[Closed] Is Neil Oliver finished?

Oh I do hope so. A danger to the gullible.

hope so.

He's David Icke lite.

called himself a historian despite having no qualifications.

Are there any qualifications needed to call oneself a historian? I think he has an archeology degree hasn't he?

Burnistoun had his number years ago with the Robert Clach sketches

Are there any qualifications needed to call oneself a historian?

Maybe a degree in History?

An absolute tosser of a guy.

He'll have a whole new career in complaining he's been cancelled. Next thing he'll be all over QuestionTime, trending on Twitter and doing awful songs on mornning TV, like that other idiot.

FWIW I always thought he was bit of a dick anyway, called himself a historian despite having no qualifications.

Does he not have a degree in archaeology? And can only people with a qualification consider themselves historians? There's an undoubled expert local historian in the town where I live - I've never thought to ask if he's got qualifications.

FWIW - I don't like his politics nor self-aggrandising, and I'm sure his chance of BBC history work is pretty low now.

He's still on TV a lot. I know because I'm often shouting "not this gobshite again" and switching over.

I would think so.  Maybe get work thru rright wing media but he is badly tainted

FWIW I liked his stuff on telly but t'missus thought him a jerk.  I guess she was a better judge of character 🙂

the Robert Clach sketches

Thanks @tomd 🤣

There's nothing wrong with being a self-taught Historian.

His mainstream career is probably over though. GB News seems to be a one-way street and the people I know who work in that industry would loath to be associated with anything that overtly right-wing.

I never liked him as his hair didn't suit him.

FWIW I liked his stuff on telly but t’missus thought him a jerk.

She was right. Again.

Ironically, as with many of these 'anti-woke' people he seems utterly desperate to find a cause where he can be the victim of some great injustice - despite being a comfortably-off, reasonably successful white man.

Burnistoun had his number years ago with the Robert Clach sketches

Back when TJ had long hair.

comfortably-off, reasonably successful white man.

Does that make up about 99% of the "anti-woke"?

Tragic cases that just can't live with the fact that the world no longer revolves around them.
Almost certainly bedwetters into their early teens.

Why would you ruin a perfectly sensible comment like this:

Does that make up about 99% of the “anti-woke”?

Tragic cases that just can’t live with the fact that the world no longer revolves around them.

by adding this on the end:

Almost certainly bedwetters into their early teens.

Anyone that's incontinent in their early teens probably has a medical reason for it, whilst the term "bedwetters" is the language of the "anti-woke".

🙂
That’s the problem with being ‘woke’ (for want of a better word), no matter how careful you are, in the end you’ll offend someone and suddenly it’s you that’s the bad guy*

* or gal.

Oh yeah, and I have a BA Hons in history from a good university, but I wouldn't call myself a historian. Am I the anti-Neil Oliver?

* or gal.

*person

depends Grum - are you a slaphead?  If so yes 🙂

Tragic cases that just can’t live with the fact that the world no longer revolves around them.

Annoyingly though it still does.

Annoyingly though it still does.

Only if we let it

Insufferable and looking more and more like an an Alan Partridge gone to seed.

I hear that he reads sermons now? Church Of GBeebies

I know he was on GBTV, but never watched it so don't know his views. Still, given descriptions above, having him back could be a good way for the Beeb to appease Dorries/DCMS by having him back presenting stuff he did prior (i.e. non-political).

There’s nothing wrong with being a self-taught Historian.

Theres also nothing unusual in pursuing a career in something other than the subject you studied at university. Most people don't (especially most people who study history)  - its academic study not vocational training.

And being a presenter on a subject has nothing to do with being an authority on the subject. In fact it helps not to be. Certainly in the past it was a deliberate strategy for the BBC. James Burke - science presenter, chief reporter on the Apollo moon landings, had a degree in Middle English and had published an Art Encyclpedia before he got the job of Science presenter for the BBC. The aim was for arts experts to present Science programs and Science experts to present Arts programmes. The presenter needs to be an outsider to be able to convey an understanding of a subject to a ley audience

But anyway... knowing people who studied archeology alongside Oliver, the guy we see today isn't really a revelation to them - its just something he's had to keep a lid on during his presenting career to date.

The trouble he has is that he will now have to keep top trumping himself in the future to remain "relevant"/controversial.

Covid will effectively be over at some point and he'll have to move on to other subjects of outrage. I think that's when we'll really see what a dark place his mind is.

I suspect he is still having to moderate some of the subjects he'd like to give opinions on.

Oversaw a huge drop in NTS Scotland membership during his stint. And yes, a complete tool.

Theres also nothing unusual in pursuing a career in something other than the subject you studied at university

Phew!

The trouble he has is that he will now have to keep top trumping himself in the future to remain “relevant”

No trouble, I would imagine. Take his historical claim that the 2020 lockdown was

the biggest mistake in world history

Well, it’s already history now. So if Bozo and Chums next week decide to mandate the wearing of masks then Oliver will find it trivial to simply update the

‘biggest mistake in world history’.

He could do one a week. Possibly two?

Masks next Monday?
Next Thursday? Transgender shoes?
Following week? COVID-19 vaccinations and boosters.
Xmas Special: Snowflake cancels snowflakes in favour of Black Lives Matter

Etc

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The trouble he has is that he will now have to keep top trumping himself in the future to remain “relevant”/controversial.

Yep, and that's actually pretty hard. You need to have the exact right mix of intuitiveness, cynicism, dishonesty, intelligence and just the right balance of selfawareness so that you can position yourself, and the ability to suspend self awareness so you can act like you're not a carefully constructed frankenstein's monster. And then you have to get it right, over and over. Most people just couldn't do it and I reckon that most people that could do it will always choose not to.

Some people are really good at it- Katie Hopkins was a natural. It's all about the journey, knowing where you need to go, exactly where too far is and where not far enough is and making sure you never ever get to the end. But everyone runs out of room to manoeuvre eventually. Oliver is super mega bad at it.

called himself an historian despite having no qualifications.

It's 'an' historian, like it's An Hathaway. 😉

I've already defriended a Facebook 'friend' this week for promoting a Katie Hopkins video, then another shared that Neil Oliver video, which I watched.
Was actually quite taken aback at the rubbish he was spouting.
I didn't realise he was a dick.

* An angry Alan Partridge gone to seed

Perhaps a history column in the mail.

*an history column 😛

Is Neil Oliver finished?

I hope so.

Think he's great and have enjoyed his musings over the last 18 months or so. However, that beardage needs some serious attention, what a mess.

Does he have a future as an archaeologist? Or a TV historian? No idea. I’d like to see him try though. The Neil Oliver history come back tour. In which no one of interest will talk to him, and he ends up paraded around Hay-on-Wye by a militant wing of the WI who give him a tongue lashing for his hateful world views. All the while flicking cake batter at him.

I dunno like so many of these people he seems to relish the notoriety. He comes across as a very angry little man with nothing particularly original to say about anything, good or bad.

Think he’s great and have enjoyed his musings

Now we know your just trolling nobody finds Neil Oliver great

He wasn’t even good before he became an irrelevant angry dick.

Even when he talked about relevant things as a collumist he was a non

Oversaw a huge drop in NTS Scotland membership during his stint.

NTS Annual Review 2016-17 states membership 366,000, NTS Annual accounts 2019-20 states membership 371,803 so it has gone up.

I thought he was only anti vaccines for children which is a perfectly respectable viewpoint.

He looks like a pound shop 1990s era George Best, and he's a knobber, so I'm out.

I respect his opinions on mesolithic archaeology

On virology & epidemiology, Hes just a clown

But that's GBnews for you!

I thought he was only anti vaccines for children which is a perfectly respectable viewpoint.

Never had you down as a GB News kinda guy mefty. Lockdown driven you towards extremism?

We can only presume that too many of us were seen to be awakening from the toxic trance into which we had been put by propaganda from the nudge unit. Fear has been the key to nearly two years of unprecedented power for politicians and their scientists – fear has also blinded people to the reality of manipulation and mass hypnosis used to make them, and to keep them, compliant. But with that fear on the wane, losing its power to do harm, much like the virus was losing its power, it was plainly time to cast another spell.

And here it is, in the form of yet another variant. How timely. Someone even managed to sprinkle, for a while, the acronym HIV over this latest mutation, like bitter icing on a stale cake.

This is just tinfoil-hat claptrap. ^^^

Shame, because there are valid criticisms to be made of the pandemic response but this kind of nonsense devalues any legitimate concerns.