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Good luck Kit ..
I've got to admit that I haven't read all the posts before jumping on this thread so I don't know if anyone has suggested this as a "product " ..but on a bothy night last year one of our number produced a bottle of sloe Whisky which he had made himself ..now I have previously tried a Gin version and loved it ..but this was something else ..and although I'm not a huge spirit drinker ..I would buy a version of this if it was available ..
Hope it doesn't sound too daft ..
[i]That's mad. What if they say no?[/i]
They give you feedback at that point for you to implement, and work with you to ensure your compliance. Seem very rare, though. When you're chucking 6 figures at a project, you're likely to do plenty of research into what will satisfy them, and make sure you get it done. So, risky in terms of possible delays, but probably not in ultimately getting something going.
[b]hodgynd[/b], if you're meaning a sloe rum, then [url= https://www.beachcraftspirits.co.uk/ ]Beach Craft Spirits[/url] already make one. If you're talking about a sloe whisky, I won't be making whisky, sorry!
big_n_daft, OK thank you. I'd looked at the SEPA exemptions and didn't know what counted as 'Distillery Waste', so will get a formal clarification. For land spreading, it's up to the farmer. I'll provide him with an analysis of the waste and leave it to him to make that call. He's a conscientious guy, so I've no worries there. But we also have a local AD who might be interested. Interested to know how you know so much about this; do you work for SEPA? If you've got the time to spare, I'm free 23rd. Email me Kit[dot]Carruthers[@]gmail[dot]com. cheers.
Apologies missed this.
I'm not in SEPA, I have some relevant current industry experience, just not saying what industry....
Email me on t _ interweb AT outlook DOT com
Also get details of the deployments by the farmer, and the occasional lab analysis. Its insurance against a later claim
So, risky in terms of possible delays, but probably not in ultimately getting something going.
Gotcha. That makes more sense, ta.
Contagious to come up with a design?
Had to read that a few times 🙂
[reports for swear filter avoidance]
Sounds great Kit, nice to see something down "home" going forward. Although I have lived in Edinburgh, 22yrs Annan and indeed Dumfriesshire will always be home.
Love the story about the Nerf things on the window of the Shed! I think I met JamesMio on a stag do in Tignes years back too. Haha
All the best and when you are selling something let us know in here and I will buy!
Cheers!
I'm starting the MSc in Brewing and Distilling at Heriot Watt... em, tomorrow!
So I like approve of this thread.
Keep in touch! Depending how you get on, I might be looking for some work experience/placement next year.
Also, not sure if you've had any thoughts on distribution yet, but a good friend of mine owns a spirits distribution company - I can put you in touch.
Kit ..sorry I jumped in without reading the fact that you were set to make rum ..
I did mean a sloe whisky ..and it was delicious ..maybe someone else will pick up on it 😀
Good luck with your venture ..all the best ..
Quite a few distillerys popping up http://craftydistillery.com/
http://www.solwayspirits.co.uk/spirits.html
Ride with jamesmio and Katie on a Tues @Ae....
UPDATE 14/9/17
Got some good news today! Two grant applications came good, worth £55k, on top of a previous grant award. Still only a fraction of the cost of the whole thing, but it all massively helps.
The building is now clear and ready for the joiner and builder to come in and remove the roof, demolish the gable wall, and grub out the floor. Still haven't got my planning permission, but should be forthcoming by the end of the month. Work should start beginning of October, all being well!
Some photos below of the current state of the place. The lower, older building will be the distillery, and is due the major works. The larger, newer building will be my bonded warehouse, and have only minor repairs (mainly to make it secure!).
[b]sas78[/b] I was 18 years in Edinburgh. Still adjusting to being back down here! And glad you've committed before even tasting the stuff 😉
[b]yourguitarhero[/b] I was speaking to Annie Hill yesterday and she said that the MSc course had started. There's 100 of you, is that right? Mad! Happy to accommodate you next year, if I can. Pester me around March time, if I forget to drop you a line.
[b]Trekster[/b], you mentioned Ae rides. I must try and come along one evening, before it gets dark (no lights).
[url= https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4409/37227024285_66109ef2a3_z.jp g" target="_blank">https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4409/37227024285_66109ef2a3_z.jp g"/> [/img][/url][url= https://flic.kr/p/YHCemi ]Big byre, little byre[/url] by [url= https://www.flickr.com/photos/gingerfox/ ]Kit Carruthers[/url], on Flickr
[url= https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4340/36829095850_36fdef92c5_z.jp g" target="_blank">https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4340/36829095850_36fdef92c5_z.jp g"/> [/img][/url][url= https://flic.kr/p/Y7sK6d ]Main entrance[/url] by [url= https://www.flickr.com/photos/gingerfox/ ]Kit Carruthers[/url], on Flickr
[url= https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4363/36389480584_bc7eb924e4_z.jp g" target="_blank">https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4363/36389480584_bc7eb924e4_z.jp g"/> [/img][/url][url= https://flic.kr/p/XrBAME ]Small byre inside[/url] by [url= https://www.flickr.com/photos/gingerfox/ ]Kit Carruthers[/url], on Flickr
I think there is 130 students this year.
A very international mix - lots of Europeans, Americans, Indian and Chinese students, and lots of women too - more than I expected.
The building is now clear and ready for the joiner and builder to come in and remove the roof, demolish the gable wall, and grub out the floor. Still haven't got my planning permission, but should be forthcoming by the end of the month. Work should start beginning of October, all being well!
remember as the project includes demolition it may well be notifiable under CDM Regs
Some photos below of the current state of the place. The lower, older building will be the distillery, and is due the major works. The larger, newer building will be my bonded warehouse, and have only minor repairs (mainly to make it secure!).
I would go for really tall stills, then you have a claim to be the "-est" in something
check how much you can store before COMAH kicks in
everything will turn black due to fungus over time
I'd try to get to Inchdairnie, it's new and built as a modern distillery rather than twee
for a laugh
https://gearjunkie.com/bike-made-whisky-barrels-glenmorangie-renovo
UPDATE 23/11/17
Well, my last update was a little optimistic... I finally got my planning permission a couple of weeks ago (yay!) but that only just followed putting in for building warrant. I can't start any work on the building until that comes back in the affirmative, which could be January (or later 🙁 ).
But planning permission is great news. It means I'm [i]definitely[/i] doing this!
So [b]Ninefold Distillery [/b]will be producing sometime next spring/summer! Shiny logo to accompany it, based on our family crest:
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And also got myself online at:
www.ninefolddistillery.com (holding page at the mo)
...and the usual social media places, if you do a search for Ninefold Distillery. Don't want to upset the mods with advertising 😉
That looks excellent, well done on investing in a decent designer!
remember as the project includes demolition it may well be notifiable under CDM Regs
Unless the work is going on for more than 30 days then it's not. It is being at least aware of CDM on something this size though so you can ask whoever you get to do the work to be on top of it on your behalf.
Aye, I could do the demo work I need to do, but then I'd be left with an exposed soil and no roof over the winter. Plus I'm not convinced the walls will hold up too well without the gable end and roof. Certainly the structural engineer doesn't want to rest the new roof on the existing walls!
The marque has come out great, and certainly worth the money! Particularly when half of it was paid for with a grant. Or will be when I put the claim in...
UPDATE 16/01/18
Not much more on the building front, however... I gone done a vlog! Pretty terrifying. I had to learn how to: shoot video on my camera; fly a drone; be comfortable looking at and listening to myself over and over again during editing; edit; all the social media stuff for videos.
Feedback welcome, even if you hate it!
Next time have a crib sheet of topics pinned underneath your camera so you can drop the 'err's' by not having to think about the next point. A pause is better than an 'err'. Looks a really interesting project which I would happily watch without the err, .. err's.
You can always cut and retake if you pause and you have other footage to put in. That's the beauty of b-roll, you can stop and start as many times as you like if you have something to cut to.
You can always show a bit of footage with VO as the building and setting is half the story (you being the other half)
Look forward to seeing the update.
Bit random, but won't the forklift hit the metal joists in the bonding warehouse?
Good video though.
honest review?
It's you umming and erring in an a cold empty barn. I'd save the footage and do a piece when you've got something to show off. Sort of; this is what I started with, this is what it looks like now!
Good luck with it. 😀
I would echo thoughts above but would add less is more - lovely nice shots, intro to you and the new project, job done. 2mins. Maximum.
(I can see all our videos at work - folk get bored past 2-3 mins...)
I see there are projects working with you at uni!
Thanks for the feedback!
I doubt that I can get rid of the um and ers, it's a habit that I've never been able to break, despite plenty of public speaking. I'd tried to write a script but I couldn't read it 😆 Maybe some big bullet points next time... I shot a whole day of stuff and went back to reshoot, intending to be in the same clothes so that I could cut stuff together as needed. But Day 2 was ****ing baltic so I ended up with the jacket and gloves, and just worked with what I got.
Lots was cut out, and I'm sure subsequent vids will be shorter. I know people have a crap attention span. I won't, however, be waiting until I've got something to 'show'. The whole point of the vlog was to show progress from barn to distillery. So major milestones in building work, the kit arriving, etc.
It's a massive learning curve: teaching myself how my camera does video, talking to camera, aerial footage, editing, etc. is all brand new to me. But glad it's, um, mostly positive, er, feedback.
News to me! I had two last year, maybe that's what you've spotted.I see there are projects working with you at uni!
Also when you lock the camera off turn off the AF you can see it hunting while you are talking, it's very distracting.
Have you tried flying your drone through the building yet? Saves on buying a dolly or slider 😆
[quote=Kit ]
I see there are projects working with you at uni!News to me! I had two last year, maybe that's what you've spotted.
Are you Dumfriesshire Rum?
Unless there's another rum distillery on the go that I don't know about, then yes I am 'Dumfriesshire Rum'!
Can you email me kit@ninefolddistillery.com with the details of the projects, please?
Don’t forget to send some STW Towers as thank you for promotion, mods probably wouldn’t say no too. 😀
I wondered how far I could push it 😆
Kit - mailed you the details.
Also, I'm not sure if you've looked at your distribution yet, but I have a friend who runs a distributors based out of Edinburgh. I can put you in touch if you'd like? He's very knowledgeable - a chat can never hurt.
Turns out, I may also be getting into the spirits production game....
Yeah, I noticed this afterwards too, and it's hunting like that because at whatever crazy small aperture it was working at, it'll be trying to AF by contrast detect, rather than the smoother/faster phase detect AF.Also when you lock the camera off turn off the AF you can see it hunting while you are talking, it's very distracting.
Anyway, "[i] Saves on buying a dolly or slider[/i]" only if I don't crash it! I flew it around inside the bigger building and it was slightly terrifying 😯
UPDATE 4/3/18
*whispers in case the mods hear*
Building work has begun...
More vids online...
*slinks off again*
Big thumbs up. Good wishes mate.
Nice one, what's the eta for the first pour 😉 just enjoying some of the fine Tassie spirits I snuck out when I left so need something new to try
Great to see your progress, keep up the good work and I look forward to trying the final product, Im a big rum fan!
You need to hope that the HSE don't see the video of the roof demolition, the scaffolding was a joke
I suggest you get a CSCS card and mug up on CDM as well
The youtube videos are getting better. Have a look at Mick Grewcock, for one man in a shed he achieves very high production quality
First pour might be in the summer. July, maybe? Having a small nightmare with my intended distilling equipment!
I have a CSCS card, and have read up on CDM.
Production quality = time + equipment + energy. I'm short of two and making do with the other.
any samples for the stw massive?
Not yet, maybe in a few months 😉
I suggest you look at the working at height bit again if you are signing off on risk assessments and method statements
Alternatively don't film it for YouTube
Two years on from starting this thread, and I distilled my first rum yesterday 🙂
Thought folk might be interested, since it's been a while since I posted!
Awesome news!!
Have you thought of a snappy name for your new product?
What about “Repentance “
What about “Repentance “
I read that as 'Temperance' and thought it an odd suggestion 😉
How do we acquire a bottle of your finest?
Have you thought of a snappy name for your new product?
Baby Robin.
Congratulations Kit.