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Indeed - it is rather a shame that between 1997 and 2010 Labour had spent all the money, maxed out the credit card and caused austerity.
You think that people would understand this and learn, but not everyone does.
Youd think after seeing the damage caused by austerity & it causing the slowest ever recovery from a recession, whilst doubling the national debt, such that Johnson was just elected on a campaign of Keynesian stimulus promises, (too late to reverse the damage wreaked upon the NHS by the last decade)
You'd think that people would understand &learn that austerity was always an idealogical choice that has only made things worse, but not everyone does.
OMFG maxed out the credit card! Ffs
Indeed – it is rather a shame that between 1997 and 2010 Labour had spent all the money, maxed out the credit card and caused austerity.
Not sure if serious.
Indeed – it is rather a shame that between 1997 and 2010 Labour had spent all the money, maxed out the credit card and caused austerity.
You think that people would understand this and learn, but not everyone does.
Utter bilge.
The crash was caused by global issues like sub prime lending in the US. At its highest under labour the UK spent a smaller % of GDP on service than most european countries. Austerity was a political choice in the name of ideology
NHS has been in trouble as long as I can remember, that's over 30 years. I don't think it will ever have the funding some people want. Don't forget even during austerity (in reality it was a real squeeze, not like what's coming due to Brexit and the virus) NHS funding was increased in real terms, just not enough to keep pace with demand. That's the key, the social care sector needs sorting, starting with inheritance,if you won't or can't look after your parents it still needs paying for, their money should go into their care first before you get a nice cash windfall. That would free up more cash for those without. Also need to tackle the rising demand, probably starting with obesity. Little has really been done to reduce that in society.
No, no, you're all getting it wrong. It's perfectly fine to blame the previous global crisis on Labour but you are a disgusting, vile non-patriot if you blame the current global crisis on the Conservatives, or at least their lack of action and poor decision making.
Keir Starmer !!!!
Because there's never been any attempt from the inside of the party to undermine Corbyn...
I suspect this is the tip of the iceberg.
The report also claims Sam Matthews, who served first as Head of Disputes and then as acting Head of the Governance and Legal Unit, "rarely replied or took any action, and the vast majority of times where action did occur, it was prompted by other Labour staff directly chasing this themselves".
It states that there was a failure to develop "detailed or coherent guidelines for investigating complaints based on social media conduct" and a failure to "implement the Macpherson principle of logging and investigating complaints of racism as racism".
Following what the report describes as a "systematic review" of all complaints received between November 2016 to February 2018, it claims investigations were initiated into only 34 of the more than 300 complaints received in relation to antisemitism.
"At least half of these warranted action, many of them in relation to very extreme forms of antisemitism, but were ignored. Almost all of these complaints were forwarded from one inbox to another, and many of them were identified as Labour members and sent to the Head of Disputes, Sam Matthews, for action", the report claims.
In a statement to Sky News responding to the leaked report, Sam Matthews said: "This latest episode comes as no surprise to me, as an effort by a disgruntled faction who are floundering in their attempts to blame others in order to distract from matters that will be investigated by the EHRC and the Courts.
A bad boy did it and ran away.
Article on the report into the 2019 election by Labour group Labour Together
Interesting why so many key people were not interviewed. Can't imagine why.
In other news, an extensive survey has recently concluded that the pope is indeed a Catholic.
Did the report include a total as to how many millions of pounds of union members subs were used to pay off the contracts Jeremy's chums awarded themselves, in their last act of comradely socialism, the week before the election hammering?
Interesting why so many key people were not interviewed.
They are irked that the report’s authors did not interview several key figures, including party directors Karie Murphy and Seumas Milne, the former general secretary Jenny Formby, and Corbyn himself.
Perhaps they had difficulty tracking them down after they'd all trousered their huge pay-offs and ****ed off back to their 3 million pound Islington townhouses to count their money? Maybe they're on holiday in Venezuela? Maybe they're snowed under with requests for work as consultants in how to mastermind successful political campaigns?
Ah it all makes sense now! The prescient labour right knew that nefarious Corbyn and friends would trouser huge pay-offs [citation needed] in 2019, so it is only right that they undermined the party at every turn and fed antisemitism "stories" to the press. Good job!
This would have been quite a good report had it addressed the anti-semitism issue and how it fuelled the very factionalism which they rightly highlight as a major problem. Unfortunately they didn't do that, and as such this report is next to useless as a tool to build the coalition that Ed Miliband is going on about in the papers this morning. It's another piece of evidence that Starmer isn't interested in coalition building and is instead pursuing a scorched earth policy. Very sad, and ultimately a big mistake because this time the left won't sit quiet as they did with Blair. We can probably look forward(?) to a split before the next election. Boris will be very happy.
The prescient labour right knew that nefarious Corbyn and friends would trouser huge pay-offs [citation needed] in 2019
Here you go:
Corbyn Chiefs Milne and Murphy In Line For Pay-Offs Despite Labour’s Election Defeat
And then just to add insult to injury
Labour party staff angry at handling of possible redundancies
We're all in this together, comrade.
Oh... erm... maybe not
Labour pays out a six figure sum to apologise to whistle blowers
stand by for the following :
There is no Labour antisemitism/ big fuss over nothing
Funny how this is news now that the Tories...blah blah blah
Corbyn isn't racist
Jewish controlled right wing media...
Apparently, Jeremy and co are going to legally challenge the outcome.
Here you go. Obviously the one you've been using isn't big enough...
All he had to do was keep his mouth shut.
This won't end well for him but he deserves what's coming.
All he had to do was keep his mouth shut.
It was never really his strong suite.
Bankrupted with legal fees and booted out of the Labour Party? He really isn’t very bright, is he?
Talking of not being very bright, in another ‘you really couldn’t make it up’ irony, Len McCusky has come out and said the settlement was a ‘waste of Labour members fees’.
Not like the union members fees used to fund lavish London flats and lunches at the Ivy, eh Len? That’s all money well spent?
As for McCluskey, his caused a wry smile.
I see he's brought forward his retirement by 12 months; how can he possibly afford it? It's not as if he's fleeced the union for years...
All he had to do was keep his mouth shut.
It was never really his strong suite.
Apart from when we really could of done with him opening his mouth.
Yes, let’s forget the 4 month sabbatical in spring/summer 2016 where he apparently took a Benedictine monk-esque vow of silence.
Still... he’s now signed up for years of amusement in the libel courts and ultimately bankruptcy and being booted out of the Labour Party.
Having read the statement he gave today, he deserves everything he gets. I never really believed he was an antisemite. Just feeble, weak and tolerant of antisemetic views due to his inability of leadership. After reading that and seeing what else has come out in the wash today, I was wrong. He is.
Along with “gifted the Tory party 2 elections and facilitated a hard, far-right no deal Brexit” that’s quite a legacy
*slow handclap for Jeremy*
If the libel case against corbyn goes ahead, I hope for the sake of his finances he's got some sort of insurance/indemnity.
When he stands down at the next election he will have done 40 years; based on his age and length of *service* as an MP his annual pension will be getting up towards his leaving salary and his re-settlement payment will also be close to his salary.
Objectively, has he delivered VFM?
He’s got all his Russia Today and Iranian State TV appearance money. He’ll be reet
If he wants to lose the lot in a protracted pointless libel case, let him get on with it.
He’s never been wrong about anything in his life, remember. Just like all his disciples.
Having read the statement he gave today, he deserves everything he gets. I never really believed he was an antisemite. Just feeble, weak and tolerant of antisemetic views due to his inability of leadership. After reading that and seeing what else has come out in the wash today, I was wrong. He is.
I didn't really believe it either and I think I was wrong. I also thought it was just the fact he was an absolutely dreadful leader but am now seeing that some of the what look like failings may have been deliberate tolerance.
Yes he has always been anti racist with the work and causes etc,. but I suppose you can be anti racist for one group and racist against another.
Just don't read the comments on Corbyn's statement on Facebook... very very depressing... I wish I hadn't.
A McCarthy era witch hunt seems to be the price for someone who speaks truth to power. Please help us fight back:
It is reported that John Ware a reporter for Panorama is taking legal action for libel against former Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn. The relentless attacks on Mr Corbyn, a man of integrity, honesty and humility cannot be allowed to continue and we have an opportunity here to offer him support in a practical way. It will also let him know that his supporters have not forgotten him, nor have they gone away.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/47gyy-jeremy039s-legal-fund
Aim of 20,000 was smashed within days. We've now raised almost a quarter of a million pound.
Just don’t read the comments on Corbyn’s statement on Facebook… very very depressing… I wish I hadn’t.
I have no truck with Corbyn, but Ware's case to sue him personally over his statement following the LP's decision to settle looks pretty weak.
The original response to the Panorama implied bad faith and Ware lacking journalistic integrity. That was actionable, and the Labour Party has rightly settled.
Corbyn's statement (if I'm looking at the right one) is mainly critical of the decision to settle, and merely references what he considers 'inaccurate and misleading' reporting. No-where is the allegation of deliberate bad faith on the part of Ware repeated. Politicians accuse journalists of innacurate and misleading reporting every day, it's the stock-in-trade of rebuttal. Impugning the personal integrity and motivation of the reporter is something different. Corbyn does not do this in the statement.
Labour Party members have a right to accountability and transparency of decisions taken in their name, and an effective commitment from the party to combat antisemitism and racism in all their forms.
The Party’s decision to apologise today and make substantial payments to former staff who sued the party in relation to last year’s Panorama programme is a political decision, not a legal one.
Our legal advice was that the party had a strong defence, and the evidence in the leaked Labour report that is now the subject of an NEC inquiry led by Martin Forde QC strengthened concerns about the role played by some of those who took part in the programme.
The decision to settle these claims in this way is disappointing, and risks giving credibility to misleading and inaccurate allegations about action taken to tackle antisemitism in the Labour Party in recent years.
To give our members the answers and justice they deserve, the inquiry led by Martin Forde must now fully address the evidence the internal report uncovered of racism, sexism, factionalism and obstruction of Labour’s 2017 General Election campaign.
Reading it again, the 'misleading and inaccurate allegations' line does not even specifically refer to Ware's reporting, and I fail to see what it contains that is actionable.
Thanks Martin. Very insightful.
and I fail to see what it contains that is actionable.
You appear to have forgotten your pitch fork. Honestly some people on here should have a serious think because it’s bordering on frothing at the mouth hysteria. Pathetic.
Having read the statement he gave today, he deserves everything he gets. I never really believed he was an antisemite. Just feeble, weak and tolerant of antisemetic views due to his inability of leadership. After reading that and seeing what else has come out in the wash today, I was wrong. He is.
Is there another statement that I haven't seen?
Is there another statement that I haven’t seen?
I had a look around, but could not find anything. I for one would find it helpful if people could at least give a gist of what they are implying/saying and a link if necessary.
This is a general point, not aimed specifically at anyone in particular.
As an aside, with all this suing going on, is not the statement:
Having read the statement he gave today, he deserves everything he gets. I never really believed he was an antisemite. Just feeble, weak and tolerant of antisemetic views due to his inability of leadership. After reading that and seeing what else has come out in the wash today, I was wrong. He is.
rather dogmatic?(I’m struggling for the correct word here. But ‘He is’, doesn’t allow for much wiggle room).
It seems that Jezza could eat a child on live TV and Twitter would still be flooded with idiots posting #StandWithJeremyCorbyn
So they’ve raised a shitload of money to buy him a bigger shovel?
If anyone was ever in any doubt that Corbynism is some kind of weird cult, they won’t be after this week
Hatstand, the lot of them
Wake up and take your blinkers off FFS. The present legal actions being taken against the Labour Party due to the dodgy carry on of Jezza, Seamas and chums is going to cost millions and potentially bankrupt the party
Please feel free to enlighten me as to which socialist agenda this furthers, won’t you? 🙄
The decision to settle these claims in this way is disappointing, and risks giving credibility to misleading and inaccurate allegations about action taken to tackle antisemitism in the Labour Party in recent years.
Reading it again, the ‘misleading and inaccurate allegations’ line does not even specifically refer to Ware’s reporting, and I fail to see what it contains that is actionable.
Sure, must be on about something other than the cases he is commenting on. Makes sense. To someone who just wants to believe that is.
Jezza is currently busy deleting his tweets to Wiley.
Can't say I blame him.
It seems that Jezza could eat a child on live TV and Twitter would still be flooded with idiots posting #StandWithJeremyCorbyn
So they’ve raised a shitload of money to buy him a bigger shovel?
If anyone was ever in any doubt that Corbynism is some kind of weird cult, they won’t be after this week
Hatstand, the lot of them
Ok I'll bite:
Why are people who agree with Mr. Corbyn's politics and ideology "idiots"?
You use the term "Corbynism", but can you define it?
You talk about a "cult", do you therefore feel that all popular politicians have 'cults'?
A McCarthy era witch hunt seems to be the price for someone who speaks truth to power. Please help us fight back:
If that someone is a frequent flyer on RT and Press TV then I would ask which "truth" are they speaking to which "power"
You talk about a “cult”, do you therefore feel that all popular politicians have ‘cults’?
Popular? The most unpopular leader of any political party on record? Even Iain Duncan Smith never came close to magic grandads poll ratings.
Jeremy Corbyn was never very popular with anyone other than a rather small group of oddballs who’s weird devotion to him, no matter what he does, is all a bit David Koresh. If you read all the bullshit from his #StandWithJeremy followers on Twitter you’d think he was the messiah
I mean, seriously.... have they ever watched the Life of Brian? There schtick is truly beyond parody
https://twitter.com/theresistfest1/status/1287118057903661067?s=21
It’s a cult.
popular
/ˈpɒpjʊlə/
adjective
1.
liked or admired by many people or by a particular person or group.
He seems to actually fit the definition. As usual most of what you say is shite and yet you bandy insults about like sweeties. As I seem to recall somebody else saying previously, it’s just so ****ing tiresome.
Any people here mildly supporting him, appear only to suggest he be given a fair hearing (as far as I can see).
I mean, seriously…. have they ever watched the Life of Brian? There schtick is truly beyond parody
Ps if you’d had made it to sixth form you might have mastered how to spell ‘their’, many manage long before that.
To be fair to them, the People’s Front of Judea have raised quarter of a million quid in 24 hours to pay for the pointless and protracted legal battle Grandad is about to lose
Imagine what they could manage if they actually applied themselves to doing something useful?
It’s a cult
A record number of members, And more votes than Blair but of course that doesn’t fit the revisionist scorched earth policy of the right. I almost hope they go bankrupt due to these court cases that the right wingers (ironically) are starting.
Unfortunately Daz, that attitude seems to be fairly typical amongst Corbynites.
They’d happily see the Labour Party go bust, just as they seem to be gleefully cheering the dire financial straits the Guardian is in.
Talk about myopic, deluded and self-absorbed.
Corbyn is in the trouble he is in because of the Labour Party report on antisemitism put together by Jennie Formby that was an out and out hatchet job.
Predictively enough though, they conducted it in the same manner that personified everything else they ever did... with rank incompetence
Which is why they are now the target of multiple legal proceedings. All of which they’ll lose.
There’s a reason Starmer looked to draw a line under this and settle these cases. He knew they were indefensible. After all, as a former DPP he knows a thing or two about the law.
But unfortunately it will be the Labour Party itself, as an organisation, rather than these clowns, that is left to foot the bill for this criminal ineptitude and Self-interested arse covering.
I’d like to see this cabal be held personally financially liable. They’re all millionaires after all.
Solidarity? My arse!