[url= http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100090027/lord-fellowes-is-right-posh-people-are-the-last-persecuted-minority/ ]Posh people are the only minority it is acceptable to persecute[/url]?
Thanks, but my mind is about as open as it's ever been - perhaps I should also declare an interest - my Grandad was Singaporian so I spent much of my childhood fighting loads of racist schoolkids (and not out of choice). One persistent offender (Oi - ya fuskin chinkie **** - yer ma still working doon the fuskin whoor-hoose? etc) even tried to run me over when he passed his test, screaming racist abuse all the while.... Still get the odd comment now, from 'grownups'.
So you'll forgive me for not changing my stance. Racial hatred is a a nasty, deep-rooted, historically documented issue. Slagging someone off for their hair colour / funny face is just kids' play in comparison and really shouldn't be confused.
Slagging someone off for their hair colour / funny face is just kids' play in comparison and really shouldn't be confused.
Nope, sorry mate, but as someone (not ginger) who was seriously bullied at school, I really can't agree with you on that one.
Nasty, deep rooted and historical racial hatred may be, but that doesn't make it any more of a burden to bear by the victims than nasty, deep rooted hatred motivated by any other feature.
What IS different about racial hatred, is that it's directed at a large group of people. And I think it's for that reason that it's considered a worse sin than just plain old hatred of a funny looking kid at school.
Well, there's proof you're wrong, U-R. ^ 😐
Sorry, but I don't make the rules...
geetee has just said what i was meaning more or less.
just that i dont have the wordmanship to do it like he does.
Point me at a ginger who's been lynched because of his hair. Very different. It's only [i]VERY[/i] recently that casual racism has been stopped in workplaces / schools - it used to be fine to all gang up on the black kid / worker* and make their lives an absolute misery.
*Still happens here in NE England, but don't want to get into a South Tyneside style Twitter fiasco so will not be pointing any internet fingers...!
Oh and gee-tee - I don't doubt your story and appreciate that any form of persecution is very bad news - just making the point that IN COMPARISON to generations of people being killed, injured and persecuted it's pretty small beans.
Not if you have red hair it's not.
Point me at a ginger who's been lynched because of his hair.
Erm, did you check that link in my post above? Bloke stabbed for having red hair.
You say you've suffered racial abuse, but you can't see that having a go at someone for having red hair (a [b]racial[/b] characteristic) is nowhere near as bad?
or if you are fat, gay, unintelligent, a gypsy or a 29r rider.
Point me at a ginger who's been lynched because of his hair.
I can point you to plenty of funny looking kids that have taken their own lives because their life was made miserable by bullying. It's tantamount to the same thing.
UR I think I understand your argument but I think you're making it in a way that's not getting your point across.
I think what you're trying to say is that racial hatred is not just harmful to the individual, it's harmful to society. It creates a pervasive underclass because it is a hatred that is uniformly characterised and therefore easily recognised. It's because it is uniform that it creates division.
That's a different problem to the personal experience of hatred and it's one that isn't characteristic of say a ginger kid who happened to be bullied at school.
or a 29r rider
In fairness though Ton; they deserve it... 😈
Although your double negatives are confusing, I'll have you know I'm three quarters Scottish. Racist 😀You say you've suffered racial abuse, but you can't see that having a go at someone for having red hair (a racial characteristic) is nowhere near as bad?
geetee - that's exactly what I'm saying. Not getting involved in the 29er thing....
Erm, did you check that link in my post above? Bloke stabbed for having red hair
I suspect that bloke was stabbed after a routine argument that (at some point) involved somebody mentioning he was ginger. I seriously doubt that they stabbed him because he was ginger. Every argument in a pub incorporates "fat bastard" "cockernee git( 😉 )" "lanky ****er" or whatever (including "black bastard" I'm sure). WHen a fight then starts it's not always true that they were picked on for being lanky/fat/black
If you spill somebody's pint and don't apologise, you'll have a decent chance of getting into a fight - you cockernee git
Oh, so know you're hypothesising over what happened, to suit your argument...
Nope. Not going to work. You're wrong. Just accept it.
You non-London dwelling savage. 😉
Oh, and if I spill someone's pint, they apologise to [i]me[/i] for their pint getting in my way...
Gercha.
soz mate - I thought you was just a gobby dwarf 😯