real life abuse of all sorts of minority groups, and Brexit/Trump etc.
The mass gathering of data with the aim of manipulation, and validation of extremist groups by online peers isn't some kind of holy grail of free speech, it's often a cesspit. I know of more than one person who started listening to Joe Rogan and has gone down a slippery slope of the kind of incel type videos mentioned above btw.
I'm not sure what the answer is but let's not try and pretend unfettered 'free speech' is some kind of hallowed ideal. It's really not.
I know of more than one person who started listening to Joe Rogan and has gone down a slippery slope of the kind of incel type videos mentioned above btw.
So he’s the gateway drug of podcasts then? I just thought he was a bloke chatting shit and getting paid for it. Listen to him, don’t listen to him, the world will carry on regardless. I’ve listened to or watched a few and not ended up on cocaine hating women or people of different ethnic backgrounds. Guess I must be doing something wrong.
I’ve listened to or watched a few and not ended up on cocaine hating women or people of different ethnic backgrounds. Guess I must be doing something wrong.
Oh cool you took a tiny bit of what I said (and ignored the rest) and made out I said something much more extreme then mocked that made up version. Haven't we made great progress as a species and isn't the internet wonderful.
Oh cool you took a tiny bit of what I said (and ignored the rest) and made out I said something much more extreme then mocked that made up version. Haven’t we made great progress as a species and isn’t the internet wonderful.
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No I read what you said, which is far fetched to say the least and took the piss. I don’t think Joe Rogan, who is the topic of this thread, has much to do with any of it. I think you possibly need to step away from the internet for a while. The world (the real one), on balance, is a great place full of decent people and much better than it was twenty or thirty years ago.
In real life at least people don't make such stupid straw man arguments all the time. I'm interested to know how things are better than the year 2000 now - I guess if you don't like intellectuals and foreigners maybe they are.
I think you possibly need to step away from the internet for a while.
The only worthwhile thing you said.
Going back to the OP's question I enjoyed the Snowdon one and the Rob Zombie one. The Elon Musk one was quite compelling too.
I just finished the Alex Jones one. My first exposure to the guy. It was interesting. Possibly in inverted commas.
I know of more than one person who started listening to Joe Rogan and has gone down a slippery slope of the kind of incel type videos mentioned above btw.
Said people could of just as easily listened to the episodes with Neil deGrasse Tyson, Sean Carroll, Darryl Davis, David Goggins, ROss Edgerley, Megan Phelps Rhoper or Jake the Snake and been insprired or motivated to explore new ideas, see how people can grow and change their mind sets or make themselves a better person.
They would of been drawn to the negative ideas eventually if that is what they have chosen to pursue. Sure it is easier to get hours of out straight to your ears now but in the past it was a nutter down the pub or someone at work trying to pass you a David Icke book to open your eyes.
Op, writing the above made me remember guests, episodes worth visiting include:
Neil deGrasse Tyson & Sean Carroll - Physicists
Darryl Davis - African american who has conviced many KKK and neo-nazi's to change their beliefs
David Goggins - Navy Seal, ultra athlete, motivational person
ROss Edgerley- swam around the UK
Megan Phelps Rhoper - grew up in the West Borough Baptsih church and managed to escape
Jake the Snake Roberts - Wrestling, ill health and overcoming alcholism
Tyson Fury and Mike Tyson
Dr. Carl Hart - Addiction Professor
Michael Wood - Inner city police officer who came to hate all that is wrong with US policing
Paul Stamets - Mushroom expert
Edward Snowdon, - not normal JRE, more a monologue by Snowden
Randall Carlson - Geologist who thinks there was a mass extinction event that isn't recognised
Duncan Truseel and Chris Ryan - fun episodes called the Shrimp parade
Steve Rhinella - all things american wilderness and hunting
Dan Carlin - historian, has his own great podcast
Antonhy Bordain
Laance Armstrong if thats your thing
The only worthwhile thing you said.
Yet you’re still posting 😉 The only straw man argument here is your ridiculous statement indicating that people were turned by listening to his podcast. I’m not the only one that has poked holes in your bit of trivia either.
The notion that by and large the world is a better place than if was 20 or 30 years ago could be a thread in its own right.
Being a child of the late 60's, thinking about how things had changed from my grandparents generation to my parents and then looking at how my generation (or so I thought) had moved on from our parents I have to say, had you asked me at 20 what I thought things would be like when I'm 50 I'd have hoped for and expected things to be a lot better than they are.
As far as the UK is concerned, Whilst I can recognise strides that were made during the late 60's and again in the late 80's early 90's I fail to see anything much to shout about in either of the last 2 decades.
I know of more than one person who started listening to Joe Rogan and has gone down a slippery slope of the kind of incel type videos mentioned above btw.
I think youtube's algorithm is to blame. Every time I watch anything of Joe Rogan's I start getting bombarded with Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro recommendations and I have to delete my youtube history to get it to stop.