What's also interesting is how obsessed many non-Apple owners seem to be with Apple products.
Apple owner here. Does that allow me to criticise when I'm prepared to look at something without putting on my rose tinted iSpecs?
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What's also interesting is how obsessed many non-Apple owners seem to be with Apple products.
Its like the STW atheists' obsession with religion - distinctly odd. Going back to OP, I am surprised at each of the problems listed. To me ipads have been successful because they have a clear market segment and deliver a product that hits that segment's needs very, very well. I am normally a real laggard re anything techie, but was an early adopter of Ipads.....no disappointments at all apart from original cost. I get tremendous satisfaction from it mutliple times a day. Why, because it works and does what I need brilliantly.
Yup, feel free aracer - not denying there are issues - certain things massively frustrate me about Apple, but generally I find their stuff very well thought out and reliable. I think their marketing creates a false impression that everything is totally perfect every time, but then who believes everything you are told by advertising?
Perhaps there is a little grumpiness about the likes of the BBC & Flickr issuing the new apps in IOS only when it's not the biggest platform these days.
The practical reasons for this have been gone over many times - more devices/versions of Android makes development/testing a much bigger job. One of the advantages of Apple's approach. No point moaning about the BBC when it's a fundamental issue with your choice of device.
I'm trying to convince my wife to get an iPad for the house, and so far she's resisting on the grounds that she doesn't want to be yet another Apple sheep. Sort of understandable,
Irrational purchasing decisions are the norm. Look at white jeans, softroader vehicles and superdry clothing for example.
I get tremendous satisfaction from it mutliple times a day.
Steady on, I'm not sure that's healthy.
Grum - I thought that might need an edit, but had more faith in my fellow forum-ites!!! 😉
I think that for me a 5 inch or 6 inch phone would be ideal. Then jump up in size to a laptop with real key board, printer drivers and proper photo editing software
This. I find my Galaxy Note 2 fine for daytime stuff and is still pocketable. Laptop for other stuff.
Daughter has an iPhone 4 and I have no idea why anyone would want one of those horrible things either. Nice enough to look at, but it ends there for me. Dislike iTunes and dislike the UI. Just my opinion though, no problem with people who do like them.
not denying there are issues - certain things massively frustrate me about Apple, but generally I find their stuff very well thought out and reliable. I think their marketing creates a false impression that everything is totally perfect every time
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but then who believes everything you are told by advertising?
You have to ask that on a thread full of fanbois? 😉
You have to ask that on a thread full of fanbois?
You forgot the haters who are there to keep the discussion on an even keel.
I think their marketing creates a false impression that everything is totally perfect every time
I don't think I have seen any Microsoft advertising featuring the 'blue screen of death' ?
Daughter has an iPhone 4 and I have no idea why anyone would want one of those horrible things either.
Again, why has it provoked such a strong reaction of disgust? I really don't get it. I love my IPhone 4S - it's a great bit of kit - but you'll not see me slating Samsung Galaxy or Google stuff. I'm sure they're also very good. 😕
I don't think I have seen any Microsoft advertising featuring the 'blue screen of death' ?
Not intentionally..
Again, why has it provoked such a strong reaction of disgust? I really don't get it. I love my IPhone 4S
But you say you [b]love[/b] yours? 🙄
Yes I 'love it' ie I think it's great. However I don't feel the need to denigrate other devices in order to feel better about my choice.
Don't really see where the need is for the eye roll smiley TBH - pretty obvious distinction between those two things. Nice selective quoting too.
I've used one and really don't like it. I think it's horrible. Simples
Its funny though, check all the reviews and they're pretty glowing in general - probably millions of happy customers out there. But it's 'horrible'? Really? Or just not quite to your taste? Again, some people just seem very keen to prove they're not 'sheeple'.
ALL of these recent high end smartphones are absolutely amazing devices IMO, yet the number of people moaning on about how one is better than the other (which means the other one must be AWFUL) is just ridiculous.
Why is Apple's share price falling (genuine question)?
Why is Apple's share price falling (genuine question)?
Increasing competition from Android platforms and worries that without Jobs they'll return to their old less profitable ways?
Is it really a hard concept to grasp? I don't like it. I didn't like the UI on her iPod touch. Similarly I had a Nokia N97 mini and I hated that with a passion.
iPad's are a bit 'Ford Mondeo' really - pretty good at what they do, but awfully common 😀
Why is Apple's share price falling (genuine question)?
Profits, although substantial, were not as high as expected.
Not going to get an iPad, despite being an avid iPhone user. Can't see the point, I have tried a few types too, Apple, Android etc.
I was talking about this to my wife last night - I think some people buy things like that and the stuff they can do gives them more to do. I can imagine that if you use one for work then it's pretty useful (a friend of mine is a computer animator and it's pretty much essential for him in so many ways).
My iPhone does pretty much anything I need to be done on the internet so I don't need another device letting me do new tasks better and easier that I was never doing in the first place....... 😉
My iPhone does pretty much anything I need to be done on the internet so I don't need another device
I spent a couple of years using the iPhone as my "sofa surfer" device. Then I got an iPad.
Now the vast majority of sofa surfing is done on the iPad. (I still use the iPhone for the odd casual read or when I can't be arsed getting up to get the iPad 🙂 )
Plus the tablet means I can read magazines, which you can't really do effectively on the phone.
Great thread guys, just read through it over lunch. Some of apologistic comments are comedy gold. No SD slot? That's a feature, means you can't lose cards! Can't print? Obviously that's a Windows issue!
Fact of the matter is, iPads are really good. Android tablets are very good, bargain bucket devices aside. They both do similar jobs in slightly different ways, and have pros and cons for each. To say one platform is inherently "better" than the other is just brand snobbery.
I have a Nexus 7. Would I swap it for an iPad Mini? No chance. Is it "better"? No, I simply prefer it, it's better [i]for me[/i] personally.
I'd say Ipads are much more Audi than Ford.
Plus the tablet means I can read magazines, which you can't really do effectively on the phone.
Can you not read normal magazines? Like, the paper kind?? Odd.
I had them down as VW Golfs
Can you not read normal magazines? Like, the paper kind?? Odd.
Well yes, I could go down to the shop and browse the poor selection of scribblings on dead trees like some kind of Neanderthal.
But this is the 21st Century. I'm living in the future. I may not have a hoverboard yet, but I like being able to carry a dozen magazines, some books and some movies on a device I can easily slip down the side of the couch.
Besides I find I can never get the embedded videos to play properly on those paper magazines. 😀
Increasing competition from Android platforms and worries that without Jobs they'll return to their old less profitable ways?
Would be interesting if true, and makes sense to me.
Profits, although substantial, were not as high as expected.
Profits are reported quarterly yet there seems to have been a steady "daily" slide since September. Perhaps its a combination of both, consumers providing feedback through their purchasing (and hence profits) rather than analyists' view on the company future.
2 years ago I bet on Apple, today I bet on Google. It'll be interesting to see how things develop.
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It is also more embarrassing buying pron in a shop and the selection isn’t as comprehensive.
I'd say Ipads are much more Audi than Ford.
I'd put them more at the mobility scooter end of the personal transport metaphor.
The issue here is that there's basically two ways of doing things, the Apple way and (in their eyes) the wrong way. I'm not commenting on whether this is a good or bad thing, but it's always been like this and probably always will be. They've always been as much a design company as a technology company and (if you believe the rumors) Jobs had already planned out how products were going to evolve for many years after his death.No SD slot? That's a feature, means you can't lose cards! Can't print? Obviously that's a Windows issue!
It's actually quite interesting (to me anyway) that it's taken the iPad a couple of years for the rest of the world to start to catch up with it's "vision". It was obviously intended to be a completely cloud-based product but the infrastructure for that didn't really exist when it was released!
Anyway, flame on!
Using the words "sheeple", "iSheep" or "fanbois" automatically renders the rest of your argument invalid, really.
(And I like how this iPad just changed "invalid" to "inlaid")
I had them down as VW Golfs
No definately Audi, same internals as a Skoda/Android, but looks flashier and costs more.
looks flashier and costs more
And built better.
In fact, the only company that seems to have got close to Apple on build quality is Samsung – I can see them increasingly becoming Apple’s major competitor. But Apple still wins on having the vision to do things first, Samsung just replicates the same vision but cheaper.
I was photographing an IT conference a few months ago - mostly freelance IT consultants. As a rough estimate around 90% of them had Apple laptops.
If Apple products are all really as overpriced, rubbish and style-over-substance as many people here seem to be claiming, why do so many people who make their living from computers use them? More 'sheeple' I suppose.
the only company that seems to have got close to Apple on build quality is Samsung
Who ironically manufacture quite a few Apple parts.
How do you ironically manufacture something?
Personally I think the build quality of HTC is better than Samsung
How do you ironically manufacture something?
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Is that from the Olympics opening ceremony grum?
The only question in the OP and the title is " ipads-why are they taking over the world?"
which I read as why are they so popular over other similar devices?
Now all the products mentioned are pretty much the same thing really.
The iPad does nothing any of the specd devices from Google/Asus etc can't .
The Android platform does undoubtedly give you a lot more freedom. Although I accept the majority of pad users do little more than surf the net, view pictures etc basic stuff and need it to do little more and be happy why wouldn't they.
some others may wish to do a little more nothing complicated maybe use of a DLNA controller for streaming through their own choice of media players and libraries or transferring files of any type how they want.
This is where Apple let themselves down and seem to find the need to purposely limit how the device can be used.
They even now added an authentication chip to the charger cable of all things! So they can sell to their loyal customers at 10x the price of a USB mini it's a bit of a low blow , no?
Everyone else is working towards standards where Apple are doing the opposite.
This is why I am genuinely puzzled as to why people are still putting up with this shit.
I seriously think the Answer to the question is simply fashion .
A lot of people are catching on though and pretty soon their bubble will burst IMO
A lot of people are catching on though and pretty soon their bubble will burst IMO
As will a lot of iNotSheep when it happens. Into big sticky messes.
some others may wish to do a little more nothing complicated maybe use of a DLNA controller for streaming through their own choice of media players and libraries or transferring files of any type how they want.This is where Apple let themselves down and seem to find the need to purposely limit how the device can be used.
I play movies from a DLNA server just fine. Through my own choice of media player that was freely available on the App Store.
I seriously think the Answer to the question is simply fashion .
Maybe for some. But I think it is far less of an influence than many seem to believe. Despite the "ignorant Sheeple" nonsense there are plenty of iPhone/iPad users who have plenty of computer knowledge and still choose Apple.
(me for one)
