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[Closed] iOS 6 - No more Street View. Booo!!!

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I cycled past a street view car last month. I was excited about my riding being featured on street view, until i noticed the driver was parked and eating his lunch.

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Here's something else you may miss out from having on your Apple device, the right to film...

Airplane mode?


 
Posted : 19/09/2012 5:07 pm
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The update is now available to download


 
Posted : 19/09/2012 6:09 pm
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OMG! OMG! OMG!

I checked 10 minutes ago and wasn't there so just popped up.


 
Posted : 19/09/2012 6:13 pm
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The big problem with the ios6 maps app by all accounts is its lack of accuracy in locating places. Seems a quite basic bit of functionality but I rely on the iphone map app to find shops, restaurants, bars etc when I don't have a precise address so it could be interesting with this new one.

I've seen this, from an American who just seems to have issues with it. Seeing as how the info comes from TomTom, and other sources, I can't imagine it'll be any less accurate than TomTom on the iPhone.
I never use Google for navigation anyway, too much of a hassle having to rely on a data connection and hammering my data allowance.


 
Posted : 19/09/2012 6:23 pm
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can you not order and reserve pick up at the store from Apple site?

Nope. Checked that out already. Preorder online/over phone is for home delivery only, and that's expected to be 2nd week in October. Which is fine, but I'll be away that week.

I'm not really in a rush, but I might have some spare time and proximity to n Apple store in my favour. I'll give it a shot. Gotta be in to win! 🙂


 
Posted : 19/09/2012 6:51 pm
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The update to iOS 6 was surprisingly quick for a 900mb download and no problems verifying like iOS 5.
Safari is bloody quick.


 
Posted : 19/09/2012 6:56 pm
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IMHO the maps app is crap, I used to use it for searching locally, the new app is rubbish,
No searching,
No street view

Not good, roll on the google app ,


 
Posted : 19/09/2012 8:34 pm
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You can search in the search bar at the top.

Looks very nice but yes poor 3D coverage means lack of street view. Be good when Google release there's.


 
Posted : 19/09/2012 8:57 pm
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The Apple Maps satellite pic of my house is at least eight years old. Mmm, progress. At least the update was nice and easy.


 
Posted : 19/09/2012 9:04 pm
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Where's YouTube gone?


 
Posted : 19/09/2012 10:30 pm
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the app store.


 
Posted : 19/09/2012 10:31 pm
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MHO the maps app is crap, I used to use it for searching locally, the new app is rubbish,
No searching,

How ya mean no searching?


 
Posted : 19/09/2012 11:03 pm
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yeh wheres YOUTUBE gone??!!


 
Posted : 19/09/2012 11:33 pm
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yeh wheres YOUTUBE gone??!!

http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/youtube/id544007664?mt=8


 
Posted : 19/09/2012 11:35 pm
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Maps don't seem as good : (


 
Posted : 19/09/2012 11:38 pm
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since O'Darc isn't on, I have to ask....

...does it have flash?


 
Posted : 19/09/2012 11:39 pm
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Maps don't seem as good : (

In what way?


 
Posted : 19/09/2012 11:53 pm
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does siris now cover uk bussiness?


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 12:16 am
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The Apple Maps satellite pic of my house is at least eight years old

You're lucky if you can tell that, the satellite pic of our area is in such low resolution that you can't see the road, never mind something as small as a house.


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 12:17 am
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I can't even see our village and the nearest town is the vaguest of images in the satellite view. Aside from turn by turn this seems to be a retrograde step of about 10 years on the mapping front. Will assign icon to my not in use folder when the google arrives.


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 5:25 am
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So it seems this slapfest between Apple and Google has been really great for consumers. Won't be updating till I'm back from Germany but some of the map images being posted on the web seem, well, a bit shit. Shirley google maps will be free won't it?


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 6:03 am
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You can search in the search bar at the top.

Looks very nice but yes poor 3D coverage means lack of street view. Be good when Google release [u][b]there's.[/b][/u]

Posted from an apple device? 😉


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 6:40 am
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The more I use it the worse it gets. Just tried finding my mother's house in the highlands. Postcode is not recognised , the name of the hamlet is not there and the A road near it has had the road number removed and replaced with the word "highland". Highland seems to be the name of a lot of roads according to Apple! The satellite image is just a green pixelated blur. There is no way you could find her house with this app.

No idea if it's better in the states but Apple should be ashamed to have released this without more investment first.


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 6:54 am
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Lets highlight some good map apps to fill the gap then.

These are all free (or maybe 69p):
NavFree - turn by turn directions, maps stored on device so no data needed
Waze - turn by turn and peer-to-peer live traffic info
MotionX GPS - multiple map styles with ability to download to device and navigate by gps waypoints (good for MTBing)
CycleStreets/BikeHub - route planning and turn-by-turn specifically for bikes
Cycle Network - full Sustrans maps


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 7:08 am
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Yup, my 4s is staying with iOS5 for the considerable future. Not least since (thanks to this thread) I've only just discovered streetview!


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 7:24 am
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Posted from an apple device?

Yup with added dyslexia it's spells dizarseta.


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 7:45 am
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The Apple maps are just awful. Just looking within 500m of where I live, the vast majority of things are wrong. The street layout is fine but the things I use the maps for like finding bars or petrol stations near where I am are useless. Apple insists there are two petrol stations within 200m of my flat, one in the middle of a pedestrian zone, one in a wooded park; neither are there.

Luckily I can tether my Nexus tablet to my phone, or use TomTom or use my in-car satnav. Waiting for the Google app.


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 8:00 am
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The Apple maps use TomTom so that's interesting, I never really used my for navigating anyway. I find any Satnav a pain in the backside so use the fashioned method of looking on a map.


 
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So it seems this slapfest between Apple and Google has been really great for consumers. Won't be updating till I'm back from Germany but some of the map images being posted on the web seem, well, a bit shit. Shirley google maps will be free won't it?

/OT

Not just in this arena though. The GPS logging software I use on the Mac, [url= http://www.rubitrack.com ]Rubitrack[/url], is losing Google maps in the next big upgrade, and switching to OSM. Which means I have gone from seeing what trail I just run, to what city I was near...if I am lucky. Google have every right to charge for their software, but it seems they don't have tiered charges for smaller developers, as the guy who makes the software stated that if he paid what Google, and Bing, wanted, then it would put them out of business straight away.

Grrrr!

/Back OT

I am going to to stick with 5.1.1 for the foreseeable. Never sure why people rush to upgrade to a new OS, whether mobile or desktop. Especially when it's a one way process for most.


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 8:08 am
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Part of me thinks that Google have been very canny in their business modelling. Provide (at low cost or free) a service, improve it so it becomes almost indispensable and a part of many peoples' software and daily routines, then ramp the price up whilst offering you own alternatives only available on Google platforms. Hmmmm


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 8:12 am
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Drac - They used a hybrid of TomTom, Wase and some company they bought. My guess is they bought base maps from TomTom (those are correct so far at least) and have sourced POIs etc from elsewhere.


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 8:13 am
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then ramp the price up whilst offering you own alternatives only available on Google platforms.

Not that I think Google are averse to screwing people over, but I don't think any useful service from Google that started free has gone paid?


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 8:15 am
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then ramp the price up whilst offering you own alternatives only available on Google platforms

Google = Ad revenue

So, there will be no charge, just increased adverts/data mining.


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 8:18 am
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A temporary measure.

If you have iOS 6 on your phone, point your Safari browser to maps.google.com and click the export button in the middle of the menu bar to save the app to your homescreen. Once installed, you'll now see "Google Maps" on your homescreen complete with its own appropriately designed app icon.


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 8:19 am
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but I don't think any useful service from Google that started free has gone paid?

That probably depends on what charges (nominal or not) have always been in place for third-party developers using their maps. Clearly those charges appear to be increasing (or other restrictions are being imposed) otherwise iPhone users would have had the same maps experience as android users, and the software company in Jamie's example wouldn't be having to change supplier.

What I was getting at was this: until a few years ago, few of us knew we wanted or "needed" high resolution satellite photos of everywhere we're ever likely to go, with location information for shops and restaurants to boot.

EDIT:

So, there will be no charge, just increased adverts/data mining.

Presumably there is now an increased charge to the company you were using as an example, else their next version of software would still use google?


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 8:19 am
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Presumably there is now an increased charge to the company you were using as an example, else their next version of software would presumably still use google?

Sorry, my post referred to the cost to end users rather than devs producing commercial software.


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 8:23 am
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I like the auto hide thing while on the Internet, makes the screen a bit bigger


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 8:35 am
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Bugger found this post a bit. Did os6 upgrade to find street view gone


 
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Sorry, my post referred to the cost to end users rather than devs producing commercial software.

Yeah, I gathered. I was trying to explain (badly, it seems) that by increasing their prices to devs, they are effectively increasing their ability to leverage more and more money. As a dev company you pay google a lot of money for their data (an amount now out of reach of some companies it seems), then you have a markedly superior product to market. Desirability goes up, more people pay, more...

EDIT @Jamie's EDIT: That rather illustrates the point. Apple didn't want to pay google and wanted to go their own way. Samsung now have a very big advantage over the iPhone, and Apple will have to pay a heck of a lot to make their maps better than google, or pay an equally large amount of money to grovel back to them...

EDIT EDIT EDIT: Bloody ninja editing!


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 8:36 am
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I use a cycle trainer (tacx) that is now charging £30 per year for the google earth plugin - seems a huge amount for having a minor function on their program, they claim that is what google is charging them, which seems an exorbitant charge.

Searching is absol crap on the maps now - apparently in suburbia we now have 2 coffee shops within 50 yards of me - I wonder in the house owners know , thank god I can still use google maps on safari


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 8:50 am
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he GPS logging software I use on the Mac, Rubitrack, is losing Google maps in the next big upgrade, and switching to OSM. Which means I have gone from seeing what trail I just run, to what city I was near...if I am lucky.

If OSM is crap near you then instead of moaning about it, get stuck in and improve it!
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Beginners%27_guide

OSM is often a [b]LOT[/b] better than Google maps, [url= https://getsatisfaction.com/endomondo/topics/openstreetmap-cejea ]as this feature request for Endomondo points out[/url].

Google Maps:
[img] [/img]

OpenStreetMap:
[img] [/img]

Getting back to the OP: quietly LOLing at all the folk only just discovering they had Street View. 🙄 Wonder what other handy features they are entirely unaware of? (Find My iPhone, iTunes U, geofencing, etc)


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 9:51 am
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iTunes U, geofencing, etc)

Do tell...

(in my defence, I've only had the thing a couple of months)


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 9:55 am
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Google: our motto is "Don't Be Evil" *

*(unless of course it is profitable or gives you a market advantage)

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Posted : 20/09/2012 9:55 am
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Apple really seem to have cocked this up....their first attempt at integrating a mapping and navigation system into iOS and its a shambles.
There are some amusing 'Apple maps fails' memes doing the round already, places spelled incorrectly, locations showing in the sea, Apple's much hyped 'flyover' view showing landmarks that are unrecognisable.

Shouldnt laugh really but i'm gobsmacked a company that trades on its devices being so 'intuitive' could release such cack....it all looks so naff and hurriedly thrown together.

The Statue of Liberty....obviously:

[URL= http://imageshack.us/a/img841/8268/appleliberty.jp g" target="_blank">http://imageshack.us/a/img841/8268/appleliberty.jp g"/> [/IMG][/URL]

Brooklyn Bridge....apparently:

[URL= http://imageshack.us/a/img856/3936/applebridge.jp g" target="_blank">http://imageshack.us/a/img856/3936/applebridge.jp g"/> [/IMG][/URL]

Duncaster?

[URL= http://imageshack.us/a/img222/663/appledoncaster.jp g" target="_blank">http://imageshack.us/a/img222/663/appledoncaster.jp g"/> [/IMG][/URL]


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 9:57 am
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Do tell...

iTunes U: basically there are hundreds of university/college courses available with video lectures, texts and coursework. Many of which are free and available through the "iTunes University" (iTunes U). It is a huge other source of material for iPhones/iPads that many people overlook - install the iTune U app and dive in.

Geofencing: when you set reminders (in the Reminders app) you can "geofence" them, which means set them so you are reminded when you arrive or leave a certain location (e.g. remind you to pick up milk when you leave work).


 
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