[Closed] Israel's Netanyahu sparks uproar by suggesting WWII-era Palestinian leader inspi

i wouldnt expect any less from that zionist devil....they'll say anything to justify their evil treatment of the Palestinians...always the victim eh?

Poor misunderstood Hitler.

"mufti". S****.

When even your own historians are discrediting you it's probably time to give it up.....Considering his tactics during the election last year I think Netanyahu is becoming more and more dangerous.

I totally despair of any nation that could democratically elect a man like Benjamin Netanyahu. He's a truly vile human being. He seems to delight in whipping up paranoia and fear, to justify his next bout of genocide.

Ironic that he's using Hitler to justify it

He does it to say in power, the small extreme parties in the coalition love this and keep the Americans on board. History will mark his as a monster.

A quick look at his Wiki page, he has a fascinating history. Compare with some one like Cameron he is one tough/loony man

Trivialising the holocaust like only a Zionist can.

The story is absolute cobblers. The Grand Mufti was certainly one of the assorted lunatics and scumbags that showed up in Berlin during the Holocaust - but there is no evidence that the Nazis ever paid much attention to him. And why would they? He was the spiritual leader (ie not political) of a proportion of a small people (many Palestinians being Christians) far away and living under a fairly well-dug in British occupation (there being not much indigenous organised opposition to the regime for the nazis to exploit - Palestine was not Ukraine with a ready made bunch of collaborators). The nazis opinion of the GM's pronouncements seems to have been along the lines of "WGAS?"

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/dumping-blame-for-the-holocaust-on-the-grand-mufti-is-an-insult-to-its-six-million-victims-9587755.html

is there a world politics equivalent of godwin's law?

Notter - Member

When even your own historians are discrediting you it's probably time to give it up....

His own security services discredited him re Iran, he didn't seem to mind.

Does anyone really think the Prime Minister of Israel would trivialise the holocaust, really even for just a second do you believe that ? Netanyahu's right wing political opponents in Israel have generated this story, would you rather they where running the show ?

Fair point Northwind!! So what / who is it going to be that finally manages to get him out of power?

Sorry Jambalaya, this is a direct quote from his speech ""Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews at the time, he wanted to expel the Jew. And Haj Amin al-Husseini went to Hitler and said, 'If you expel them, they'll all come here (to Palestine).' According to Netanyahu, Hitler then asked: "What should I do with them?" and the mufti replied: "Burn them."

read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.681525

How is that his political opponents generating the story?

Does anyone really think the Prime Minister of Israel would trivialise the holocaust

Yip. I absolutely would! When you look at the man we're talking about, I don't know why you'd doubt it. Its not even that he's a murderous genocidal lunatic, as well as an avowed zionist, who would seemingly plumb any depths to further 'the cause'.

Its the fact that he's so completely self serving and utterly devoid of any remote vestige of humanity. He would literally do absolutely anything to achieve, then stay in power.

I'm surprised you're surprised.

Again... there/s a certain irony, given his genocidal behavior towards the Palestinians, that he's using Hitler to justify it

If he wasn't killing people in large numbers on the back of it, it'd actually be funny

More the point as I interpret the comments is shifting the blame of the Holocaust from the Nazi's to the Palestinian's, basically backing up / justifying continued hatred towards the Arabs.
Whether that's trivialising it I don't know, but it is, to my mind, quite simply continuing to stir up the hatred.

I don't see it as a trivialisation at all, I did read the speech. I've been following the rising tensions pretty closely as I am sure many here would expect. Vicenews as is often the case has some of the best reporting of events not shown on mainstream tv Dispatch 5 on "The heart of the conflict. Intifada 3" was published yesterday

@binners there are those in Israel more "robust" shall we say than Netanyahu, one of the consequences of the war in Gaza last year and the discovery of so many attack tunnels into Israel is public opinion has hardened and moved further right particularly amongst those Israelis in the West Bank.

Typical of STW to pick up on this story and not comment upon or repost videos of Israelis being run down and stabbed whilst stood waiting for the bus.

EDIT: Interesting we have this thread and yet nothing about Abbas and other Palestinian leaders pedalling FALSE rumours that Israel was about to relax the BAN on Jews praying at a religious site important to both Jews and Muslims

Typical of STW to pick up on this story and not comment upon or repost videos of Israelis being run down and stabbed whilst stood waiting for the bus

Typical of you to come out with apologist crap like that.

Anyone supporting Israel is a morally bankrupt human being. You should be deeply ashamed of yourself.

jambalaya - Member
Does anyone really think the Prime Minister of Israel would trivialise the holocaust, really even for just a second do you believe that ? Netanyahu's right wing political opponents in Israel have generated this story, would you rather they where running the show ?

Yip, I also think he's directly behind the recent rise in tensions.

Typical of STW to pick up on this story and not comment upon or repost videos of Israelis being run down and stabbed whilst stood waiting for the bus.

Or of the Eritrean guy beaten to death by a mob, eh?

Jamby, Israel bombed 1000 women and children +1000 men(obvs all terrorists) to death in their war on Gaza (IDF's own figures) last year

that cunning plan to bring piece to Israel is having its inevitable consequences played out, in this 3rd intifada

binners there are those in Israel more "robust" shall we say than Netanyahu

So to paraphrase what you're saying:

He may be a murderous genocidal bastard, but he's nothing compared to some of the Zionists, so we should probably let him get on with his hate-filled genocide, because the alternative is far, far worse.

Paints Israel in a lovely light, that does

Typical of STW to pick up on this story and not comment upon or repost videos of Israelis being run down and stabbed whilst stood waiting for the bus.

Are the knifey beardies quoting Hitler too?

And at the risk of starting the whole 'perspective' and 'proportionality' issue that all zionists find so very difficult to grasp, stabbing someone in the street, while not in any way endorsable, isn't really dropping phosphorous shells on schools and hospitals, is it? One of Mr Netanyahu's pastimes when not blathering on his delusional self-serving twoddle about Palestinians causing the Holocaust 🙄

I suppose for him, and his zionist ilk, this is the natural next step from the usual knee jerk cry of 'ANTISEMITE!!" to anyone who dares to, perfectly legitimately, raise concerns about their conduct

Because that's a despicable title that gets thrown about far too readily, merely to shut down any debate on the murderous behavior of the Israeli state

chakaping - Member
Typical of STW to pick up on this story and not comment upon or repost videos of Israelis being run down and stabbed whilst stood waiting for the bus

I'll let you post those, as i'm sure you will post some videos, I don't deny they happen. Here's some videos for the other point of view.

https://www.facebook.com/AlRimawiPhotography/videos/548397015311224/

At this point, anything that Netanyahu does is not a surprise to me. The man is deplorable. I cannot believe he was elected again. This holds true for all the family and friends I have in Israel. Unfortunately the majority of voters fail to share this opinion.

Typical of STW to pick up on this story and not comment upon or repost videos of Israelis being run down and stabbed whilst stood waiting for the bus.

what about the Palestinian boy who may have been carrying a knife but was gunned down then abused by settlers whilst the IDF did nothing, an ambulance arrived and again they did nothing?

or the Palestinian who was gunned down by the IDF then one of the soldiers goes and throws a knife next to him?

or the Palestinian girl who was surrounded by IDF soldiers and was gunned down even though all she was carrying was her books in her bag and had her hands raised to show she was not armed?

or the Palestinian girl who was gunned down and then stripped naked by settlers?

what about the IDF dressing up as Palestinians and then inciting the crowd to throw stones at the IDF and then pulling out guns and turning on the crowd? and then once they have caught a few Palestinians, with the aid of their uniformed buddies then proceed to beat the living daylights out of those they have caught?

what about the fact that the Israeli government via that vile mouthpiece Mark Regev are encouraging Israelis who have gun licences to carry their weapons in public? so now there are bloodthirsty settlers walking the streets carrying M16's

Well that didn't take long to get bonkers did it ?

There's 3 conversations you can't have on the internet without it going bonkers.

1) Gun control
2) Israel
3) The correct colour of a packet of salt and vinegar crisps.

Green, btw.

I blame Fatcha!

hels - Member
Well that didn't take long to get bonkers did it ?

I don't see alot of "bonkers" tbh.

Northwind, you forgot compulsory cycle helmet wearing. And abortion.

Typical of you to come out with apologist crap like that.

Anyone supporting Israel is a morally bankrupt human being. You should be deeply ashamed of yourself.

THIS

what he said is shameful incorrect and mud raking of the lowest barrel scrapping attempt to dehumanise and engender hatred

The fact only Jamby will defend this says a lot about the two of those bed fellows

EDIT: can we not do a league table of who has done what in Israel
Both sides do bad things lets discuss if this statement is

1) True

2) Helpful

PS NW is wrong clearly

If we're doing history lessons, the founders of the Israeli state lauded as national heroes, as well as being terrorist mass-murderers:

'...initially sought an alliance with Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany, offering to fight alongside them against the British in return for the transfer of all Jews from Nazi-occupied Europe to Palestine.[2] Believing that Nazi Germany was a lesser enemy of the Jews than Britain, Lehi twice attempted to form an alliance with the Nazis.[2] During World War II it declared that it would establish a Jewish state based upon "nationalist and totalitarian principles".'

So probably best to keep quiet about that period really.

Green IS cheese & onion.

Blue IS salt & vinegar.

There's a Hitler Meme video (can't link from FB)

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I was thinking more of Deir Yassin but sorry yes mass murder is definitely ok sometimes. Jambalaya said so while unequivocally denouncing terrorism so it must be true.

EDIT: Interesting we have this thread and yet nothing about Abbas and other Palestinian leaders pedalling FALSE rumours that Israel was about to relax the BAN on Jews praying at a religious site important to both Jews and Muslims [b]just because they are not arresting the perpetrators of the increasingly frequent Zionist sit/ins/incursions and have indeed said that the ban was "fluid"[/b]

Imagine Palestinian leaders adopting a worst case scenario in looking at how the Israeli's traet them!

FTFY

here's the link to the video of him blaming the Palestinians for the holocaust...so that Jambalaya can claim someone else said it
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/21/netanyahu-under-fire-for-palestinian-grand-mufti-holocaust-claim

Its almost as if he set out to provoke a reaction? Possibly a violent one? To then use as justification for the next military onslaught?

But surely he wouldn't be that cynical, would he?

But surely he wouldn't be that cynical, would he?

why not? ive seen videos of IDF officers dressed up as Palestinians, egging on crowds to throw stones then pulling their guns out and threatening to shoot them. they then go on to catch a few and beat the shit out of them....their uniformed pals then come along and join in before dragging them off into their trucks.
if they can do this then they are capable of much worse....how do we know that all the crimes they claim are carried out against them by the Palestinians are genuine and not IDF soldiers dressed up as Palestinians?
doing so again gives them the justification to further dehumanise/oppress the Palestinians...

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/21/netanyahu-under-fire-for-palestinian-grand-mufti-holocaust-claim
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video of the OP.

binners - Member
Its almost as if he set out to provoke a reaction? Possibly a violent one? To then use as justification for the next military onslaught?

But surely he wouldn't be that cynical, would he?

I'm of absolutely no doubt that he's directly responsible for the recent escalation of violence.

i doubt cynical had anything to do with it.
although i reckon he's on the green side of the argument.

[quote=gonzy opined]here's the link to the video of him blaming the Palestinians for the holocaust...so that Jambalaya can claim someone else said it
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/21/netanyahu-under-fire-for-palestinian-grand-mufti-holocaust-claim
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That is unfair, everyone knows the actual indisputable facts can never refute what Mr 100% says.