[Closed] Is the average STWer

WTF is a "little Englander"?

i'm 6ft 2"

Lets not mention the continuous whinging about other people!

are you confusing 'British' with 'STWer'

Yes & no, I find myself more intune with some of Captain Flashes view than yours for instance, however I have never read the mail, dont hold with the BNP & agree with you on dags.

So no flaming from me but probably am pretty much Middle England (unless its rugby when I become Welsh)

I consider myself 'above average' 8)

I think you mean 'typical' rather than average.

Oh you forgot something off your list:

Pedantic and smug.

You forgot the whinging Scotch whinging about being called Scotch.

I forgot the classic moaning about bins being emptied or not as well.

However you learn something everyday - I thought I had bettter check the definitions and got this - I meant the second definition but had never heard of the first and they are rather contradictory.

Little Englander is a term indicating an anti-imperialist political stance dating from the time of the Second Boer War (1899–1901). The term then designated people who were against the British Empire and for "England" to extend no further than the borders of the United Kingdom. For example, Arthur Ponsonby wrote of the Liberal Party leader Sir Henry Campbell-Bannerman's reputation for his opposition to the Boer War: "The impression one got of him from the Press in those days was… that he was an unpatriotic Little Englander".[1]

In modern times, a "Little Englander" is usually applied by the centre and centre-left to those who are regarded as xenophobic and/or overly nationalistic and are often accused of being ignorant and boorish. It is also sometimes applied to those who are against membership of the European Union. English people who mistakenly refer to the whole of the UK or Britain as "England" may also be called "Little Englanders".

Stands to reason doesn't it- largely white, lower middle class, uncertain of their future, and their children's, fearful of having to return to the lifestyle of their parents.

Actually, tj, do you consider yourself an 'Englander'? Or Scotch?

British.

Half of the posters on STW actually work in Indian call centres. This is where they learn northern town names, foibles, syntax etc of their customers.

TJ.. do you find it a little depressing that there are not more people like you out there?

We have a continual vicious hatred of anyone to the left of Attila the Hun

I nominate this as exaggeration of the day. Do I win £5? Mind you, plenty of time left for the STW faithful to rival it. 😆

I think the STW masses are not that right leaning - lt's just that the left leaning members cannot tolerate / accept a political view that differs from theirs if it is slightly to the right.

Have I missed the thread on the BA dispute yet?

maybe it would be fairer to have a go at selfish greedy capitalists who have been giving investment advise recently. A very conservative thing to do

LOL@ Hora

Yeti - out in the real world I know plenty of people with a social conscience and the ability to see beyond the propaganda - there are a few on here as well - they tend to be less vocal.

GJ I probably agree with you on dags.

Bikingcatastrophe - exaggerate? Me - I have explained a million times that I don't exaggerate

There was a thread on the BA dispute a while ago giving the unions an absolute kicking for trying to represent their members ad protect their members interests.

I'm from Bonnybridge, I laugh at you 'Little Earthers'.

TJ just loves a good virtual world political ding dong! Sometimes I honestly think he doesn't believe in half the stuff he states and is merely doing it for the reaction!!

TJ I live in CallmeDaves constituency...... I find it very depressing..... my vote counts for nothing.

I think there's quite a cross section of people on here, but the more reactionary amongst us tend also to be the most angry generally, hense the relatively high proportion of daily mail like rants.

Unlike you, most of the time I just can't be bothered to read or rise to it. Life's too short, and the last thing a cross Little Englander is going to do is have their mind changed by some smug, middle class, wishy-washy, public sector liberal like me. I'd rather talk about the things we've got in common like enjoying riding bikes.

What a shame UKIP and the BNP dont challenge him eh Yeti 😉

I'm from Bonnybridge, I laugh at you 'Little Earthers'.

Poor chap. I'm a Bonnybridge escapee.

Its true TJ. I swore at one callcentre worker and he offered me outside 'with his bombers' 😯

I thought he was calling me a bummer at first but then he repeated 'I will own you with my bombers' 8)

TJ I live in CallmeDaves constituency...... I find it very depressing..... my vote counts for nothing.

Could be worse though. I live in the constituency that Alistair Darling was parachuted into after the previous MP was paid off with a peership.

'What a shame UKIP and the BNP dont challenge him eh Yeti '

Haha.... sadly I think they'd stand more chance against Dave in West Ox than any other party!

Unlike you, most of the time I just can't be bothered to read or rise to it.

I think you'll find that more often than not it's TJ that actually starts it, especially if it involves a chance to get a dig in about the hated tories or an opportunity to stand up for his beloved NuLab. Not that there is anything fundamentally wrong with hating tories, just that I'd like to see a little more hatred of the other right wing parties including NuLab...

TJ, you forgot we don't like lorries or child murderers or car drivers or horse sh1t or crc ...

hora - 😆

yes, i see all of these things in STWrs but on the most part any given individual only conforms to one or two of your stereotypes - anyone who ticks all the boxes should be locked up and have the key thrown away.

Is TJ really Tony Benn amusing himself in his dotage ?

Think i agree with TJ here. I blame the parents. and by that i mean posters who are, or are recently parents.

The stench of shite, lack of sleep, and nappy boxes wedged in bins is clearly too much for them.

I blame the parents

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Epic steve - I do give labour a hard time when deserved - see my comments over Iraq for example. I am no great fan. It only seems that way compared to the reactionary norm on here and I hate to see them blamed for things that are not their fault.

hate to see them blamed for things that are not their fault.

Fanboy.

Reactionary! Class traitor!

Reactionary! Class traitor!

I actually vote for a party that hasn't (yet) betrayed it's socialist principles. Given I'd now be called middle class then that possibly does mark me out as a class traitor.

SSP? Socialist [s]w@nkers[/s] workers party?

SSP? Socialist w@nkers workers party?

No, no, no. That's the "line your own pockets for doing nothing other than pandering to enough of the idiot masses to get a nice little list seat" party.

I'm talking about a party that has the best interest of my country at heart, not one that just sees Scotland as it's best chance of maintaining control of the UK as a whole (NuLab), or doesn't care about it at all (Tories) or are such utter turncoat scum that no right minded person would ever vote for them (LibDem). Doesn't actually leave that many choices.

Ah - you mean the tartan tories? The SNP. 🙂

They have successfully reinvented themselves as a party of the left. They used to be a party of the right back in the 70s.

Whats your verdict on Salmond as first minister then - I am genuinely interested to know.

The little Englander incarnate

Don't pigeon hole people who don't agree with your viewpoints TJ, if someone isn't a fan of current immigration policy it doesn't make them a racist or a member of the BNP. Has it not occurred to you that some people get very poor value from their local councils?
FFS, your viewpoint is no more correct or important than anyone elses.

Whats your verdict on Salmond as first minister then - I am genuinely interested to know.

The other parties only have their 2nd or even 3rd tier in the Scottish Parliament so he's up against pygmies most of the time and therefore walks all over them. Yes he's overly smug by anyones standards but I don't think anyone can deny he's a competent politician and that means he's streets ahead of anyone else. He makes Gray look a fool at each and every first ministers questions, not that it'd appear to be all that difficult.

NuLab didn't exactly set a high standard for first ministers either, and it now looks like the chap they were grooming for the top (Purcell) isn't likely to make a comeback...

BTW one of my wife's friends is married to a chap who used to be a senior NuLab minister in the Scottish Parliament, but was ousted when Joke McConnell took over as he was on the wrong side of the Brown/Blair divide. The things he tells of Scottish Labour, and the in-fighting in particular, would put anyone off.

Little Englander is a stereotypical description generally used by those who claim to despise stereotyping.

Racism IMHO.

epicsteve - I think he has done rather well - played his limited hand well and got most stuff right bar the Trump golf course thing. The real test will be can he deliver on renewables.

I agree with you about the small folk surrounding him - labour in particular are awful and full of infighting and talentless clowns - they have been made to look very foolish indeed. Its all been sulks and "Yar boo sucks" from labour - contrast with the good work done by Goldie - she has played her very limited hand well and has got some of what she wanted by playing consensus politics and fighting on the issues that count to her.

I think Labour have wreaked their chances in Scotland for a generation - SNP should get a majority next time and Tories will increase seats.

No doubt the SNP have the best talent in Holyrood.

Backhander - forgot your pinch of salt? How is it racist? Lost your sense of humour?

I'd love to know how you can see the little englander comment ass racist. Make that case. Find a definition of racist that it fits.