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I saw this on the Grauniad

https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2017/apr/21/apocalypse-how-a-survival-guide-to-the-end-of-the-world-video

Basically meeting people who have prepared in some way for survival after a global catastrophy. I have one friend in the UK who is ready, but then he is into Heavy metal and The Walking Dead so that kind of explains it.

We have enough food and water for three days if we get snowed in, plus we've got three axes.

As most of us here on singletrack have woodburners we'd be fine for heat for a bit.

What is your plan?


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 9:06 am
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Embrace the lightning. I'd rather die than live in a world full of heavy metal fans.


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 9:08 am
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Eat the slow people who don't have axes or woodburners


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 9:12 am
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Delusional.


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 9:12 am
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Steal everything from the heavy metal fans 😈


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 9:12 am
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Eat the heavy metal fans


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 9:13 am
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they'd taste a bit 'inky' wouldn't they. And not in a posh squid ink risotto sort of way... more like when you're sucking the end of a cheap biro

- and if it's the end of the world, surely the point is that there won't be survivors?

(I'd round up all the pedants and eat them first)


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 9:15 am
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Embrace the lightning. I'd rather die than live in a world full of heavy metal fans.

But embracing the lightning would be so metal, dude


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 9:16 am
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Presumably the only way you'd survive the end of the world is to have access to a spaceship?


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 9:17 am
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But embracing the lightning would be so metal, dude

Ride the Lightning, Shirley....?

Standards are slipping..... 😆


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 9:19 am
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"get on yer bike and ride" oooh yeahhhh, those fat bottomed girls. yeah ride it cowboy.


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 9:23 am
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Would you prepare your Heavy metal risotto at home or would you flee to the mountains/ countryside (presuming you can get a parking spot at Swinley) and Ride the Lightning there?

These are all potentially life and death decisions


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 9:25 am
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There's some types of apocalypse I could survive better than most. Til I run out of insulin, then I'll die.


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 9:26 am
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I'd swing by my garage, pick up the truck and supply bags, then head to deepest darkest Wales where I have a cabin waiting(near a trail centre).
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Posted : 21/04/2017 9:32 am
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There's some types of apocalypse I could survive better than most. Til I run out of insulin, then I'll die.

You'll be fine, provided you have a steady supply of pancreases:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eva_Saxl


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 9:34 am
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Erm..

The clue is in the title.

You'll be dead.


 
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I love how the doctor with a steady supply of pancreases has a camo tshirt on. He is ready

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Posted : 21/04/2017 9:36 am
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I have a log cabin in the Mountains - fresh water from a well and plenty of trees for firewood and all the rivers and lakes are full of trout and salmon


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 9:40 am
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I have a log cabin in the Mountains - fresh water from a well and plenty of trees for firewood and all the rivers and lakes are full of trout and salmon

sounds idyllic.

Until the Metal fans move in next door.......


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 9:44 am
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I have a log cabin in the Mountains - fresh water from a well and plenty of trees for firewood and all the rivers and lakes are full of trout and salmon

If you read any post-apocalypse fiction, first thing they do is poison the wells....


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 9:47 am
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Have you ever looked at a prepper's website? Weird, really weird, and scare. So much so I'd sooner take my chances with the flesh eating zombies.


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 9:50 am
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Well I have good outdoor equipment and I can turn animals into meat so I guess I am better equipped than most. I'd go hide in the highlands.

How many folk on here have turned an animal into food ? - from live animal to dinner.


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 9:58 am
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I've choked a chicken. IGMC

no I've killed chickens and plucked them. Not rocket science though is it? kill said animal, cut up said animal. eat?? perhaps I wouldn't be efficient at it but I'd be OK? Wouldn't I?

perhaps I need a skills course! 😀


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 10:00 am
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I actually had a very vivid and detailed dream about this! Like Northwind, I'd struggle without a steady supply of insulin. I actually dreamed that there'd been an apocalypse, and that I, very tediously had to come into work (I'm a research technician in a genetics lab), and produce my own insulin.

Seriously, I actually dreamt about doing PCR's without a PCR machines.

🙁

.....Tank Girl wasn't even there to help me. 🙁


 
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Have you ever looked at a prepper's website? Weird, really weird, and scare.

yes, in an internet stumble i went from off-road pick ups to preppers.

Some people have shelters, stocked up of course, built in the woods - not on their own land but just in well hidden areas. which they would retreat to when the nuclear winter comes.

Very odd.


 
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I love how the doctor with a steady supply of pancreases has a camo tshirt on. He is ready

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How's a bookshelf going to help?


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 10:04 am
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How many folk on here have turned an animal into food ? - from live animal to dinner.

It's not the most difficult process to follow.

I read this as a kid so I'm sorted.

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Posted : 21/04/2017 10:05 am
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Well, if the dead come back to life as zombies, one of them will be Lofty Wiseman, so I'd ask him what to do.


 
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As for survival - it really depends on how the world ends - because no amount of tinned fruit is going to help if an asteroid hits earth, and bottled water is of limited use again ICBMs.

Downfall of society? Nah, Society is bigger and better than Westminster - check this Chap out.

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He's stood there because it's the (slightly daft) right thing to do - people like that will still do that sort of stuff even if the government falls.

Society doesn't need leaders, not for the basics anyway, when it all goes wrong you need your friends and neighbours and they need you. This post-apocalyptic idea that the moment the lights go off we all start eating each other is fiction.


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 10:12 am
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plus we've got three axes.

You'll fit right in with the heavy metal mob then.


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 10:15 am
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Make friends with the neighbours. All the loners like Mr Heavy Metal will just have their carefully prepared stuff taken away from them by people who have banded together about an hour after they've realised the shit has properly hit the fan. We will then make our way to the Highlands and make TJ cook us nice kebabs.


 
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Its interesting we all take our safe society for granted. There are apparently lots of signs it could eventually collapse (probably not in our lifetimes but maybe in 100 years).

Have a read of this
[url= http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20170418-how-western-civilisation-could-collapse ]BBC article[/url]


 
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How many folk on here have turned an animal into food ? - from live animal to dinner.

if fishing counts then yes - see my previous post

also plenty of reindeer, Elk and rabbits around


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 10:51 am
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I've caught fish and eaten them.

I also keep chickens and although I don't do it regularly I've necked one before and curried it.

Plucking it was the hardest part!


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 10:55 am
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interesting BBC article, cheers. You can have an axe when it begins.

" another sign that we’re entering into a danger zone (collapse) , Homer-Dixon says, is the increasing occurrence of what experts call nonlinearities, or sudden, unexpected changes in the world’s order, such as the 2008 economic crisis, the rise of ISIS, [b]Brexit,[/b] or Donald Trump’s election."


 
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Luck.

IF something bad happens then it really depends on where you are in the first instance - on that basis as we live on a small island you are probably done for. The ability to move out of harms way is probably key.

You need to plan for what form the end takes. Thermonuclear war, zombie apocalypse, climate change, asteroid, breakdown of society all a need different plans.


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 11:16 am
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I have Ray Mears on speed dial 🙂


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 11:26 am
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I've recently given this a little bit of thought - having moved into a Proper House I now have room for supply storage. Read a couple of books that my ever-helpful mother-in-law (really) picked up for me from the charity shop.

In the end I decided I would 'prepare' for a minor stumble of civilisation e.g. something that led to a few weeks of fuel/power/food shortages. But the actual collapse? Really couldn't see the point of investing that much time, money and effort to the point of actually being able to ride out a situation that civilisation isn't coming back from.

The sheer quantity of food required - mostly in the form of long-lasting dull filler - to last the recommended year 'self-sufficient' before you can hope to be growing your own is nuts, plus because you have to rotate your stores and eat the old stuff before it expires means you're locking yourself in to eating rice and beans for the rest of your life. And you aren't going to be able to learn and prepare growing your own post-apocalypse so you have to start now. Plus you have to work out how you're going to defend it from everyone else who will want it. It just puts you in a horrible mental state - paranoid, defensive, cynical - and you can tell quite a few intensive preppers actually *want* disaster to strike to validate their lifestyles.

More fundamentally, what would be the point? To live on in a desperate hunter-gatherer/subsistence-farming lifestyle just to continue existing? A real global disaster would be utterly miserable - hiding in your cabin in the woods hoping the bandits don't find you, no idea what's going on, wondering whether that cloud on the horizon is radioactive, if the cut you just gave yourself trying to butcher someone's feral pet is going to turn septic and kill you because there's no antibiotics any more? No thanks...


 
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Unless deliveroo is still working, think I'd be a goner.


 
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More fundamentally, what would be the point? To live on in a desperate hunter-gatherer/subsistence-farming lifestyle just to continue existing? A real global disaster would be utterly miserable - hiding in your cabin in the woods hoping the bandits don't find you, no idea what's going on, wondering whether that cloud on the horizon is radioactive, if the cut you just gave yourself trying to butcher someone's feral pet is going to turn septic and kill you because there's no antibiotics any more? No thanks...

The will to survive is probably pretty crucial.... you are toast 😆


 
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Would it be best to eat the fat people first or the skinny lean ones.. Just wondering how how cake to eat today?


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 12:02 pm
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locking yourself in to eating rice and beans for the rest of your life.

Now we know what the vegans are plotting.


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 12:18 pm
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Would it be best to eat the fat people first or the skinny lean ones

Skinny first. If you ate the fatties first it'll take longer and the skinnies will have starved to death. Useful for soup i guess. Having a reserve of fat would give a longer 'best before' date i'd have thought


 
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The zombie apocalypse has already happened.

i know this'll get me written off as another chewk-bot, but look around you, zombies, zombies everywhere!


 
Posted : 21/04/2017 12:31 pm
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I can't cope with a power cut never mind end of civilization. 😯
I do have a copy of lofty Wisemans SAS survival guide though, so when the end of the world comes you will find me sitting quietly in a corner reading.


 
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