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And it’s pretty clear that you’re one of these simple folk who can’t tell the difference between anti-Zionism, criticism of Israel for its apartheid actions and anti-Semitism.
Perhaps he can't in which case you can help him by explaining how calling Margaret Hodge and Ruth Smeeth were "Zionist cum buckets paid for by Israel" and "pieces of shit" was "criticism of Israel" or "anti-Zionism".
In defence of Corbyn on Brexit, he needs Brexit out of the way as much as Boris does for the same (electoral) reasons. He wouldn't be doing his job as leader if he didn't avoid amendments and try to find a way to allow a few of his MPs to rebel and let the deal sneak through. The fact he's a Brexiteers is not a significant factor to him. Anyone who's been in charge of anything will be aware that when you're the man in the hot seat you put your own prejudices aside.
And it’s pretty clear that you’re one of these simple folk who can’t tell the difference between anti-Zionism, criticism of Israel for its apartheid actions and anti-Semitism.
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Quite a few current and former Labour MPs/ councillors/ activists must be "simple",
Weird that you can say this yet swallow anything written in the Daily Mail
Strange seeing as I don't read it or use the website, as you know what is on/in it you must be a regular visitor/ reader
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1185255941509451777?s=09
I like this poll 😉
Binners to the control room! Corbs needs some 6th form insults quick.
exchanging sexual favours for political advancement this time
no need to bring the Corbyn/Abbot affair into this...
I think we’re struggling with what constitutes ‘doing well’.
I’m a united fan, so by your definition we too are ‘doing well’.
We’re shit! Dire! *ing awful! A shadow of what we once were. Absolutely bloody woeful to watch, devoid of any creativity, direction or belief, sat mid table with the people at the top of the operation absolutely *ing clueless with **** all idea of what to do about it.Just more of the same rudderless drifting, aimlessly clutching at straws*
But when we get battered by Liverpool on Sunday, humiliated by our arch-rivals, and potentially sink into the bottom 3, by your standards we’ll be ‘doing well’
I think that’s what I love most about you Corbynites...
Your ambition
* You’re getting the direct comparison, right? Just checking...
I think we’re struggling with what constitutes ‘doing well’.
I’m a united fan, so by your definition we too are ‘doing well
Because like lots of self appointed experts it's daft to predict exactly what will exactly happen. I'm just pushing against the idea that he's completely finished.
Get it?
I think that’s what I love most about you Corbynites…
Your ambition
The idea that we/I am a Corbynite as some sort of insult doesn't fluster me in the slightest. It takes a long time to change things; especially in the face of folk like yourself a who don't appear to offer any sort of push against what is actually wicked about our country (apart from the fanatical EU love-in). Nothing else seems to matter.
We were very shit before Brexit, we will be very shit after Brexit - as long as the Tories helm the country.
See-the-big-picture.
Absolutely bloody woeful to watch, devoid of any creativity, direction or belief, sat mid table with the people at the top of the operation absolutely *ing clueless with * all idea of what to do about it.Just more of the same rudderless drifting, aimlessly clutching at straws*
I don't do football - the analogy falls apart for me.
No real ideology there either - just thick over paid blokes kicking stuff about.
Not really the same as supporting a political party is it?
If life was this simple?
We were very shit before Brexit, we will be very shit after Brexit – as long as the Tories helm the country.
See-the-big-picture.
Exactly. Brexit is really not that important in the big scheme of things. It is going to happen in one way or another and most people won't even notice that it has, there are a lot of dramatics around it.
The real harm is done by Tory policies and the propaganda that keeps them in power.
Brexit gives the Tories the freedom to do as much harm as they want.
I'd rather a Tory government in the EU over a labour one out of it.
Agreed. And the elephant in the room that is presently keeping them in power, somewhat unbelievably, is an ‘opposition’ that has singularly failed to offer an electable alternative and is about to gift them 5 more years to do god only knows what
I don’t do football – the analogy falls apart for me.No real ideology there either – just thick over paid blokes kicking stuff about.
Sounds like politicians to me.
just thick over paid blokes kicking stuff about.
how do you know they are all thick - that's the soert of generalisation someone like a rascist might make.
The thick ones are those that watch the stupid game...
Brexit gives the Tories the freedom to do as much harm as they want.
except that they can get voted out...
except that they can get voted out…
And voted back in.
Agreed
Wow!
Can I ask the failthful believers how they square the following circle?
Today, whether it passes or not, we are going to watch a group of labour MP's walk through the lobby with the Tories to vote in favour of the most far-right piece of legislation this country has ever seen.
A bill that will enable a Tory government to tear up workers rights, environmental controls and whaever else they fancy, free of the 'shackles of the EU'.
Those labour MP's will all have one thing in common. Corbynites, the lot of them.
Fellow knee-jerk Anti-EU,, 70's throwbacks. Bennite fellow travellors of the beardy messiah who could normally depend on Jeremy trooping through the lobby with them to vote down whatever EU legislation put before them. Voting alongside Mark Francois, Rees-Mogg, John Redwood, Iain Dnuncan Smith and Bill Cash. And but for a clerical error that ended up with him as leader, he'd with them today.
He's tipped them the wink anyway, that there won't be any real consequences. They won't lose the whip.. So its effectively a free vote. In stark contrast to triggering article 50, or voting to stay outside the custome union and the single market
Have a think about that. They're handing the Tories a blank sheet of paper to tear up the achievements of the labour party and turn this country into a sweatshop tax haven. And they're doing so with a tacit nod from the leader of the labour party
How do you explain that one away then? Where does this fit in with your much trumpeted socialist values?
How do you explain that one away then? Where does this fit in with your much trumpeted socialist values?
It doesn't fit with socialist values but Labour being in power with current policies does. The Labour MPs that do allow it are just MPs who chose Labour rather than Labour for any socialist ideals. A few of them have left, still a few more to go.
in favour of the most far-right piece of legislation this country has ever seen.
or far-left if Corbyn gets his greasy hands on power...
it's not far right - it's just your idea of what could happen - but the electorate have the power to vote a government out and change direction - unlike being able to change the direction of the EU as there are too many levels of indirection plus that half-arsed degressive proportionality thing
Those labour MP’s will all have one thing in common. Corbynites, the lot of them.
Go on then. Which ones? Campbell is the only one I know is definitely a Corbyn supporter.
Caroline Flint? Blairite who has repeatedly opposed and questioned Corbyn's leadership
Stephen Kinnock? The same
John Mann? A rabid Corbyn opponent from day one
Mellanie Onn? Resigned from the shadow cabinet to support Owen Smith's leadership challenge
Sarah Champion? Quoted in a documentary criticising Corbyn. "I don’t believe you can be a leader if nobody’s following you"
Lisa Nandy? Served as co-chair of Owen Smith's leadership campaign.
Gloria Del Piero? Resigned from shadow cabinet to support Owen Smith's challenge
Justin Madders? Supported Owen Smith and resigned from shadow cabinet so he could vote against the whip to oppose a second referendum
Kevin Barron? Supported Owen Smith.
Can you spot the pattern? I hate to say Binners but you're talking utter rubbish. Check your facts. Most of the rebels you think prove your hysterical fantasies about Corbyn are on your side. They are the ones enabling a tory brexit, not those on the left.
I hate to say Binners but you’re talking utter rubbish.
Quelle surprise! It's his raison d'etre, talk a load of cods and hope that no one notices.
another day in Corbyn's Labour Party
It's OK she's backed by Momentum
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-lgbt-west-midlands-metro-mayor-homophobic-salma-yaqoob-a9164741.html
"....just thick over paid blokes kicking stuff about...."
Remind you of anywhere? 🙂
https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1186330553806675970?s=19
"Well, these two are only a little bit..."
Remind you of anywhere? 🙂
Ha ha. It was a sweeping statement.
Not every player is Eric Cantona.
John Mann? A rabid Corbyn opponent from day one
For sure.
His agenda is not so much brexit but more destroy Corbyn. Hasn't worked though.
He's going.
Binners cannot reconcile his logic.
I’d rather a Tory government in the EU over a labour one out of
But currently you're getting a Tory government out of the EU.
Why did you miss that one off?
Shah is no angel herself,
But this? Wow.
https://twitter.com/NazShahBfd/status/1186744130808041478?s=19
WTF is wrong with Labour?
[edited] Salma in the LP I see LOL happy days.
WTF is wrong with Labour?
Says Tory Boy!
https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2019/02/17/state-of-hate-2019-conservative-party-islamophobia/
https://order-order.com/2019/10/25/salma-yaqoob-deletes-anti-zionist-tweets/
It's OK Owen Jones and Momentum support her,
the selective deletion of tweets is nothing to do with their contents.....
#NotACult
Nope. Not at all.
https://twitter.com/GeorgeMcManus4/status/1188090956890935296?s=19
The stupid, it burns!
What does the collective think about the rumours that Corbyn had had a stroke?
The fresnel lens in the right eye of his glasses suggests so.
Any truth?
Does having a wonkey eye impair your ability to govern?
If it hints at other brain impairments, yes.
At least the empathy part of his brain is still working well
Interesting dilemma for JC if he has to form a government with help from the SNP in some form.
SNP will only support him in exchange for indyref in year one. If Scotland goes Indy Labour will find it very hard to win future elections.
...but refusing power and triggering another quick election is also a bad look.
At least the empathy part of his brain is still working well
For the many, not the Jew.
For the many, not the Jew.
I see the media have you totally fooled.
If Scotland goes Indy Labour will find it very hard to win future elections.
Have you seen what the Labour party is presently polling north of the border? They're finished. They're a fringe party. Any election victory is going to have to involve seats outside Scotland, because they're history there now.
What does the collective think about the rumours that Corbyn had had a stroke?
Does having a wonkey eye impair your ability to govern?
Most PMs seem to have overcome impediments physical or otherwise.
Churchill government 1951 suffered a stroke in 1953 remained in office until 1955 replaced by Eden.
Eden worst PM of 20th century accused of lying to HoC over Suez. Private life rumored of affairs both he and his wife.
Replaced by McMillan whose wife was having an affair with Boothby over a thirty-year period and possibly the father of Sarah Macmillan. Cabinet included Profumo. Retrospectively he was considered one the most effective post war PMs. Cabinet rife with rivalries and disputes.
He over saw the decolonization process.
Replaced by Alexander Frederick Douglas-Home, Baron Home of the Hirsel. Enough said.
Replaced by Harold 'pound in your pocket' Wilson and his secretary Marsha. Was he a spy was he spied on and destabilized by uk security? Cabinet included George Brown who was a better orator drunk – frequently - than most of today’s politicians sober.
Edward Heath about whom it was rumored but never proved. Brought us the four-day week and membership of CM. PM post swapped between Heath and Wilson.
Jim 'what crisis' Callahan. Winter of discontent paved the way for Thatcher.
More affairs and resignations and dodgy deals. Privatisation Miners strikes Falklands selling off council housing and generally pissing the north sea oil revenues against the wall. And the crowning glory of council tax before they got rid of her.
Followed by Major and Edwina Curry. More sleaze allegations and internal party squabbles over Maastricht and yet more privatisation.
Blair short golden period then same old same old dodgy dealings and wars.
Brown, Cameron , May, fill in your own reasons.
Johnson a drunk and a coke head being held hostage by erg. Serial philanderer and liar.
AKA Boris Piccaninny Watermelon Letterbox Cake Bumboys Vampires Haircut Wall-Spaffer Spunk-Burster ****-Business ****-the-Families Get-Off-My-****ing-Laptop Girly-Swot Big-Girl’s-Blouse Chicken-frit Hulk-Smash Noseringed-Crusties Death-Humbug Technology-Lessons Surrender-Bullshit French-Turds Get-Stuffed FactcheckUK@CCHQ Johnson according to Stewart Lee.
So when was this golden period when our politicians where fit and able as leaders of this country besides never?
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What does the collective think about the rumours that Corbyn had had a stroke?
I think people should be less obvious about nicking ideas from the Trump campaign.
The fresnel lens in the right eye of his glasses suggests so.
These lenses are mostly fitted to correct double vision, which is mostly (not exclusively) muscle related. Seems to be a more likely explanation