[Closed] Is a cottage pie, a pie?

And what do you call it when it's made with venison?

#firstworldproblems

It is not a pie, but may be referred to as one.

Nope.

I have just tucked into a homemade turkey mince curry cottage pie thing topped with mashed sweet potato and butternut squash

Am I going to burnt at the stake?

........and so, after a brief period of uneasy peace, the great STW Pie Wars unexpectedly erupted into brutal hostilities.

Again.

Edit: I'm out - Battle fatigue - You win this battle Fidel Gastro but not ze War !

As has been discussed many times on here, its not a pie unless it is completely encased in pastry. Certainly none of this heresy from PP

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thisisnotaspoon - Member

And what do you call it when it's made with venison?

Cottage pie.

I believe I have some authority on the matter, and can safely say that if you wish to call something a pie, a pie it shall be. Nit-picking over the expansiveness of indigestible flour-based casing is a pastime reserved for bitter northerners.

A stew with a lid IS A PIE.

it really isn't.

So why is lamb special?

You've done it now....

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Oh yes it is!

It's the only pie I like, I can't have it taken away from me!

It's potatoes on mince. Not a pie.

And what do you call it when it's made with venison?

A disappointment.

So why is lamb special?

Because they are cute and fluffy.

Apple pie for dessert last night

A whole sharing-size pie eaten between me, a 5 year old and a 4 year old. Good finish to a good dinner!

I believe I have some authority on the matter, and can safely say that if you wish to call something a pie, a pie it shall be. Nit-picking over the expansiveness of indigestible flour-based casing is a pastime reserved for bitter northerners.

Right up the last word I was agreeing.

Stoner - Member

I believe I have some authority on the matter

Yeah! Stoner has a finger in every pie!

All nine pies.

A stew with a lid IS A PIE.

No, it's a stew with a hat. A terminally disappointing pie analogue for the taste-free, lazy and desperate.

I believe I have some authority on the matter

Unless your surname is Patak, you can FRO.

It's potatoes on mince. Not a pie.

I agree, but on the other hand, everyone knows exactly what is meant by fish, shepherd's or cottage pie.

Yeah they know that a fish pie is revolting.

Stoner - Member

I believe I have some authority

And R Kelly believes he can fly, yet neither are true.

What is true is that pies are encased with pastry, and R Kelly garners sexual gratification from urinating on children.

Pick your side Stoner,
PICK YOUR SIDE!!! 👿

ALERT: Spanner in works

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Are you going to try to stand by your assertion now, stoner?

A stew with a lid IS A PIE.

No it's a LIE. A Pie needs pastry on all sides, especially the bottom and sides with the top being the least important.

EDIT: wow a lot of posts in the 10 minutes between reading and posting...

It's a real pie as long as you put a real cottage in it.

A Pie needs pastry on all sides, especially the bottom and sides [b]with the top being the least important[/b].

Whoooah there, you're in danger of confusing your pies with your tarts, and you don't want to do that.

When you go to a pub and order a pie, you should be presented with this...

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the legendary cow pie in the George Hotel in Keswick, which I shall be parting in on Saturday night, and the pinnacle of the art form

Anything presented in a ceramic container is quite frankly justification for burning the premises down

^^^ Note the pastry on the sides.....

WAIT A MINUTE! 😯

Its part of an enormous pie which would have been fully pastry-encased. Whats important is the density. Note the solidity, even when unconstrained by pastry. The stuff that you get in ceramic bowls with a lid is effectively soup. And putting some puff pastry over a bowl off soup does not a pie make

Are you going to try to stand by your assertion now, stoner?

Stoner's Pie Law still stands - if it is called a pie, it is a pie.

Etymologically one might say that what Maccy D's have done there is made a fruit-based sausage roll. However, they want to call it a pie, so a pie it shall be.

Whats important is the density.

woah there. Are you changing the rules now you know you're losing the battle?

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That's a pie.

No rules are being changed. When this thing of beauty was cooked, it was cooked fully encased in pastry. This is a portion of said pie.

If you need a ladle to serve it, it can't be a pie, even with the token addition of a piece of puff pastry

R Kelly - Member

R Kelly's Law still stands - if it is called R Kelly, it is R Kelly.

Careful what you wish for... 💡

[b]PROPIEGANDA[/b]

prop-ie-gan-da

[prop-eye-gan-duh]

[i]noun [/i]

1.

information, ideas, or rumors deliberately spread widely by food based dictators to propagate the continued tyranny of pastry based hegemony

2.

the deliberate spreading of such information, rumors, etc.

😆

Stop oppressing me Fidel!

binners - Member

If you need a ladle to serve it, it can't be a pie, even with the token addition of a piece of puff pastry

Absolutely.
Pie-buts exist because you can slap buttered bread above and below a pie.
One cannot achieve this with a soupy, hatted abomination.

#alternativetruth

Bottom crust
Top crust
Two crust

All pies

Cream pie being the obvious acception 😯

Stoner's Pie Law still stands - if it is called a pie, it is a pie.

You could not be more wrong. You could try to be more wrong, but you would not be successful.

Bottom crust
Top crust
Two crust

Flan.
Stew.
Pie.

I would also argue that cottage/shepherd's pie is what kicked off this trend for serving perfectly good food in towers. They're essentially a nice potato and mince dinner stacked up and made somehow less tasty. While I'll accept their name for the sake of clarity they aren't pies to me.

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One assumes that a decent pie could be fashioned from a cottage pie in the style of the butter pie. One simply needs to encase said Cottage Pie into a Pie thus making it a pie?