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BTW, notwisthstanding the politics of the matter, the fact that the mainstream media havent been reporting on the speech when there has been a wide interest on the internet is probably just as an important issue.
"daniel hannan" is ranked 79th in today's US google hottrends list.
http://www.google.com/trends/hottrends
out of interest do you think having a greater proportion of "reporting" undertaken by the marginal media online is a benefit to the objectives of the Fourth Estate to keep our leaders in check, or will it just lead to greater volumes of flimsy editorialising rather than wider coverage of news?
Wow, sticking me in there with TJ, gg and the likes? I'm honoured, thanks. So, I was baited onto watching it. FFS, yawn. He said nothing that the liberals haven't been saying for the last eighteen months, only that he chose the stage of the European parliament to air a fairly personal attack on his prime-minister. How embarassing! I'm trying to think of something comparable and that oft used sketch show angle of a married couple airing their differences in front of cringing guests at a dinner party comes to mind. We're generally a bit of a laughing stock in Europe as it is, largely because our electorate can't be bothered sending any decent MEPs through lack of interest. Seems it's the right wing, largely having lost the faith and respect of the electorate, that are motivated to put the likes of Hannan into Brussels.
Daniel Hannan, educated at Marlborough and Oriel, so yes folks, we've all got lots in common with this Tory boy. Remember that while you're slapping the smarmy git on the back. I'm not sure whether I'm happier for him to embarrass us on the European stage or launching his attacks across the floor of the commons. Frankly, he's not fit to polish Dennis Skinner's shoes after that display.
Fine public speaker though. I believe he was quite the Oxford Union chap...that fine bastion of relevance.
Pah...doodle away Gordon, show him the lack of respect he deserves.
mainstream media havent been reporting on the speech when there has been a wide interest on the internet is probably just as an important issue.
"daniel hannan" is ranked 79th in today's US google hottrends list.
Tell me you're joking - you really expect news broadcasters to report on a video because it's number 79 on the "US google hottrends" (whatever that is) ?
And since when have MEPs speeches made the news headlines ? In fact, how many people give a toss about MEPs ?
Furthermore, with the contempt which presumably Daniel Hannan feels for the European Parliament, I think it's rather fitting that not much importance has been attached by the "mainstream media" to the rantings of an obscure member of the European Parliament.
Agree gg. I do get riled by these right wing cabals in Brussels. On a platform of supposedly parliamentary reform, all they do is subvert the process continually. Wasn't Hannan the guy who caused some change in the rules because of filibustering during debates on the Lisbon treaty? What a tosser
Tell me you're joking - you really expect news broadcasters to report on a video because it's number 79 on the "US google hottrends" (whatever that is) ?
not at all.
News is what the people consider to be newsworthy, not what they get told is.
Hannan's video has been watched 260,000 times today all over the world. Not because it shows gordon picking his nose, but because of the lucid assault on Gordon's legacy and personality. Whether or not Hannan's attack has merit or not is immaterial, it represents an oppositional attack on the government, it should be reported, it hasnt been reported, but it is being watched regardless.
You're getting hung up on the content Gus. That's not really the reason I posted, its the frankness of the piece and the way in which it has been championed so widely in such a short space of time regardless of the mainstream media's lack of coverage which makes it interesting.
Hannan is also Glorifying himself too.
He is known for being outspoken but convinces nobody.
Daniel Hannan, educated at Marlborough and Oriel, so yes folks, we've all got lots in common with this Tory boy.
Almost as much as we have in common with somebody educated at Fettes and St John's, or even those with a PhD from Edinburgh!
I wasn't necessarily comparing him with anybody else but if you feel the need to, fire away. Though I assume you refer to GB? If so, then yes, I have a hell of a lot more in common with him than the smarmy tosser who is the subject of this thread.
Or indeed someone who went to Tupton Grammar School, and Sheffield University followed by Ruskin College at Oxford (not part of the Uni).
aka Dennis Skinner 🙂
Hannan's video has been watched 260,000 times today all over the world........... because of the lucid assault on Gordon's legacy and personality.
Who says so ?
I've watched it.
Not because "of the lucid assault on Gordon's legacy and personality", but because some punter on a forum posted it and told me to watch it.
And I'm sure that I don't need to tell you that I think Hannan is an inconsequential plonker who's talking shite.
Yes his video appears to have had a lot of hits. Presumably that's because spotty faced tory-boys up and down the country have been posting links to it on the various forums/blogs whatever, which they frequent.
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no offence like 🙄
You ad-hommed him on the basis of his education though - simply pointing out that wasn't necessarily a clever argument (though I suppose I should let off those without the benefit of an Oxbridge education on that score 🙄 )I wasn't necessarily comparing him with anybody else but if you feel the need to, fire away.
Curious on what basis you're asserting that? Have you got a PhD from Edinburgh, or are you the PM of an almost bankrupt country?I have a hell of a lot more in common with him than the smarmy tosser who is the subject of this thread.
p.s. Not all my references were about the same person.
p.p.s. How's the mapping, Stoner?
spotty faced tory-boys
and we've even met. that is low. I have a lovely complexion and I dont vote tory... 🙁
Not because "of the lucid assault on Gordon's legacy and personality", but because some punter on a forum posted it and told me to watch it
Im flattered I have had such a dramatic effect on your evening's entertainment Gus 🙂
I have no problem with your view on his plonkerishness.
But I bet you a pint of OJ & Lemonade that it will make the news tomorrow, and regardless of his politics, the speech will be held up as a fine example of polemicism.
aracer - completely forgot to unwrap my present.
will go and have a play.
well it crashed vista, so Im off to bed 🙂
I'll have another go tomorrow.
Gus - we shall resume pleasantries tomorrow....
Simply pointing out that the horse has bolted is a rather different thing from actually running the stable.
Plenty were actually pointing out the stable door didn't seem to be secured properly at the time. Maybe if they'd been in charge we wouldn't be in quite the same s**t we are now?
well it crashed vista
That's what it was developed under (though with a non-Vista compliant compiler) 😕
I agree with aracer. I also couldnt quite believe the arrogance of Brown to sit there laughing, doodling on a pad while thousands at home are losing their jobs on a daily basis. After putting us in almost a trillion pounds of debt.
I have copy pasted the link into an email and passed it on, I urge you all to do the same. Methinks this farce has gone on long enough.
I agree with aracer.
Which bit? 😯 I try my hardest not to express too much in the way of opinions on these threads nowadays.
I have a lovely complexion and I dont vote tory
Not you mate. 'Tory-boy' is not a label which I would attach to you. But I'm sure however, that there are plenty of spotty faced tory-boys up and down the country wetting their pants, frothing at the mouth, and squealing in delight, at the sight of a video of Gordon Brown being denounced publicly in the European Parliament by a British MEP.
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But I bet you a pint of OJ & Lemonade that it will make the news tomorrow
Well then out of the window will go your argument that it's been ignored by mainstream media. What will your complaint then be ?
aracer, no need for patronisation. I'm happy enough with my level of education, and it's none of your business either. On principle, I was referring to Brown's political principals, not his educational background. Didn't realize I needed to be more succinct. I'll try harder in future.
I try my hardest, and irony still doesn't come across in the written form 🙄aracer, no need for patronisation. I'm happy enough with my level of education
Well maybe when your original reason for having something in common or not with somebody is to do with their education, you should point out when you've changed tack to ignore the point. I suppose "Daniel Hannan, has different political principles to me, so yes folks, we've all got lots in common with this Tory boy" might not have had quite the impact you were after.Didn't realize I needed to be more succinct. I'll try harder in future
Thanks for your input.
Well, the merry go-round continues.
[url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/7964803.stm ]party switch for council leader[/url]
So we have one right-wing politician attacking another in the EU parliament and now one leaving one right-wing party for another. Politicians, don't you just love them?
(yes Stoner this story did appear on the BBC news website, so it'll probably confirm in your mind that the BBC are run by left-wing trotskyites :roll:)
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That is news.
Still nothing on Guardian, BBC, BBC Blogs, or Sky.
An article on the Telegraph, natch, he does blog for them.
Well then out of the window will go your argument that it's been ignored by mainstream media. What will your complaint then be ?
My argument was that it wasnt picked up at the time of Gordons turgid speech. For it to become a story through becoming an internet viral phenomenon though will just make the mainstream media look like idiots anyway.
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errr.
Not seen this on the news today.
Though there was a cat stuck up a tree.
He does a good speech. It's just a shame that no one gives a fig about MEPs apart from their accountants and bank managers.
Which is strange given that our national government has so little say in so many areas of our law.
I am sorry, this is a very good thread in many ways, but I'm still laughing at this: [i]I'd just pretend that [Caroline Flint] was one of the Corrs. [/i]
Always the serious issues with you isnt it BD? 🙂
My favourite quote of late is from SFB on one of your threads:
"How the hell can you tell when a chicken is coming?"
I also couldnt quite believe the arrogance of Brown to sit there laughing, doodling on a pad
What should he have done?
striptease.
Dance
rattatata, rattatat, yeah!
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What should he have done?
Not provided the ammo in the first place?
He did the right thing. He treated it with the contempt it deserved.
Not provided the ammo in the first place?
Not possible, as I've been saying on all these political threads. People find ammo from anything you do, all you can do is get on with the job as best you can and ignore it.
But anyway, that's not an answer. Brown can't go back in time and change his decisions based on some one-sided schoolboy slagging match. What should he have done at the time instead of sit there and ride it out? What would you have done?
willard - MemberHe does a good speech. It's just a shame that no one gives a fig about MEPs apart from their accountants and bank managers.
Well you should because 70% of new laws in this country are determined by MEP's in Brussels! The House of Commons has become little more than a quaint little entertainment show.
I dont think anyone was expecting him to break-down in a fit of [i]mea culpa[/i], tears and anguish. 🙂
Possibly an expression of sincerity might have helped though... 🙂
What should he have done?
Sitting with a serious expression shaking his head from time to time might have been a good start instead of the sixth form antics.
not sure I get it right as my level of english wasn't very good but:
A complete unknown from the UK political scene, choose to have a complete non constructive personal attack towards his prime minister in the EU hall.
Did I get it right?
If so sounds pretty much like a knob head to me.
And UK isn't much worst than France or Spain if you ask me.
juan - on one hand you are perfectly right: inconsequential, right wing "*****" has pop at PM on European stage.
On the other hand, and I apologise if it sounds rude, unintended, you probably dont quite pick up on his clarity and style without obfuscation or waffle that marks it out as exceptional. In fact that is why its has been picked up and sited over in the States (by the right wing of course) as an example of the polemic that should be used against Obama.
* your **** might be a right winger's champion, as much as Dennis Skinner might be a right-winger's "****". Politics, the last bastion of childish name-calling.
If Hannan's the new right wing hero, that'll suit me fine. Bring him on.
TBH darcy, I bet Camerons lot will be just as annoyed with him as No. 10.
I wonder what the form the briefing against him will take. He's bound to have some skeletons for them to have a go at.
looks like Andrew Neil is going to be covering it on the daily politics show this lunchtime. Lead comment was "internet phenomenon" NOT political opposition. As I said above, the story now will be the media's failure to pick it up timely, not necessarily the content.
And UK isn't much worst than France or Spain if you ask me.
The exchange rates would suggest otherwise 🙁