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So, wife reads my emails & facebook messages when I'm not around. Has done for years. I never mentioned it, just put up with it. In her mind she was "vindicated" a couple of years ago when our relationship was a mess & I was a bit flirty with a female friend on email for a while, all of which my wife read. Fallout from that was dealt with and I knocked it on the head before anything started.

Two years later she's still checking up on me, saying the classic "if you've nothing to hide then why do you care if I read your emails". I suppose I should cut her some slack due to my previous (nearly) naughty behaviour, but it's getting a bit tedious and it's the principle of the matter really. Yes I could set up more effective security on the ipad & laptop so she can't get on, but really I don't think I should have to.

So, if I have nothing to hide (which is the case), should I care if she reads my emails?


 
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Posted : 31/10/2012 10:09 am
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I guess your counter points would be -
a) If you love and trust me, why do you want to read them?
b) I was going to organise a surprise holiday for you, but now I can't.


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 10:11 am
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Seriously? Change your passwords right away.

I'm sure I could hack into my partner's email if I wanted to, but even wanting to is sign of a relationship in trouble.


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 10:12 am
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Mate same situation here, tbh I just put up with it. I have nothing to hide so it really doesn't bother me. However I often make a comment when I know that my phone/iPad has been removed.


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 10:13 am
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Why did she begin checking on you in the first place? Did she suspect you had a bit on the side or was (is) she naturally insecure/nosey et al?


 
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As Ian said just say 'if you trust me, why would you read them' and also say that if you had something to hide you could easily open another email account she wouldn't know about, although that could make things worse ;-P


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 10:14 am
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I assume your wife is happy for you to read her private messges?


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 10:14 am
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They soon get bored, mine used to, but the contents of my inbox used to send her to sleep.

Does it work the other way, can you read her emails?


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 10:16 am
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Just Start checking on her emails and texts, then just make random reference to snippets of private conversations she's had with her friends.

See how that goes down?

A girl I know was telling us how a friend of hers had a bit of extra-marital hows-yer-father a few years back, and now her husband has a tracker on her iphone and checks her location about every half hour through the day, and constantly phones her to see where she is, so that the two tally up 😯

The issue here is trust. If its reached that point, then really... whats the point? Just call it a day move on. As its clearly benefiting no-one


 
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Trust is a two way thing. It can't be one sided; i.e. she must trust you that you're faithful, rather than have to resort to reading emails/text/facebook.

That said, mine does it occasionally and it does get right up my nose more because it's bloody rude.

That, and if I were so inclined, as IanMunro says, I couldn't do anything as a surprise.


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 10:17 am
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yes you should care.

she's using your past misbehaving as an excuse to misbehave herself.

being your wife doesn't give her any rights on you.

if she can't trust you then there are problems in your relashionship which haven't been sorted.

in my opinion she gives herself the right to do something which is completely unacceptable.

I'd never do that to my husband even if I know his password.


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 10:19 am
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My email account is open [auto password thing], no idea if she specifically goes in and reads them but it hardly registers on my 'give a shitometer'


 
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"If you've got nothing to hide then why do you care if I read your emails?"

becuase it:

1. is rude
2. demonstrates a lack of trust
3. isn't healthy


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 10:20 am
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Change your Email address to upformuckyfunanytimeanyplace@gmail.com


 
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MTFU. Is she your partner or owner? You are entitled to you own space and a degree of privacy. Don't buy the "if you've nothing to hide" horseshit. Does she open all your post too?


 
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So, if I have nothing to hide (which is the case), should I care if she reads my emails?

Yes. Her actions display a lack of trust, for me that would be a major issue in a relationship.


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 10:23 am
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Curious if she is happy for you to read her emails, if so then it probably wouldn't bother me much (OK it's a bit of a lack of trust but there's an element of truth in the having nothing to hide thing). If she doesn't want you to read her emails then I'd tell her where to go...


 
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problem is that having accepted it for so long any change in 'policy' on your part is likely to cause a further breakdown of trust?

I'd just sign yourself up for as much spam as possible and hope she gets sick wading through it.


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 10:26 am
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You made the comment

Fallout from that was dealt with and I knocked it on the head before anything started.

Her behavior would indicate that, from her point of view, its far from having been 'dealt with'. You need to sit down and talk it through properly. Not only for your benefit, but if she's constantly on edge about what you might possibly be up too, then that's hardly healthy for her either


 
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Yes "rude" is kind of how I feel about it. Thing is, she's done it for years, since well before any kind of shenanigans on my side (not that anything physical happened, but I was a naughty boy via email). She is very insecure in general, but if I'm honest it's probably indicative of the gradual unravelling of our relationship.

She has a passcode set up on her iphone 🙄


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 10:26 am
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OP. Will your wife be looking at this thread?


 
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Just mail a mate with the title "I'm sick of my wife - she's always reading my emails. I think I might get a divorce"

See what reaction that provokes.

As above lack of trust and paranoia aren't healthy. Nor is denying someone the right to any sort of independent discourse - she's effectively vetting everything you commit to writing.


 
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Dam it, no email in profile!!!

Grrrrrrrr


 
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Dam it, no email in profile!!!

Grrrrrrrr

🙂


 
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Well, I shouldn’t really pass judgement, but this is STW, so...

Seriously, wtf? Even if she allows you the same level of access to her emails and private messages, it’s not really a sign of a healthy relationship. Technically I wouldn’t mind Mr Toast reading my emails – I have nothing to hide, and given that 90% of my emails are marketing spam from online bike stores he’s probably already seen the content – but I’d be upset if he felt the need. The fact you were 'nearly' naughty sounds like more of a symptom rather than a cause of your problems.

Generally people who do feel compelled to see every aspect of their other halves' lives tend to be controlling and a bit unhinged (like Justin Lee Collins).


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 10:32 am
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Just mail a mate with the title "I'm sick of my wife - she's always readig my emails. I think I might get a divorce"

I like that idea 😀

Dam it, no email in profile!!!

Grrrrrrrr

OP. Will your wife be looking at this thread?

I hadn't considered the STW stalking possibility 😯 . Username changed to protect the innocent etc, but it wouldn't be rocket science to work it out on her side!


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 10:33 am
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greedo's wife, earlier;

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Posted : 31/10/2012 10:34 am
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OP. Will your wife be looking at this thread?

Yes. I am.


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 10:35 am
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i used to get this off my ex wife, she constantly (by constantly, i mean 3 times a week minimum) accused me of flirting/eyeing up/****ing every female we/i knew within the age range 14-60.
somewhat ironic that when we eventually seperated it was because SHE had an affair.
i thought it was just me, but talking recently to a guy i work with he told me a scarily similar story.
just for the record, ive never cheated on any of my partners.


 
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A serious question for you: Surely you must end up self censoring?

Writing something completely innocent, then worrying how it might be misconstrued if/when she read it?


 
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Just pick up her phone, and ask for the passcode, mentioning that you don't think that there should be any secrets between the 2 of you and see what happens.


 
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I went out with a girl who said the same thing, "if you've done nothing wrong....", except I'd done nothing that would warrant any suspicion in the first place. She also used to throw a strop when I saw my mates without her, when I said she made me feel bad for seeing my friends she said "If you've done nothing wrong then you won't feel guilty, so you must be doing something wrong".

I should have made the most of being treated like a cheat/b%$tard because when it was the other way round and I thought (correctly) she was messing around I was told "why would you need to look at my texts, don't you trust me?" 😕

Looking back....that was not a healthy relationship! 😆

Edit: Sounbds a bit like martymat's post above. Maybe because she's doing it she assumes you are too?


 
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A serious question for you: Surely you must end up self censoring?

Writing something completely innocent, then worrying how it might be misconstrued if/when she read it?

yes there's a bit of that, though most of my emails are about bikes & bike rides so it must be very dull for her 🙄 . There is a wider trust issue going on I think. Every time I go for a ride she asks who it's with. erm, the same group as last Thursday. Every Thursday in fact. "Any girls?" wft?!

You know, actually typing this out is making me realise how dysfunctional the whole situation really is!!!


 
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She has a passcode set up on her iphone

Uuuuhhh huuhhhh.

Why isn’t she OK with giving you full access to her messages and emails if she has nothing to hide?


 
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Greedo, is she 15??
Sounds like pretty childish behaviour. I'd fire her - unless you can't do better.


 
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Sounds like pretty childish behaviour. I'd fire her - unless you can't do better.

Married + kids, innit. I also have a history of taking the path of least resistance, which in this case is putting up with it rather than turn it into a huge "thing".


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 10:51 am
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She doesn't trust you at all, that is the problem. The email thing is just a symptom of that problem.

Sort out the trust thing and the email thing should go away.


 
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Whats she up to when you are out riding, thats what i'd like to know??? 😉
Seriously tho, ask Why she has a lock on her phone IF she has nothing to hide.


 
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Whats she up to when you are out riding, thats what i'd like to know???

Well my ex wife was visiting another man.


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 10:59 am
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rather than turn it into a huge "thing".

Not talking about it and not dealing with it doesn't necessarily mean it's not a huge "thing"

She's spying on you for flips sake.

Sympathies though, it sounds like a very difficult situation to be in. Especially with kids.

No way I'd stand for it though.


 
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You know, actually typing this out is making me realise how dysfunctional the whole situation really is!!!

Off to relate with the pair of you. Seriously.


 
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Yeah, you guys need counselling, that ain't healthy.


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 11:08 am
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[i]She's spying on you for flips sake.[/i]

isn't spying supposed to be covert?

tbh, if he knows she's lookign then I can't see what she's expecting to find that he hasn't already deemed ok to be seen?

having said that if she was already looking (and he knew) before the email flirting incident then he's more than a little daft or wanted to get caught.


 
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Does she know what your thoughts are on this [b]clearly[/b], or have you backed down everytime she mentions your past behaviour?
Just talk to her about it in a calm manner. Explain how it makes you feel - her behaviour is clearly pushing you away from her. Don't let it turn into an argument or petty point scoring.
It might just be a habit of hers.


 
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