-7.5 for both measures so hard lefty as well. Although I think we need proper applications for the big jobs (I reckon I'd have a go at foreign secretary)
Hannah for president!
Not one person who voted conservative popped up to actually answer the question posed.
Well after 13 years of Tory governments the dynamics of the political threads on stw will presumably change significantly following the general election - which will very likely occur in about 6 months time.
Some people's contributions to the political threads never go beyond expressing their loathing for the current Tory government.
I am intrigued to know what their focus will be once we no longer have a Tory government.
Some people’s contributions to the political threads never go beyond expressing their loathing for the current Tory government.
Do you even irony dude? Others focus mainly on the shortcomings of the opposition and why not to vote for them.
^^a ffs does postimages not work on here anymore? Whatever, I score -6.5 on left economy: -7.95 on libertarian left which, flawed test as it is, seems about right - right down in that bottom corner.
P.s. this apparently makes me a blairite centrist on the political threads
Damn those moderates, going round being er moderate...
I am intrigued to know what their focus will be once we no longer have a Tory government.
Just some basic adulting would be good. Politics that are not driven by the comments section of the Daily Mail, some policies that help rather than demonise the poorest parts of society and some basic infrastructure rebuilding and modernisation.
It'd be nice if green policies took centre stage and an understanding that without environmental protections there's **** all point in "growth" or "the economy" cos it'll all be on fire or underwater within a decade.
That's all. Just some common sense and evidence based policies rather than a feathering of their own nests.
Others focus mainly on the shortcomings of the opposition and why not to vote for them.
So? Perhaps they are not impressed with the opposition. Are you suggesting that is a problem and such opinions should not be expressed?
I am suggesting that the lack of opinions from a Tory perspective is a problem, imo. I personally would welcome more politically diverse discussions on stw, as was once the case.
Do you even irony dude?
What does that mean?
the idea that punters who support and vote Tory find the political threads too hostile is far more believable
I have to agree, but I don't really see why they should - IF they believe that there is a valid justification for tory policy and practice. Although there's a number of gobby ****ers on here and pile-ons are fairly prevalent, presumably that could be addressed by cogent argument, preferably from several right-leaners.
However, if they are tory just because they want to stay personally "rich" then I can see the need to keep a low profile
This surprised me. I expected to be somewhere in the bottom left quadrant. but nowhere near so far to the left! I've taken it before and been more in the middle of the box or closer to the centre. Not sure if the questions have changed or I've become a bit more radical in my old age! I've mentioned on here before, I was a proper little Tory boy in my teens and twenties, due to upbringing, peers and parental influence. Joining the army as a teenager and staying in for a couple of decades didn't do much to help foster a progressive world view either!
As time has passed I have slowly drifted leftwards, the opposite direction to what conventional wisdom says. Though not by as much as the compass shows, or so I thought. Quite a few of my friends have followed the same path including surprisingly, a fair few* former army mates. Which just goes to show conventional wisdom is sometimes bollocks!
*Though to be fair, a good few more are somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun on the spectrum. We just get pissed, reminisce and avoid politics whenever we meet up.
If STW was a Political party, where would we be?
Left to centre left.
( I have not taken the test so not sure but I want to be a dictator with power, loads of power, absolute power! LOL!)
I expected to be somewhere in the bottom left quadrant. but nowhere near so far to the left!
Almost off the graph!
You are Jeremy Corbyn and claim my right to expell you from the Labour Party.
Not sure if the questions have changed ....
This ^^ I reckon.
I didn't bother doing it as I have always believed that it is deeply flawed.
This ^^ I reckon.
I think so. It just doesn't feel accurate. -3 or -4 on both axis would feel about right. Don't expel me just yet comrade!
I have always believed that it is deeply flawed.
In what way?
I'd say where you are on the graph is much less useful than where you are on the graph in comparison to a political party or another person. What your number (or anyone else's) is is largely irrelevant. It's quite a good tool to put under the nose of the passive voter - the kind who vote tory because their family always have.
A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system.
I struggled with this question. Factually, it would undoubtedly be easier for a one party state to implement their policies, so I selected "strongly agree" though I in no way actually approve of a one party state (unless I personally was the benevolent dictator, of course)
I've always thought of myself as more authoritarian as I got older though as (a) some people are so wilfully ignorant or stupid, the state needs to put some barriers in place to contain their own stupidity or (b) some people are born grifters and barriers need to be in place to protect other people. So I'm surprised I'm only "mildly authoritarian" 🤷
Oh gosh, another Libertarian Left result. I am finding the consistency of these results to be a bit suspicious, and am wondering whether the questions are all that good for teasing out where everyone actually lies, or if there's some intention to make folks generally think they're more left wing than they realise. The questions that feel like they'd move you towards the Authoritarian and Right quadrants seem to be so full-on culture war and/or corporatist it feels like few people would align themselves strongly towards them.
Edit: I'd probably categorise myself as a wishy-washy lefty, and not pushing towards the radical like my score here would somewhat suggest.
OK. I've wasted the last couple of hours on 3 posts explaining my political journey and deleted them. The biggest takeaway was the 1970s and the politics of envy. Absolute carnage and destruction by unions under a Labour government. I remember all that. I blamed Labour and that was ingrained. The next 25yrs I honestly didn't engage, I was too busy making a life for my family. My pals didn't engage much either, work was challenging and leisure was just that. Mid 2000s, well that went well. Struggled out of that and probably still stuck with old allegiances. 2010 onwards? LibDem, Greens, back to Conservative, mainly because of our local guy. I have never found it in me to vote Labour, and still see nothing that deserves my vote. Boris onwards? Never, ever again. I'm in a kind of wasteland politically now, and that's a bloody shame, because this is my country.
Make of that what you will.
For context I've had couple of beers and I'm watching Once Upon a Time in Iraq.
I may need to lighten up a tad.
I struggled with this question. Factually, it would undoubtedly be easier for a one party state to implement their policies
There were several problematic questions along those lines eg "A genuine free market requires restrictions on the ability of predator multinationals to create monopolies."
A "genuine" free market cant have any restrictions by definition. Once you add those its an impure semi free market so how can it be answered.
Or
"The businessperson and the manufacturer are more important than the writer and the artist."
How is that being used and how does it handle the issue that they can be one and the same.
