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I also resent the proposition that as IT Geeks we have no power. We're usually the most powerful people in the company. HTH.
Sorry, you may [i]use most of the power in a company[/i] but I think IT are quite a long way down the pecking order in most of the companies I've worked for. I've never seen an IT person in a board meeting deciding who's going to get promoted, demoted, redundant, hired etc etc.
IT people may be high in [b]importance[/b] but the clout the IT dept has in my company (300 employees) matches the people who lick the envelopes in the post room
Back on topic...
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Just stick to the bike forum, its quiet over there. And it'd pretty easy to spot the threads where someone is trolling. They tend to be related to politics in someway and over 3 pages long....
Personally I don,t think these people are that opinionated in real life and are probably quite nice chaps.
[i]IT people may be high in importance but the clout the IT dept has in my company (300 employees) matches the people who lick the envelopes in the post room[/i]
uhuh. Are you at work now accessing this? That's happening because someone like me allows it. Enjoy.
uhuh. Are you at work now accessing this? That's happening because someone like me allows it. Enjoy.
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That's hilarious
uhuh. Are you at work now accessing this? That's happening because someone like me allows it. Enjoy.
Well, you could say the most important dep't is the one that unlocks the door in a morning then?
Mmm, I'm fairly sure that if someone on your board (assuming you're not) told you to block STW, you would. It sounds like you're confusing power and skill.
Exactly. The business will carry on working quite happily without the CEO but if there's nobody there to open the doors, it'll grind to a halt.
uhuh. Are you at work now accessing this? That's happening because someone like me allows it. Enjoy.
Who sets the policy that tells you to allow it? 😀
I do. I'm your worst nightmare, I'm a geek with authority.
uhuh. Are you at work now accessing this? That's happening because someone like me allows it. Enjoy
So you control the 3G network then?
Exactly. The business will carry on working quite happily without the CEO but if there's nobody there to open the doors, it'll grind to a halt.
No, they get some other drone to do it.
The business will carry on working quite happily without the CEO but if there's nobody there to open the doors, it'll grind to a halt.
I did actually see ours grind to a halt for that very reason
a rather annoyed ex-employee super-glued the gate locks
The IT manager was running around in a tizzy trying to arrange logons for people to shoot off home and dial in whilst one of the service guys simply walked over to his van and got the Stihl saw out
[i]ervice guys simply walked over to his van and got the Stihl saw out [/i]
Sounds like a pretty important guy.
I do. I'm your worst nightmare, I'm a geek with authority.
So you are the head honcho, my apologies.
Sounds like a pretty important guy.
It was quite comical TBH - people were in all sorts of panic whilst this guy simply stood there having his smoke, when he finished it, he just wandered over chopped the lock off and then went back to his van and left them all to dismantle their ad-hoc 'car-boot' office
Our IT guys are the least geeky in the place, bunch of beery Aussies with attitude.
[i]So you are the head honcho, my apologies. [/i]
no problem.
Can someone please tag this thread with samuri=awesome?
Ta
It’s not real life at all, some of the characters may well be their real selves and some of them may well not be, it’s often not easy to tell and you can never be sure
Doesn't make me any less real though. I'm not a character in a movie.
Real people, real feelings, you can't just treat people like scum and go "well, it's not like it's real, is it." Well, you could, just like in 'real life,' but that wouldn't make you a very nice person.
So you control the 3G network then?
Well, he doesn't block it.
"Point the second, whilst I'm proud to be an "IT geek," I take offence at the implication that this somehow invalidates me or my opinions."
"Point the first, no-one's forcing you to use the forum."
Lol.... @ the IT geek
Pourquoi?
Real people, real feelings, you can't just treat people like scum and go "well, it's not like it's real, is it."
We'll have to disagree on the real people bit for a lot of the characters on here and other forums then, I've really no idea who they are, they may well have a real persona and show it online, but I simply don't know
I don't see a lot of characters being treated like scum either
Sorry Cougar .... I was just chuckling at the amusing t-shirt you're no doubt wearing
It's not the bitching or trolling, but when someone like realman can just keep posting after ripping someone off on the classifieds, I could quite happily block the musings of a scrot like that.
Point the second, whilst I'm proud to be an "IT geek," I take offence at the implication that this somehow invalidates me or my opinions.
Got to say I didn't particularly like the OP's comment either. Still, maybe he's woken up in a better mood this morning.
And like others have posted, I see very little actual spite on this forum - the odd mindless "XXX is gay" type post which contributes little, but very few personal attacks.
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wasnt there some german fella with a dodgy tash back in the 30s who tried banning everyone who didnt agree with him ???? oh what was his name ??? 😉
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I'm the only person that's on my killfile list.
I post frequently and with such insight that I'd be forever in amazement at my own greatness.
It's easier this way.
Oooh look ^^ some idiot said something stupid. But I know they're not.
I've really no idea who they are, they may well have a real persona and show it online, but I simply don't know
True enough, as far as it goes.
I've met a lot of people over the years who I first knew online. Some people are exactly the same face-to-face, some are very different. A couple are now very good friends but until I met them I couldn't abide them online.
But then, online aside, I've met people face to face who've turned out not to be what they first seem too. You don't need a keyboard to be disingenuous, to project a 'persona'.
So, I don't agree with the idea that it's "only" online, it's not "real", any more than any other medium. Would you say the same if you were being interviewed on television, or conducting a phone call? If it's not real life then drop an email to your boss calling him a nob and see how far you get with that. The only practical difference is that the web is newer and people are still working it out.
Sorry if I've got a bit of a bee in my comedy t-shirt about this, but the "it's not real life" mindset is often the defence of trolls who think it's funny to antagonise people they've never met. Not that I'm saying that's the case here, I just believe it's erroneous to think that way.
If it's not real life then drop an email to your boss calling him a nob and see how far you get with that. The only practical difference is that the web is newer and people are still working it out.
As he's sacking me in April I probably would, but that aside .....
I'm sure he's had emails from employees calling him a nob [and worse] but they'll have usually come from someone with a made up name - like on internet forums - so he'll have no real idea who they are
Sending someone you know an email is not the the same as chatting with strangers that have made up names
"Sorry if I've got a bit of a bee in my comedy t-shirt about this, but the "it's not real life" mindset is often the defence of trolls who think it's funny to antagonise people they've never met. Not that I'm saying that's the case here, I just believe it's erroneous to think that way."
Sorry guilty as charged
But then I just treat this place like being down the pub with a load of mates… and that mostly involves taking the pee.
Especially when someone contradicts themselves
Does it make a difference whether my alias is "Cougar," "John Smith" or "Deathblade Eric the Third"?
I wouldn't block anyone however the people who follow you around like a lost puppy posting where you've posted is a wee bit sad (AndyP and RichC spring to mind). They'll be along shortly as they probably use the search function for their username which would perpetuate what I think of them 🙄
But then I just treat this place like being down the pub with a load of mates
This. Plus some of you are crazier and less predictable than the voices in my head.
The vast majority of people on here that are rude and unpleasant wouldn't dare do it in person as they would end up getting a kicking on a regular basis.
Really? REALLY?
I feel sad that you think that
I've been on this forum for many years, and I've met literally scores if people off here, probably over 100 by now and I find exactly the opposite to be true. Sure, there's some that relish a good argument but that's allowed. That's what forums are for.
But put a real issue in front if the STW massiv and watch everyone to a (wo)man come together. Prime example - Bullhearts cancer.
There's a shedload of good advice on here, it's astonishing sometimes, better than Google, and always a balanced POV if you actually read what is written.
If I agreed with you, would that help? Because if I felt like you do, I'd leave the forum
But then I just treat this place like being down the pub with a load of mates… and that mostly involves taking the pee.
Same here, really. STW is just another social circle that attracts it's own banter. People get to know each other, and the lines and barriers are relaxed. Friendships are made. Wow, just like real life, who'd a thunk it.
I think perhaps 'taking the pee' is all about intent. You can do it with a nod and a knowing smile, or full of rage and malice. A problem then arises in written communication because it can be very difficult to tell the difference. Without body language it's not always readily apparent when someone is joking or deadly serious.
Especially when someone contradicts themselves
I don't see how that's particularly contradictory. Hypocritical, perhaps. (-: I choose to use the forum because, on the whole, I like it. That doesn't mean that I don't get to go "oi, you might want to think about what you're saying" occasionally.
Does it make a difference whether my alias is "Cougar," "John Smith" or "Deathblade Eric the Third"?
Not one jot, no
Anyway, it's slopping out time and big Bert from C block want to see me and I know he's real 🙂 so I'll leave you to it
...Not one jot, no
Sending someone you know an email is not the the same as chatting with strangers that have made up names
Sorry, you seem to be contradicting yourself. Could you perhaps elaborate once Bert's finished with you?
On the other hand Ro5ey, that looks like contradiction to me... (-:
no it isn't as I've no idea if any of those are your real names
Bert didn't want much this time, working in a Public school can be tiresome
But then I just treat this place like being down the pub with a load of mates… and that mostly involves taking the pee.
I often think the same, but there are similarities and differences, you wouldn't wander around the pub joining in any old conversation, you wouldn't drop in on a table to drop a bombshell of a wittisism then leave, you wouldn't listen into another conversation then charge in with you own opinions, you wouldn't walk up to a group of people to hurl insults.
Or would you?
You might do it with mates, but it's a bit rich to assume I'm your mate.
Right you lot are boring me now... I'm off to pull the blonde in the corner.
If I crash n burn I'll see you in the Raj later on
I don't get the OP's problem. If you come across posts that you consider juvenile/rude/offensive and so on, either 1: ignore them or 2: respond.
The response is often a good self-measure against your own monitoring of your own forum approach. No? I mean, yes?
[i]you wouldn't wander around the pub joining in any old conversation[/i]
...or leaning across strangers' tables and saying "WGAF?"