*sigh*
Chewkw - you're on his ignore list; you understand what that means, no?
Ever the optimist I think whoever the Tories elect to lead next election will be not as electable as CMD.
Good point. Cameron's not a vote gathering machine of Blair's calibre, but he's good, and almost certainly better in vote winning terms than anyone in the running to replace him.
Is still don't think it will be enough. The Labour Party have consciously walked away from all the votes, and I don't think it's been about "doing the right thing" at all - e.g. is the idea of running Trident without warheads for the good of the country, or for the good of the labour party?
Cameron and Osbourne want to do business with one of the worlds[s]largest and most influential economies[/s] most repressive regimes in the world with a terrible human rights records- actually to be fair they want to do business with all the really shit regimes- see also Saudi. if they [s]where smarter[/s]had any morals they would [s]introduce controlled immigration and encourage super smart and hardworking Chinese to come to the UK to boost our economy[/s]not be selling things like our nuclear power plants to a regime like this.
TBH i assume most people/almost everyone is not comfortable with this and I assume almost no one will suggest it shows their brilliance. What is shows, like you, is that you value money above things like morality, principles and doing the right thing.
Nice use of tabloid language- I assume you will be sending your wife back and stopping living in all those foreign countries or is it everyone else who is the tsunami and not you and your family who have done the exact same thing. You wear the hypocrisy and language of Farage rather well. Do you drink as much ? Might explain your posts ?vote has to be before next tsunami of immigrants
I like the way your posts argues for immigration and against it in the same post. An appeal to your own authority would have earned you higher marks but a generous 7 for the effort,
Chewkw - you're on his ignore list; you understand what that means, no?
SIGH - you expect rational and logical behaviour from chewkw 😉
His posts are incomprehensible gibberish. I suspect that one was.
Jamby only avoids it because his posts are often hilarious.
I'm still not hearing any optimism.
I honestly don't know if it'll work or not.
But that does not stop me voting for him. How's that for optimism?
I'm still not hearing any optimism.
Why is optimism required to vote for him/labour? Your comment suggests that voting for someone who you think might not win is somehow wrong or stupid. Like I said, it's not a sport. Surely you understand this?
If no-one votes for who they want because they think that person might not win, then the whole concept of democracy is totally buggered, isn't it?
squirrelking - Member*sigh*
Chewkw - you're on his ignore list; you understand what that means, no?
A bit like Michael Jackson saying, in his voice, "They are ignorant, they are ignorant!" ... yes?
Are you ignorant yourself? If not why do you think so?
Junkyard - lazarus
Chewkw - you're on his ignore list; you understand what that means, no?
SIGH - you expect rational and logical behaviour from chewkwHis posts are incomprehensible gibberish. I suspect that one was.
Jamby only avoids it because his posts are often hilarious.
Rational and logical from a person who cannot even answer me a simple question?
Ya, I see you coming and I told you so.
Lefties ... 😆
Tactical voting is the practice of blithering morons and is the antithesis of our so called democracy..
It should be a criminal offence
He's so quiet now that I think he's in danger of becoming an irrelevance. If this was a rugby match the possession stats would be stacked in the Tories favour, with every hit slowly weakening the Labour defence. The split Labour dressing room hampering their ability to take the fight back to the opposition.
Well that is exactly how it would read in the Tory fanyboy weekly editorial you write
I am sure jamby will approve - though he will be upset you did not say quiet and old
He's so quiet now that I think he's in danger of becoming an irrelevance.
Only if you're a political hack who has column inches and airtime to fill. Whilst you lot obsess about irrelevant point scoring on the news, he's getting on the with the job he was elected to do. Which is preparing the labour party for future elections by transforming the tired old new labour-formula of managerialism and playing the percentages into something that people can again believe in.
Has any one told him that?
I think they tried but they have not been patronising enough to him yet for him to get it
Are you free later to have a go ?
encourage super smart and hardworking Chinese to come to the UK to boost our economy.
Well, I lolled.
Corbyn's supporter group Momentum have been directly linked to anti-semitic attacks at Oxford University (under the guise of the BDS campaign) so says the head of Oxford Student Labour Group. He also noted the aggressive Stalinist/Marxist purge tactics the group has been using to silence Corbyn's critics within the Labour group.
Whats BDM and what Stalinist purge tactics have been used?
AA - I think they've set up a gulag in Banbury
The Daily Mash has only just made it to my part of Wales but this made me chuckle.
AA - I think they've set up a gulag in Banbury
The movie of some escapies walking all the way to freedom in Reading wont be half as good!
So with the tories in disarray over Europe, and an open goal gaping before them on this and other issues such as the doctors strike, teacher shortages etc. What do the Blairite side of the labour party do? [url= http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/mar/09/dan-jarvis-vision-for-labour-leadership-talk-corbyn-challenge ]Stir up more rumours and trouble about leadership challenges[/url]. And they still wonder why the membership support Corbyn.
Did you see Corbyn had deleted all his personal blogs on his webpage ? Including all those that where highly critical of the EU and consistent with his public stance before becooming leader. Fortunately these have been saved offline by journalists who are able to refer back and quote at will
Also following the resignation of Oxford Uni Labour Group after agressive infoitration from Momentum and amidst allegations of anti-semitism by activists targetting Jewish stidents the Labour party commission an investigation with the promise of publishing it buy the end of February. This never happened as rumours are the investigation confirmed Momentum is anti-semttic so senior Labour figures (upto and including Corbyn) buried the report by delaying its publication and briadening its scope. Objective to push any publication to after the Scottish elections. This has seen condemnation from Labour figures, UK and US press.
@daz if Labour where serious about defeating the Tories they wouldn't have elected someone as leader who cannot win a General Election.
This never happened as rumours are the investigation confirmed Momentum is anti-semttic
Of course I'm sure whoever was doing the investigating had no ulterior motive in seeking to discredit Momentum or Corbyn? To be honest I have no real opinion on all this trotskyist claptrap. It's the easiest thing in the world for Corbyn's critics to make claims about entryism, infiltration, anti-semitism etc. Maybe instead of obsessing about how to ignore the overwhelming democratic decision of the labour party to elect Corbyn, they would be better off working with him and others to make the case against the tories and take advantage of the huge opportunities that are currently presenting themselves.
And really, 'tough on inequality, tough on the causes of inequality'? Is that really the best they can come up with? 😀
Yeah it's a dud candidate and a dud catchphrase too
It'll fall flat though, even the corb hating press are far more interested in whether Gove was making stuff up about the queen and the referendum
This thread is pointless without Comrade Ernesto's inspirational insight.
I can imagine the viz top tip just now...
Feeling a bit blue today? Did the butler let your toast go cold before he brought it to you? Throw a communist jibe in the direction of the red team to brighten up your day.
Marxist not communist, keep up dear boy. My head butler has run off with one of my scullery maids... but my point still stands.
[url= http://www.buzzfeed.com/jamieross/yeah-youre-making-me-a-crazy-chick#.nujxRPR5p ]The JC4PM event in Scotland was a bit of a car crash[/url] 😉
Stir up more rumours and trouble about leadership challenges
The only substantial direct quote I can find is this rabid hysterical nonsense:
“It’s a false choice to say we must either champion Labour’s record in government or denounce it,” he will say. “The truth is we should defend our achievements and learn from our mistakes.”
How dare he!
@daz I'd hope the investigation was trying to get the facts about Momentum / Student Labour's involvement on the attacks on Jews whuch have taken place at the Uni.
@ben, perhaps Scottish Labour where praising the SNP for running up a "proper" deficit 🙂 In fairness I can't see Charlotte Church being a massive tcket seller, half full was a result !
the attacks on Jews whuch have taken place at the Uni.
Really, Attacks at the uni, Is that a fact?
Is that a fact?
It would appear to be on this occasion.
While it seems that some labour students have apoarently been saying some very unpleasant and offensive things and indulging in anti jewish conspiracy theories. Theres no mention anywhere of any attacks.
So not actually a fact at all.
Unless anyone can provide a genuine source ?
Kimbers read the press reports including the allegations from other Labour Party activists. The report was commissioned by "HQ". @mefty went to Oxford so I imagine he's been keeping upmwith the story as have I. I wrote to my old college to express my disgust. EDIT: you seem to be reading attack to mean purely physical violence (I undersand there has been some of that too)
Sadly many individuals cannot differentiate between their dissaproval of US foreign policy and the actions of the State of Israel and the Jewish people. Likewise Corbyn with his serious errors of judgement with regard to the IRA, Hezbollah and Hamas.
It has been alleged that another OULC member organised a group of students to harass a Jewish student and to shout “filthy Zionist” whenever they saw her.
[url= http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/18/oxford-student-left-antisemitic-university-antisemitism-jewish-progressive-politics ]Revised link[/url]
(I undersand there has been some of that too)
Please if you have be any proof of that lay it before us...
Ive seen the list of incidents that the Oxford Jewish Soc
https://m.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=217291595285988&id=100010154474702&__tn__=%2As
Pretty horrible and I'd expect any students to be kicked out that were abusing someone
The only attack I can see would be where they conspired to call a girl a 'filthy zionist'. If they were verbally abusing someone im surprised no one has been arrested ?
You have been presented with sources for allegations of attacks as requested - are you trying to doubt those allegations now?
As I said I linked to those allegations myself
And yes they do constitute racial abuse and verbal attacks, that warrant investigation and quite possibly criminal charges
I was referring to jambas assertion that there had been physical violence too ?
But he didn't assert that they were physical, he just mentioned attacks, the verbal haranguing would constitute one.
His exact words...
be reading attack to mean purely physical violence (I undersand there has been some of that too)
Sorry I had not read that post through to the end, I was basing it on the initial assertion for which you requested sources which I provided - that was what was confusing - I have seen nothing about physical attacks in the press which is my only source of information.
I did read his use of attacks to mean physical initially
He only claimed there were physical attacks later
Completely agree that racism has no place, especially at uni
Do you know if the police have investigated this, it does sound like it warrants it