As the Mods are commenting I'm commenting too..
I enjoyed many a Fred thread.
A Few TJ threads
Can't remember a TSY thread.
And a couple of JuanSimon threads.
he didn't see the tinge of irony in that
Was he related to
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it could be really annoying to be on the same side as him in an argument
Yes I forgot about that 😆
I do recall withdrawing a few times when he turned up
I do recall withdrawing a few times when he turned up
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I do recall withdrawing a few times when he turned up
you go to some grim parties JY.
That's a thread about gun control, it's not a Gun Control Thread.
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it could be really annoying to be on the same side as him in an argument
Yeah - the bullies then picked on you as well.
6 pages & counting.
stw introspection at it's finest.
[quote=jekkyl ]6 pages & counting.
stw introspection at it's finest.
Were you surprised when you opened the thread and saw what it was about?
[i]stw introspection at it's finest. [/i]
it's been an interesting journey though the day 🙂
Haa looks like I killed it. Boom headshot!
One positive about this thread is that there hasn't been the same playground boasting from the folk who tore into TJ every thread he posted on. Must be working as well as nobody would have been asking who TJ was a year ago.
Haa looks like I killed it. Boom headshot!
WTF is that?
Its a 6 page long thread and folk replied to your post but you are right is was just you that killed it 😕
I dont know which is odder that you want to claim a kill or that you think this is one
I'm sure he was joking around dude 🙂
😯I do recall withdrawing a few times when he turned up
Try explaining that the next morning... 😉
Wonder why mtb forums need so much moderating?
TJ says:
Please let them know that I've been in touch, I appreciate the support that I would not ever come back under another name
I would not ever come back under another name
He's really committed to that tandem.
Y'know, after all this - the original question has not been answered.
What was the question? Was it about why TSY got banned?
what would it take for them to be allowed back?
Gave TJ a lift back from Glentress one night a few years back and had a good chat.
Have been away from the forums for a while so missed what seems to have been a falling out. Is the demise of Wednesday ride in Pentlands related ? Hope not.
Nothing wrong with a good argument but appreciate I may have missed stuff. He was always good value on a Wednesday evening !
Its because of the demise of the pentlands.
I like TJ so bringing him back is fine with me.
I like the way he presented his perspectives.
However, deep down all of you know that I am right and that all of you should bow down to me as your Dear Leader.
Yeah, I only rode the pentlands because they were a fetid boring swamp, now that it's all buff dusty high speed singletrack I cannot be bothered.
(I think the reason for the (temporary) demise of the pentlands rides was originally when Mark was out of action and not organising them, leading into a very bad winter, then Thebikechain closing, which took away some of the focus- they weren't shop rides but that was where the core usually came from)
But hey, the hills are still there and I understand there will be a wednesday next week...
Can't come, but it sounds nice.
I miss Barnes.
His delight in dragging threads way off tangent.
And his sheer bloody mindedness.
I do miss TJ, who's a genuinely decent bloke.
I'd like to see him back.
I miss Fred too, most of the time.
Yes, this place no longer has the feel it used to have, but neither does it have the 8 page, ego-fuelled, toys out the pram, joysucking tossfests of yore.
CBA reading 6 pages at 5.19am, but....
....as a notably antagonistic poster at times, I've flirted with the banhammer on a few occassions (seem to have managed to behave myself of late) and have had many a spat with TJ & Fred.
It is a more peaceful place without them, but I had nothing against either of them and wouldn't mind them coming back. Maybe I wouldn't escape the cull were they here though....
I miss Barnes.
His delight in dragging threads way off tangent.
And his sheer bloody mindedness.I do miss TJ, who's a genuinely decent bloke.
I'd like to see him back.I miss Fred too, most of the time.
As above. But things change, whether we like it or not. Things are of their time. Mark will always run the forum the way he wants to, despite the protestations of free-minded individuals or 'nut-jobs' that it's their forum...
Regardless, it feels very dull, albeit with the occasional smattering of (homo) erotic posts that are a little 'close to the bone'.
Pun intended.
I think, after what was said to Mark by one of the banned that there's no chance of him being let back in
I am indifferent and had no real problem with either of them. I seldom got into debates with TJ but a few with Fred who wasnt averse to getting a bit nasty but that didnt really bother me and this is the only forum I use regularly because it is still very civil and mostly grown up 😯
Both of them simply argued people into paralysis though.
FWIW the forum is a much tamer place since the cull. It's still ok, but less interesting and less opportunity to reflect upon and reconsider long held views. The kind of things the old folks used to jump on, closed down some kinds of discussions but opened others up. The current regime does the same thing. There are a number of topics which don't get much of an airing because the critical mass is against them, yet there are other views which are allowed to flourish because there are not enough people here to argue that they are unacceptable. It's different and the edge has gone a bit and the voice of the people has gone a bit and we all selffcensor a bit.
So how long before the next "why was TJ banned thread"? I give it a week. Getting a bit tiring tbh.
People even complained at me, say I won't be remembered as a big hitter unlike TJ. So frickin' what! I don't want to be remembered as the argumentative guy who just didn't know when to shut up, even after previous bans. Or as one of the persistent baiters.
I'm here to read about bike stuff, ask bike questions, answer bike questions, find places to ride...
Place is much better since the cull. Apart from the weekly, where's TJ? (Stick it in the forum FAQ - he's been gone for ages and won't be back for long time yet)
I find it weird that its still brought up. I think it was around the time I started here reasonably regularly but a forum is like a community but owned and managed by STW and the mods.
I like the forum, with or without TJ et al. I would ask does TJ want to come back, if so he needs to make his peace with the mods and understand the rules, as applied by the mods.
I think we can all fall foul of the rules at times as there is little context but I think it must be a year now since the bans.
Posters get it wrong as do the mods on occasion I am sure but I think they are fair and have changed decisions in the past where they have been given bad information, equally shorter bans. The community needs to move on, or perhaps vote! But its not our forum, ok we make it work but some will go new members will come along life goes on.
I do disagree with the whole concept of big hitters though. ig hitter in an internet forum WOW thats great!
It's different and the edge has gone a bit and the voice of the people has gone a bit and we all selffcensor a bit.
This.
It makes the place much duller than it once was.
I do disagree with the whole concept of big hitters though. ig hitter in an internet forum WOW thats great!
It was never used as a term of endearment and it was term of abuse rather than of respect.
Like the "edinburgh defence" it was a name calling exercise.
Not saying there was not a point to Big Hitter and some irony when cynicAl used it but it was essentially a way to be rude about folk you disagreed with either in content or posting volume [ though of course they were the baddies]
I also agree it is all a bit duller these days but that is what the mods want - ie a quiet life for them and less complaints
The site is still getting new members/more visits so i doubt they are worried at STW towers.
I'm here to read about bike stuff, ask bike questions, answer bike questions, find places to ride...
There's a forum for that very near here!
FWIW, I'm one of those that started to avoid the interminable TJ & Elfinsafety threads. It was never worth responding to them once either had chipped in. If a few other folk felt the same way then they were hardly acting as a spur to mass participation. For those that still miss that form of discussion, why not fly across to Belfast and start discussing religion in a pub.Take a flute for when it gets quieter.
Ah Junky, maybe the irony was lost on me.
But thats why I like it here, most if not all will explain stuff. I like everyone here and the variety of posts. Sometimes informative, amusing, heart wrenching, we get it all. Sometime the real humanity of the folk on here comes out which is fantastic to see as it helps restore a little of my faith in humanity.
And it is ran pretty well.
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I'm here to read about bike stuff, ask bike questions, answer bike questions, find places to ride...
I'd strongly suggest not reading or commenting on a thread that's clearly discussing a topic you find tiring, in a forum that's not a bike forum then. [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/forum/bike-chat ]This is quite good for bike stuff though, or so I've heard.[/url]
It's different and the edge has gone a bit and the voice of the people has gone a bit and we all selffcensor a bit.
True and there are many factors involved, not least that many contributors are now considerably older (and wiser?) than when they were first here.
I think it now represents a more 'balanced' point of view, and I for one, much prefer the fact that more people appear willing to post without the inevitable sneering self-righteous responses guaranteed by one or two of the banned, which must have put many off and given the impression that it was a very cliquey unfriendly environment, which it most definitely is not!
Long may STW continue and evolve 😉
^^^ You can say that again!
and again
Triple fap.. 😛
