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[url= http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/farage-blames-immigrants-for-being-stuck-on-the-m4/ar-BBgsKQk?ocid=UP97DHP ]Prat[/url]


 
Posted : 07/12/2014 11:29 pm
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"Around 100 Ukip supporters had paid £25 each to attend the event,"

I couldn't not mention that.


 
Posted : 07/12/2014 11:32 pm
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****


 
Posted : 07/12/2014 11:45 pm
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Why won't someone take him out.


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 10:22 am
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He's already married isn't he? To a German (but they're ok because, well, you know...)


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 10:23 am
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@ukiptraffic is worth a follow on twitter.

@ukiptrumpton were on the case too;

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Posted : 08/12/2014 10:28 am
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He's on Question time this week.

Also featuring.... Russell Brand.

Should be a laugh.


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 10:43 am
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Two arseholes in one place, worth a nuke if ever I saw it.


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 10:46 am
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Posted : 08/12/2014 10:46 am
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I can't decided if he's a total idiot or an evil genius. While to us the comments like that one seem idiotic I can just imagine a significant element of the Daily Mail readership agreeing, and he doesn't need all that big a percentage of the population voting for UKIP for them to be the 3rd party in terms of the overall UK vote.


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 10:47 am
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I'll say anything to get [s]my stupid face in the press[/s] hard-of-thinking, small-minded ****-wits to vote for me

FTFY


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 10:51 am
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I can't decided if he's a total idiot or an evil genius

An evil idiot?


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 11:00 am
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I thought it was funny until I read the coments section and all the "still voting UKIP" and "he's right" comments.


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 11:24 am
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Immigrants?

MI5 working at the behest of the Govt more like.

I'm sure they can create a traffic jam on the M4 when they need to.


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 11:27 am
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Can somebody please create a Kickstarter project to secure funding to employ people, from now until the election, to repeatedly punch him in the conkers?

I'll back it


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 11:30 am
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People will vote for him because the alternatives are not much better (some are worse).

They will also vote because we allow stupid people to vote. Just as we seem to allow stupid people to stand for election.


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 11:33 am
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People will vote for him because the [s]alternatives are not much better[/s] paper they read tells them to

FTFY

Though this is true of any political party and one of the reasons nobody is interested in doing a broadcast media type job on them..


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 11:43 am
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People will vote for him because he addresses the issues that people are concerned about head on rather than hushing them up. The problem is that those concerns are largely hyped up and created by the media playing on unfounded fears rather than the facts.

Since the Tories won't address the concerns openly (to avoid scaring off the xeno right) and Labour essentially follow meekly behind the Tories, UKIP are seen as being in touch. Scary stuff...

Hopefully the greater success that UKIP are experiencing will lead to greater scrutiny and people's inherent common sense will start to see people seeing them for what they are beyond some crowd pleasing soundbites. Scary alternatives though 🙁


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 11:50 am
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Immigrants?

MI5 working at the behest of the Govt more like.

I'm sure they can create a traffic jam on the M4 when they need to.

As someone who used to commute home from Reading to Cardiff every Friday afternoon I can assure you that the combined might of MI5, MI6, Austin Powers, the CIA and the Illuminati couldn't stop it from happening.

It's not immigration, it's the whole of Wales trying to get home for the weekend and 3 lanes of busy traffic first stopping to pay for the bridge and then being filtered into 2 lanes to get through Bryn Glas.


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 11:51 am
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So why doesn't Which magazine do a report on which party to vote for and all the papers publish it, and nothing else on them.

We would still probably end up with rubbish. The least worse is still very poor.


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 11:53 am
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I burnt my tongue on a pie the other day, BECAUSE IMMIGRANTS.


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 11:55 am
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As a life long supporter of proportional representation who feels his vote as been a complete waste his entire adult life it pains me to say this, but our first past the post system might just be the only thing that saves us from having this odious little twerp as member of the cabinet in 6 months time.


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 11:57 am
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So actually P-Jay, you're suggesting its a Welsh conspiracy? Crafty buggers! I'm sure Nige considers them all bloody foreigners anyway!


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 11:58 am
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Those bloody Welsh immigrants >:(


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 12:02 pm
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I find UKIP a truly depressing phenomenon, Farage has basically created a public conduit for the most mean spirited, bitter, and ignorant elements of the British character.

The fact that people are happily voting for a party who they can only name one member of and whose policies are a total mystery to them beyond Europe Immigration terrifies me as well.

Working class people voting for UKIP's economic policies is possibly one of the clearest examples of turkeys voting for Christmas that I can think of.

Although the morbidly obese, beer-swilling Americans protesting against Obamacare probably pushes them close.


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 12:02 pm
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Farage has basically created a public conduit for the most mean spirited, bitter, and ignorant elements of the British character.

The Daily Mail already existed, but I agree with you in principle.


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 12:06 pm
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I find UKIP a truly depressing phenomenon, Farage has basically created a public conduit for the most mean spirited, bitter, and ignorant elements of the British character.

I think its worse than that. People who aren't naturally mean spirited and bitter are voting for them out of desperation too. Just to shake things up.

If UKIP stands for anything, it stands as a monument to the total and utter failure of mainstream political parties, cut off as they are in their Westminster ivory towers, to even remotely connect with a huge chunk of the electorate.


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 12:10 pm
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+1


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 12:11 pm
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Welsh immigrants. He's right you know - it's them.


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 12:15 pm
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So actually P-Jay, you're suggesting its a Welsh conspiracy? Crafty buggers! I'm sure Nige considers them all bloody foreigners anyway!

I'd love to say it was, I don't want the fear mongering ****er anywhere in the principality, but sadly it seems 100 people where keen enough to see him to stump up £25 for the privilege.

I've just had a thought, perhaps he was late because he told the driver to head for Chepstow to avoid paying £6 to use the French bridge?


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 12:16 pm
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Oh, and technically 'we*' were here long before the Anglo Saxons - you're all immigrants to us 😉 - but we love you anyway (rugby / football not permitting).

*I can't include myself, being from a Family from Cardiff Docks my DNA is made of all sorts of sources from the major port cities of the world ha ha.


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 12:18 pm
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People who aren't naturally mean spirited and bitter are voting for them out of desperation too. Just to shake things up

You mean like the upsurge in votes for people like the BNP a few years ago? Yes, I can see that. A protest vote, but with potentially dire consequences.

I like the idea of a Which? type report. Shame though that I've always seen Which? as the consumer goods supplement to The Mail on Sunday.


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 12:23 pm
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What I don't understand is that none of the media are attempting to publicise all UKIP's other policies, not just the Europe/Immigration ones.

There are a whole load of them that would rattle a few cages if they were being aired as regularly as immigration but for some reason they seem frightened to even mention them.

I don't find it funny any more, it's really beginning to scare the crap out of me.


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 12:36 pm
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The Daily Mail already existed,
- Very true and a whole other discussion.

Perhaps I should have said Farage provides a political conduit for the resentment and bitterness felt by the Daily Mail reading segment of society.

However, UKIP's presence as a 'legitmate' political force alongside the Mail does offer both parties additional credence for their noxious brand of "It was better in the old days, I'm not racist but... we're just saying what you're all thinking" politics.


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 1:14 pm
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I think of UKIP as being there for when the Daily Mail isn't quite hitting the spot for bigotry and stupidity any more.

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Posted : 08/12/2014 1:25 pm
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I think its the fact that UKIPs policies aren't held up to any scrutiny at all tells you everything you need to know about the press we have in this country. Its tells me that the Mail/Express/Telegraph/Times et al broadly support their agenda

And that fact alone should convince anyone with anything between their ears not to vote for them


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 1:32 pm
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I don't think it really matters. Come election time we will very likely end up with another coalition.

Lab in bed with SNP, or Conservatives as a minority Gov.

UKIP wont have enough seats to push any minority over the threshold, and both parties would find it hard to go into a coalition with them.


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 1:37 pm
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UKIP will only win a couple of seats. If any. But thats not really the point. They're going to cause electoral havoc. And doesn't Farage know it. The blue-rinse/retired colonel vote that the tories took for granted is going to abandon them in numbers. Splitting the foaming-at-the-mouth, Mail reading vote, and possibly delivering labour MP's into previous Tory strongholds.

And the Middleton by-election should have finally woken labour up (I doubt it has though, the half-wits) if they thought they were only a threat to the Tories. Where UKIP came within a whisker of unseating Labour in a seat where you could normally shove a red rosette on a monkeys arse and it'd get elected.

And they're going to make marginal seats impossible to predict. I despise everything they represent, but this is giving the complacent westminster 'is it our turn now?' cabal the fright of their bloody lives.

Will it end up changing anything in reality? Who knows. Combine this with the SNP inroads into the labour vote north of the border, and I don't think anyone can predict the next election result, other than there's not going to be a workable majority for any one party.


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 1:44 pm
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So basically we will end up with a forced coalition that wont work and we will be in the same mess for years to come.

Its going to be even more of a waste of time voting than normal.


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 2:00 pm
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Well the ultimate nightmare is a Tory/Ukip coalition marching us back to the 19th century.

*shudders*

I think the lack of an overall majority could well be a good thing. Would you trust any of them with a majority at the moment? No... me neither. Maybe having to do some horse-trading and compromising to win support on individual issues might knock some arrogance out of the ****s in Westminster, and allow a bit more sense into proceedings.

I realise this is a hopelessly optimistic wish, but you never know.....


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 2:06 pm
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The Conservative and Labour parties are already coalitions between their left and right wings.

"It is clearly absurd to suggest heavy traffic on the M4 is caused by immigration, but through the laughter at his silly comments you can hear Ukip's dog-whistle politics of division."

To be fair to Farage, it's not really dog whistle politics if you [i]explicitly blame immigrants.[/i]


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 2:21 pm
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If we didn't have first past the post, who would win then ?


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 2:36 pm
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Its going to be even more of a waste of time voting than normal.

this is exactly the [u][b]wrong[/b][/u] attitude to take. By not voting you're giving people like the UKIP lovers far more chance of getting any power.

Apathy to voting is the biggest problem in the UK and it panders to the extremist views. Yes, I understand the whole Tory/Labour/LibDem 'oh they're just carbon copies of each other who don't think outside of Westiminter' but not voting at all is far worse than attempting to use your vote to stop something really potentially bad happening.

I have no idea how I'm going to be voting come next May but I'll be using it none the less to try & stop that cronie's Neo-Nazi buddies from getting any more power.


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 2:46 pm
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+1 to Pinkster

Part of the (possibly unintentional) genius of UKIP's approach that that by targeting bitter older people who feel 'left behind' by modern Britain they're taking advantage of one of that Demographic's key characteristics: They all vote.

YouGov's polling has been pretty comprehensive, the younger, better educated, happier and more active you are, the less likely you are to vote UKIP and the less likely you are to vote at all.

The other advantage they have is the 'purity of opposition' in that none of their crackpot schemes have had to survive contact with reality. Long term opposition groups (from the Lib Dems to Hamas) have always suffered from this when they finally do get a degree of power and suddenly have to accept the compromises and negotiation required get anything done.


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 3:02 pm
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The other advantage they have is the 'purity of opposition' in that none of their crackpot schemes have had to survive contact with reality.

Indeed. The main one being that as a right wing party, so by their nature 'business friendly', pretty much all business leaders want Britain to remain in the EU, and rather enjoy the benefits of ready supply of cheap labour from Eastern Europe. And given corporate power in this country, their demands trump everyone else by some distance. So the irony is that the one policy he/they have, is the one that he/they can't actually ever deliver on.

A thought that has no doubt never entered the head of the morons voting for them.


 
Posted : 08/12/2014 3:13 pm
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