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Prob'ly done but
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/oct/13/woman-charged-over-alleged-jeremy-vine-bike-confrontation

Shanique Syrena Pearson

'nuff said


 
Posted : 13/10/2016 1:04 pm
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Shanique Syrena Pearson

'nuff said

🙄


 
Posted : 13/10/2016 1:07 pm
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Was she in 5 Star with Delroy, Stedman and Doris and that?


 
Posted : 13/10/2016 1:09 pm
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22! bloody hell, she's had a hard paper round


 
Posted : 13/10/2016 1:10 pm
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I would guess the failure to licence the vehicle will be the one charge to stick in the end.


 
Posted : 13/10/2016 1:13 pm
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Shanique Syrena Pearson
'nuff said

Not 'nuff for me sorry, what is her name telling us?


 
Posted : 13/10/2016 1:14 pm
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She has Nigel Pearson's anger issues.


 
Posted : 13/10/2016 1:18 pm
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'Nuff said for me.


 
Posted : 13/10/2016 1:18 pm
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what is the offence of "Failing to licence" is it failure to have it registered on a V5? or just old fashioned no VED?


 
Posted : 13/10/2016 1:19 pm
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Lol, another idiot on the road.

Don't let your temper/anger out on other people.


 
Posted : 13/10/2016 1:22 pm
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I would guess no VED


 
Posted : 13/10/2016 1:22 pm
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Not 'nuff for me sorry, what is her name telling us?

That she had a bad start in life having parents that gave her a stupid made-up name.

But you knew that already.


 
Posted : 13/10/2016 1:23 pm
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That she had a bad start in life having parents that gave her a stupid made-up name.

The name I use is not the one I have on my birth certificate and was "made up" by my parents and is the one I have used for well over 50 years, so should I take them to task for my bad start in life?


 
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what is her name telling us?

Her father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. Her mother was a fifteen year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet. Her father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament.


 
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I think we can close the internet for the rest of the day. Beefheart has just won


 
Posted : 13/10/2016 1:28 pm
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although Beefheart's passage (ooh err) seems strangely familiar.

Plagiarism?


 
Posted : 13/10/2016 1:31 pm
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Dr Evil!


 
Posted : 13/10/2016 1:33 pm
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Who cares what her name, gender, race or her background is?

She and millions of drivers/cyclists have poor road manners. Regardless of their background.

Including the Duke of Edinburgh.

Don't blame others, sort your life out.


 
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Plagiarism?

No, he's got some cream for that

IGMC


 
Posted : 13/10/2016 1:33 pm
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It's a shit name and defines her as a person. She was unlikely to be an astronaut with a name like that but most definitely a go by little shit.
Tyson Fury flower arranger?


 
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my fellow STW'ers, ask not what your copy & paste can do for you, ask what you can do for your copy & paste


 
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Dr J's a racist, too? First Cougar, now Dr J, it's like its suddenly singletrackkkworld in here


 
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outing the 52%, one at a time


 
Posted : 13/10/2016 1:43 pm
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Duke of Edinburgh.

Duke of Edinburgh? I bet I can guess what his parents were like.


 
Posted : 13/10/2016 1:46 pm
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http://www.slate.com/articles/business/the_dismal_science/2005/04/a_roshanda_by_any_other_name.html

The data show that, on average, a person with a distinctively black name—whether it is a woman named Imani or a man named DeShawn—does have a worse life outcome than a woman named Molly or a man named Jake. But it isn't the fault of his or her name. If two black boys, Jake Williams and DeShawn Williams, are born in the same neighborhood and into the same familial and economic circumstances, they would likely have similar life outcomes. But the kind of parents who name their son Jake don't tend to live in the same neighborhoods or share economic circumstances with the kind of parents who name their son DeShawn. And that's why, on average, a boy named Jake will tend to earn more money and get more education than a boy named DeShawn. DeShawn's name is an indicator—but not a cause—of his life path.


 
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...and what?


 
Posted : 13/10/2016 2:00 pm
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It's a shit name and defines her as a person. She was unlikely to be an astronaut with a name like that but most definitely a go by little shit.

Seriously? Care to explain why?


 
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[quote=Stoner ]what is the offence of "Failing to licence" is it failure to have it registered on a V5? or just old fashioned no VED?

It's the latter.

I expect the other charges might well stick - she'd not have been taken to court for them if there wasn't a realistic chance of that, and TBH the footage provides decent evidence for them based on their definition in law.


 
Posted : 13/10/2016 2:19 pm
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Is Shanique a "black name"? It makes me think chav tbh, but then I know a woman called Crystal who is inexplicably not a sex worker, so we shouldn't judge.


 
Posted : 13/10/2016 2:21 pm
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Racism! Here too? My lord. Who'd a thunk it. You have to be so careful who you forum hang round with these days.


 
Posted : 13/10/2016 2:29 pm
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http://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/

Careless driving (drive without due care and attention)
[i]Triable only summarily:
Maximum: Level 5 fine
Must endorse and may disqualify. If no disqualification, impose 3 – 9 points[/i]

No Excise Licence
[i]No excise licence L3 or five times annual duty, whichever is greater [/i]

Threatening behaviour
[i]Triable only summarily
Maximum: Level 5 fine and/or 6 months
Fear or threat of low level immediate unlawful violence such as push, shove or spit: Band B fine to medium level community order[/i]

Fine Band B: 75 – 125% of relevant weekly income

Fine Levels:
Level 1 £200
Level 2 £500
Level 3 £1,000
Level 4 £2,500
Level 5 Unlimited (for offences committed after 13 March 2015)*

Taking bets on sentencing then, I'm going with:
6 points for careless driving
£1,000 for unpaid VED fine
Conditional discharge on the threatening behaviour.


 
Posted : 13/10/2016 2:35 pm
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But you knew that already.

You overestimate my powers of assumption - it was a genuine question, I didn't know what, if anything, the name was supposed to signify.

Others have raised race, and suggested that it is "black" name? I didn't know that, so if you think my post was implying that you were racist (as some of the subsequent posts seem to suggest I may have been) you (and they) are wrong.

Having all seen the video when it first appeared, the one thing we knew already about her was that she was black!


 
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Who cares what her name, gender, race or her background is?

Just so long as she isn't fat? [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fat-ism-how-many-of-you-are-be-honest ]Clump[/url]

Prejudice is narrow minded and nasty no matter what flavour it comes in.


 
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but then I know a woman called Crystal who is inexplicably not a sex worker, so we shouldn't judge.

She's just lying to you....


 
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[quote=footflaps ]but then I know a woman called Crystal who is inexplicably not a sex worker, so we shouldn't judge.
[s]S[/s]he's just lying to you....
FTFY


 
Posted : 13/10/2016 3:07 pm
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[i]But you knew that already.[/i]
You overestimate my powers of assumption - it was a genuine question, I didn't know what, if anything, the name was supposed to signify.

Others have raised race, and suggested that it is "black" name? I didn't know that, so if you think my post was implying that you were racist (as some of the subsequent posts seem to suggest I may have been) you (and they) are wrong.

OK - my mistake. Apologies.

Having all seen the video when it first appeared, the one thing we knew already about her was that she was black!

In fact I didn't watch the video, so I didn't know her race.


 
Posted : 13/10/2016 4:23 pm
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Yes Shanique is a name which originated from Africa. With an attitude like that you can see why people with "black" names don't get as far.


 
Posted : 13/10/2016 5:05 pm
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let's try it with some different names:

Aoife McDonnell

'nuff said

or

Magda Nowosielecka

'nuff said

or maybe

Shifa Hussein

'nuff said

Yep, looks pretty bad.

It is possible that the OP genuinely didn't know that someone with a name like Shanique Syrena in Britain is very likely to be black. But even then it's still not a great idea to start wellying generalisations like this around.


 
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> http://www.slate.com/articles/business/the_dismal_science/2005/04/a_roshanda_by_any_other_name.html

The data show that, on average, a person with a distinctively black name—whether it is a woman named Imani or a man named DeShawn—does have a worse life outcome .........

Buy we're not talking about financial or educational outcomes.
We're talking about her decency as a human being, specifically, why she behaved like she did.

You seem to be implying that socio economic background has a bearing people's tendency to act like a dickhead.

Classy.


 
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the citation was aimed at zippykona's Astronaut jibe.
But you carry on with [i]seeming[/i] to make assumptions.


 
Posted : 13/10/2016 5:59 pm
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Ah, ok, got you now.

Apologies, without the reference to zippy's post it reads very differently.


 
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She was unlikely to be an astronaut with a name like that

a world population of 7.4 billion and only 49 active astronauts. Everybody's unlikely to be an astronaut - its 10,000 times more likely that you'll be struck by lightning.

I'd wager non of those 49 started their careers as shopkeepers 🙂


 
Posted : 13/10/2016 6:04 pm
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It's a shit name and defines her as a person. She was unlikely to be an astronaut with a name like that


So, what did you mean then?

the same as the cited paper concludes: "shit"* names manifestly [i]dont[/i] define anyone. They may indicate a correlation with other life characteristics, but they don't cause them.

* names that people can draw prejudices on:
Farquharson
Cholmondley Warner
DeShawn
Tyrone
Gideon
Dave
[s]Pete[/s]
etc etc


 
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Thanks for the clarification.

You will be removed from the 'Compulsory Reeducation' list and placed on the 'Slightly Suspicious' one.


 
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You seem to be implying that socio economic background has a bearing people's tendency to act like a dickhead.

If I had to guess it probably does. Millions of exceptions but a tough life tends to harden people and make them more aggressive.


 
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