What if most of that client's potential customers also think the solution you've proposed is proper bobbins?
Having a 'great' product you can't sell pretty much sums up nationalised industries, British Steel badly suffered from this problem, so maybe it that is a better anology than you realised.
"Someone's been sitting in my chair," growled the Papa bear...
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-corbyn-ram-packed-virgin-8901399
[url= https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/sep/23/andy-burnham-jeremy-corbyns-labour-leadership-call-for-unity ]Andy Burnham's going off script. Hasn't he read the memo about 6th form trots and placard waving revolutionaries?[/url]
Andy Burnham saying MPs should serve in the Shadow Cabinet even though he's "doing a runner" ? Opportunistic
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Red tory innit.
And binners' faith school chum - keeping everyone sweet for his Manchester mayoral ambitions.
Andy Burnham has served under Corbyn from beginning to now, and managed to not complain to the media, resign on telly etc. Asking others to do the same is hardly opportunistic is it? Its the opposite really.
My point was he is stepping away from serving in Shadow Cabinet yet asking others to do the same.
Just when you don't need it Ken Livingstone pops up to make a "personal film" for BBC's This Week endorsing Corbyn and a deselection.process
[url= http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-37452214 ]BBC[/url]
allthepies - Member
big_n_daft said »> http://philwoodfordsseachange.blogspot.co.uk
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Red tory innit.
Thanks for that incisive, considered and well researched analysis.
Did you actually read the blog or did you just immediately turn into a jerking knee at the sight of his name?
big_n_daft - Member
http://philwoodfordsseachange.blogspot.co.uk
Splitter!
(Am I allowed to use that when referring to critics of Corbyn, or is that against the rules?)
Also:
The people who support the veteran MP for Islington North are either cynical ultra-leftists who have no interest in Labour’s representation in Parliament or they are people sanctimoniously wedded to the idea that permanent opposition is a price worth paying for a range of abstract principles
Well, uh, ix-nay on the condescension-ay there, Chet.
Andy Burnham has served under Corbyn from beginning to now, and managed to not complain to the media, resign on telly etc. Asking others to do the same is hardly opportunistic is it? Its the opposite really.
This. He's one of the few who hasn't (publicly) taken sides in all this. Just kept this head down. You could say that in doing so, and also engineering his (probably temporary) absence from Westminster while this whole sorry mess plays itself out, he's the only one in the Party presently worthy of the title 'politician'. He's been a lot shrewder and more politically savvy than anyone else. Playing a longer game.
He'll walk the Mayoral election. And when he does I expect he'll probably be a greater PITA to the Tory's than the shambolic Westminster Labour front bench. Its also worth noting that he wasn't the preferred mayoral candidate for Jezza and his union chums. The utterly corrupt and useless Tony Lloyd was.
Andy was just on Radio 4 this morning. He still wasn't taking sides. As a testament to his scouse roots, it seems like he was just telling everyone to...
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🙂 Keep Calm and Carry On is a decent enough slogan if you are heading in the right direction.
Not good reading in the Indy, some poll results on Corbyn specific questions.
Worryingly for Labour, just 22 per cent of working-class people thought Mr Corbyn “in touch with voters”, while 42 per cent said he is “out of touch” and 36 per cent did not know.Asked if people thought him “competent” or “incompetent”, working-class voters again gave an unsettling response. More than a third, 36 per cent, went for incompetent, only 26 per cent went for competent and 38 per cent did not know. That compared with 32 per cent of ABC1 middle-class voters who were prepared to say the Labour leader was “competent”.
[url= http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-leadership-results-live-jeremy-corbyn-owen-smith-poll-incompetent-working-class-voters-a7326486.html ]Indy: Corby not seen as competent by the working class[/url]
Now the people who intend to vote for him think he's competant, those are the people in the room on Ken Loach's film
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Type 'how to leave' into Google and see what the auto complete suggestion is 😯 😆
Type 'how to leave' into Google and see what the auto complete suggestion is
try "how to j" 😀
Google autocomplete uses your search history as an input
Only if their is some, otherwise it uses everyone else's.
the eton mafia are taking this very very seriously..
they must be spending a small fortune on manning the digital dissemination campaign
dunno if it's funny or sad or a bit sinister that they've even gone to the trouble of boosting google searches and whatnot... S'all very spychological innit!!
Forget the sicilians... our insidious lot are criminal geniuses!!
they must be very worried at the moment though
I just hope that we get to see them taken down in our lifetime
[url= https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/24/i-fought-labour-hard-left-1980s-now-back-corbyn-neil-kinnock-same-hostility ]Someone who actually gets it.[/url]
He's been a lot shrewder and more politically savvy than anyone else. Playing a longer game.
Completely agree. I'm sure Burnham has a long term plan which may involve him standing again in future. Whether he's being politically savvy or genuinely putting the party first, he's been a model of how to act and behave behind a leader you disagree with and don't instinctively support. I can only hope some of his senior colleagues follow his example. I'm pretty sure that if they do, the polls will turn around and the commentary of failure might change into one of 'what if?'.
[url= https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/23/labour-party-two-choices-marketing-movement-building ]Someone else who gets it[/url]
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Champagne corks popping in tory hq! 😆
Sneer, sneer, sneer.
But Corbyn increases majority. Waiting for the breakdown of votes.
some poll results on Corbyn specific questions.
Since that's the message that has been relentlessly pumped out by every media organisation from Murdoch to the state media outlet it would be astonishing if the answers were different.
Whether he's being politically savvy or genuinely putting the party first, he's been a model of how to act and behave behind a leader you disagree with and don't instinctively support. I can only hope some of his senior colleagues follow his example.
Agreed its now down to the PLP to step up as he just increased his mandate and they really do need to respect this or realise they are out of kilter with the party
WHether they can win is a debatable point
There is no debate about whether they will perform better with their support /participation than a continuation of this
They really will destroy the party if they continue to ignore it
As for breakdown I imagine he won them all again except MP's with an increased majority
Very good interview with Ken Loach on R4. Re Labour he said recent Labour MP's had completely forgotten what Labour is supposed to be about (supporting the oppressed working class)....
Imo...the tide is turning...people have had enough of being dicked over by the most powerful... JC is not the answer, but finally someone in government has a voice that challenges the neo liberal order...
Todays a good day...
yunki - Member
the eton mafia are taking this very very seriously..
Seriously?
Last I looked, the Head Girl had given them all the boot.
Do keep up.
Lifer - Member
Sneer, sneer, sneer.But Corbyn increases majority.
A fine example of "La la la la I'm not listening" politics.
Majority of what?
Not the electorate...
Majority of what?
Not the electorate...
No. As per jamba, the way to do that is to blame foreigners, bring back hanging and memorise the names of light entertainers.
Well he could only increase it amongst those who voted and he did
I'm not on about the dippit shites that we have to endure on the telly and in the papers woppit
they're just the public face of the whole scam... the PR exercise
red ones blue ones, bottom rung scapegoats, footsoldiers
it's the capo's and the consiglieres pulling the strings that get all fidgety when they see the sort of shake-up that corbyn's labour would produce
Isn't it amazing how the rhetoric of the "Left" matches almost exactly the rhetoric of the "Right"?
(Neo) Liberal elites, biased press, conspiracies against, dubious organisations as friends...
Tweedledum and Tweedledee.
Meanwhile, the electorate just goes for what looks like the most sensible bunch of politicians who look like they're at least half capable of running stuff and keeping the ship afloat for the benefit of the nation as a whole, not any "class" in particular.
Hasn't the old boy done well!
Congrats Jezza - some achievement
Seems an appropriate time to revisit my OP
teamhurtmore - Member
So by latest accounts, Jezza is doing a pretty good job and may be appointed our next leader of the opposition. Well done to him.So what will the next name be
New, new labour
New, old labour
Retro labour
Hard labourOk not the last one but.....
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it's the capo's and the consiglieres pulling the strings that get all fidgety when they see the sort of shake-up that corbyn's labour would produce
Capos? Consiglieres?
Oh, you mean the leaders and organisers and contributors of other parties than Labour under JeremyJeremy. Which of course doesn't have any of these.
Grow up.
I think you'll find the other "Capos" are too busy laughing their faces off to be "fidgety" about the Toytown Chavez Fanclub on the opposite benches.
ooooh
you're so masterful when you've got your knickers in a twist woppit 🙂
Some people are clearly rattled.... 😀
170 Labour mps?
Today we celebrate, but tomorrow we continue the long journey towards a fairer, more equal and more prosperous future for all.
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Breakdown of votes would suggest that the fewer of 'cuckoos' like him than last time, but he is now even more popular amongst real party members. I am genuinely suprised about this.
A microcosm of this would be my local Labour Party: most but not quite all of our labour councillors backed Smith yet locally the support for Corbyn amongst the regular members and trade unions is very high: no local breakdown yet but I expect our local vote if it is measurable will be well over 61.8%
Today we celebrate, but tomorrow we continue the long journey towards a fairer, more equal and more prosperous future for all.
Theresa May?
Champagne corks popping in tory hq!
Get In. 🙂 🙂
Well I'll certainly be raising a glass tonight in celebration, still on the Rose though as the weather is nice and it's cheap. Off now to the Arabic Street Party in our neighbourhood in a joyful mood.
170 Labour mps?
That was my estimate 12 months ago, I have since revised down to 150 and now 125 post boundary changes.
Today we celebrate, but tomorrow we continue the long journey towards a fairer, more equal [s]and more prosperous[/s] future for all.
Under Corbyn everyone will be poorer but it will be a more equal society when anyone with a good business idea sets up elsewhere and anyone with money just moves it offshore or simply leaves.
Can't believe you don't follow Corbyn on Facebook, 5th. 😛 (For that is where it's lifted from).
when anyone with a good business idea sets up elsewhere and anyone with money just moves it offshore or simply leaves
a sort of weeding out of the greedy and the self centred?
a deep cleanse of the moral fibre of British society?
fewer self important tossers clagging up the trails?
sounds like a plan! 🙂
Forgive me for i have sinned. Help me back to the path to the right. I too want to be a part of the party that will make me rich at the expense of the poorer in society. I don't mind the increase in suicides, the closing of bus services in rural areas that affect health and wellbeing of older people, the closing of libraries and other spaces for education...because I will be richer than you and I am truly worth it....please help me not care aout other members of society. .