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I made the mistake of going out for bread earlier today, I live next to a lovely Welsh river that likes to cover the track that leads to my house and in my bread desperation I drove through about 1ft deep water.

I managed to get through but my Fiat Doblo now sounds very stuttery, seems to have lost power and had a fair amount of steam coming out of the exhaust. I drove it about 100m after this then parked it up and left it, before returning to my house feeling both foolish and hungry.

I'll ring up the garage tomorrow but until then does anyone want to tell me how badly I've ****ed up?


 
Posted : 16/02/2022 9:44 pm
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Diesel?
Hydraulic lock☹


 
Posted : 16/02/2022 9:46 pm
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Brown bread?


 
Posted : 16/02/2022 9:47 pm
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Taty bread.


 
Posted : 16/02/2022 9:48 pm
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That's a sour-doh! experience by the sounds of it.


 
Posted : 16/02/2022 9:50 pm
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It's a diesel, hydraulic lock sounds bad...


 
Posted : 16/02/2022 9:53 pm
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Hydraulic lock

Jammed?


 
Posted : 16/02/2022 9:54 pm
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Could just be some wet electrickerybits. Attack with a can of WD40.

Go through faster next time.


 
Posted : 16/02/2022 9:56 pm
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Hydraulic lock would have jammed it solid surely? If there's steam coming out of the exhaust it might just be a bit of water in the intake. I would have kept driving it in that case, flush it out before it all gets cold and condenses in there.

Whatever you drive, make sure you know where the air intake is!


 
Posted : 16/02/2022 10:00 pm
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Popty Pinking?


 
Posted : 16/02/2022 10:00 pm
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Hydraulic lock would have jammed it solid surely?

Only if you get it really bad.

Bent Conrods it'll still run in many cases.


 
Posted : 16/02/2022 10:08 pm
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Check your air filter,if you have a really low intake like I had on a Clio many years ago it can fill the filter housing up and small amounts of water can splash over the top of the filter into the intake.Sounds unlikely,I was suprised when lifting the lid of the housing up to find it threequarters full.


 
Posted : 16/02/2022 10:09 pm
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Does it sound 'lumpy' or like it's running on 3 cylinders on idle? Probably hydraulic'd and bent a con rod.

{Edited - beaten by 2minutes!}

Hydraulic'd a Merc G-Wagen once thankfully it was only idling so stalled. Glow plugs out cranked over to blow the water out and it survived.


 
Posted : 16/02/2022 10:11 pm
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Use yer loaf next time mate.


 
Posted : 16/02/2022 10:12 pm
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feeling both foolish and hungry.

I imagine that’ll be the yeast of your problems.


 
Posted : 16/02/2022 10:16 pm
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Dry your air filter & hope it starts tomorrow.


 
Posted : 16/02/2022 10:17 pm
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Check your air filter

This. I broke down on a motorway sliproad after driving through a lot of water once (old car). The airfilter had become saturated. I stopped when it got a bit lumpy and it died. If I'd kept going it'd be fine.


 
Posted : 16/02/2022 10:25 pm
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That video of the ford crossing. I could stand there and watch that all day.

I'd like to say I'm not daft enough to try something like driving across that but I likely am.


 
Posted : 16/02/2022 10:27 pm
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If it does start but still sounds a bit ropey is it a bad idea to drive it to the garage?


 
Posted : 16/02/2022 10:32 pm
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I’d like to say I’m not daft enough to try something like driving across that but I likely am.

Personally, I would never do something so stupid

Thanks everyone for your puns and assistance.


 
Posted : 16/02/2022 10:34 pm
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^^ I've done plenty of stupid things on my own defence.😁

Hope it's not totalled mate and an easy fix.


 
Posted : 16/02/2022 10:35 pm
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That video of the cars just sums up the stupid mentality of so many drivers.

Doesn't matter if it's a slower car, a cyclist or a flood, they simply must get past.

Every one of them deserves whatever mechanical disaster they suffered


 
Posted : 16/02/2022 10:47 pm
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At worst you will have bent a conrod which will probably be the death of the van. At best you may have just saturated your air filter, and replacing it may cure the rough running. First thing would be to take the filter out. It will indicate just how much water went where it shouldn't have. Then try and start and drive without the filter. If it works fine, all is well, just change the filter. If it is still rough then your motor is toast!


 
Posted : 16/02/2022 11:19 pm
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That Rufford Mill ford is about 5 mins from Sherwood Pines.
Google maps always tries to direct me through it.

Good luck with the motor OP!


 
Posted : 16/02/2022 11:43 pm
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feeling both foolish and hungry.

I imagine that’ll be the yeast of your problems.

This deserves more credit.


 
Posted : 16/02/2022 11:44 pm
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I've always known it as hydrolocking, rather than hydraulicking (sp?) or hydraulic'd

Anyway, it's not great. I'm also surprised it ran ok. Is the air intake quite low down on the doblo?

Think the thread title should be "my van got bread, but is it toast?"


 
Posted : 16/02/2022 11:51 pm
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Honestly, all these joke posts, poor old OP has had a bad do and all you lot want to do is make bad puns?

How would you feel if the rolls were reversed?


 
Posted : 17/02/2022 12:40 am
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I don't think this is the place to come for sympathy... there's lots of sensible suggestions.

I can't believe nobody's commented on the OP's username yet. But I shan't.

I'd suggest you know your wading depth, or get something more suitable. And still keep a look out for crocs.

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Posted : 17/02/2022 1:00 am
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Worth getting it checked over and contacting your insurance if it is hydro locked. I had the same experience with a VW T4 and insurers wrote it off


 
Posted : 17/02/2022 7:32 am
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and insurers wrote it off

Crumbs!


 
Posted : 17/02/2022 7:42 am
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+1 on filter and dry out electrics, you can but hope....

I hope this isn't a slice of life you don't feel too sour about in future.


 
Posted : 17/02/2022 8:29 am
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Go through faster next time

I think this is a joke, but just in case it's not - watch the rufford ford video and see if you still think that's the solution...


 
Posted : 17/02/2022 8:45 am
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Popty Pinking

Nice.

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Posted : 17/02/2022 9:51 am
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Just went and took a look at the van, air filter was quite wet, I took it out and the engine started fine but there is a bit of a knocking noise. Drove it a short way and it doesn't seem to want to get above 30mph.

Fairly certain I have done some damage to the engine which makes me very sad. Garage is 15 minutes down the road so I'll see if I can get there for them to have a listen.


 
Posted : 17/02/2022 10:09 am
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@BikesandSubmarines

bit of a knocking noise

bent con rod.
Big job - head off, sump off, undo big end push piston and rod out, check big end bearings and crank journals. New rod, reassemble.
If the engine has a lot of miles on it its an opportunity to give it a freshen up whilst in bits.


 
Posted : 17/02/2022 10:25 am
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haha thanks RNP, probably not something I would ever be up to though. Do you think it is something a competent garage would take on?


 
Posted : 17/02/2022 10:29 am
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The cost might be prohibitive, but that's old school mechanic-ing, I'm sure any garage would tackle it.


 
Posted : 17/02/2022 10:38 am
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I wish I'd known an Alfa 159 has its intake in the wheel arch, before I drove through here:

Looks shallow right? And when I approached it - to mitigate myself the bridge on the other side had a queue of cars on it - the measuring stick showed 9 inches, but after I killed the Alfa by hydro locking, some resident helped me pushed the car out and told me it happens all the time, because in reality its deeper because of wheel ruts caused by this:


 
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Gah bad luck OP hope it’s not too pricey!


 
Posted : 17/02/2022 11:00 am
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The ford in that video above really isn't that deep, but it's the bow wave that is sloshing the water up into air intakes.


 
Posted : 17/02/2022 11:14 am
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And still keep a look out for crocs.

If OP was wearing Crocs he has had all his self-respect drain out of the holes.


 
Posted : 17/02/2022 11:22 am
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Rufford Mill Ford - that'll be me wasting an afternoon of the family holiday this year...ta!


 
Posted : 17/02/2022 1:51 pm
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That video of the ford crossing. I could stand there and watch that all day.

I’d like to say I’m not daft enough to try something like driving across that but I likely am.

Rufford Mill Ford – that’ll be me wasting an afternoon of the family holiday this year…ta!

I live about 25 mins away and have taken my son (who is 2.5) and there is always a gathering there to see how many cars get wrecked driving through, the tally in a day can be spectacularly high!


 
Posted : 17/02/2022 2:12 pm
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but it’s the lack ofbow wave that is sloshing the water up into air intakes.

The idea of a bow wave is to have a wave just ahead of your vehicle causing a depression just behind keeping the area right Infront of your vehicle water free.

Done right - very impressive.

Vehicle come the other way or you get stuck /speed changes. Your in for a spendy time.


 
Posted : 17/02/2022 2:31 pm
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Just back from the garage, the engine is definitely borked. I was able to limp home but got about 200m from my house and the engine cut out completely, won't start and has an oil pressure warning light.

RIP Doblo


 
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