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None. I've also grassed up a neighbour that drove home drunk, unfortunately the police said there was nothing to be done as he had managed to make it home and out of the car, I've no idea if this is a real loophole or just lazy police!

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Or perhaps even the Police don't like a grass.


 
Posted : 21/04/2014 10:57 pm
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Funny old world these days, pride in being a grass...

You do realize that the purpose of the drink driving laws is to prevent people from killing other people or themselves...


 
Posted : 21/04/2014 10:59 pm
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Best we all understand the purpose of derekfish's post before we get too sanctimonious.


 
Posted : 21/04/2014 11:01 pm
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Zero


 
Posted : 21/04/2014 11:03 pm
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Five and drive!!


 
Posted : 21/04/2014 11:05 pm
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Never drunk more than a pint.
However, in the past I fear that I have been over the limit the morning after while drinking with a hangover.
Have used a breathalyser in the car a couple of times the morning after to make sure that I wasn't over the limit.


 
Posted : 21/04/2014 11:08 pm
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Six pints is a lot of booze!


 
Posted : 21/04/2014 11:41 pm
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None.
I'm a police officer and have picked off three drink-drivers this week. As a beat bobby I get zero recognition for a drink drive.
It isn't a recordable crime so doesn't show on the stats. Nicking and prosecuting them is a thankless task as far as government is concerned; but i have never met a police officer who isn't happy with banning a drink-driver.

PSA- I get a great hit-rate by hanging round country pubs and pulling every car with a light out or who is tailgating.


 
Posted : 21/04/2014 11:51 pm
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Pretty sure I've driven whilst over the limit a couple of times but I do feel pretty terrible about it and I no longer take my car keys if theres any chance I'll get pissed enough to think its a good idea. I might have one pint with a meal but I'd rather just not bother now, not worth the risk.


 
Posted : 22/04/2014 12:02 am
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PSA- I get a great hit-rate by hanging round country pubs and pulling every car with a light out or who is tailgating.

You would be stopping half of the cars round here if you were going for everyone with a light out. I've never seen so many.
I saw six driving home from work tonight (2.5 miles)


 
Posted : 22/04/2014 12:04 am
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You would be stopping half of the cars round here

Where is that?


 
Posted : 22/04/2014 12:08 am
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This is interesting. What about other substances, prescriptions, or otherwise? And, dare I ask, if you're riding, do the same rules apply?

I have nasty scar from catching my arm on a slate hedge* while pissed.

* What sort of unt makes a horizont=l slate Cornish hedge?!


 
Posted : 22/04/2014 12:22 am
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Where is that?

Morley. It's crazy how many I've seen recently.


 
Posted : 22/04/2014 12:24 am
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Interesting fact about Morley: The town is built on seven hills, like Rome: Scatcherd Hill, Dawson Hill, Daisy Hill, Chapel Hill, Hunger Hill, Troy Hill and Banks Hill.


 
Posted : 22/04/2014 12:39 am
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National sport in NZ. I've seen people driving after 6 beers ๐Ÿ™„ And they seem to think this is normal.
I noticed i was crepping towards happily having 2 then driving. I now have nothing.


 
Posted : 22/04/2014 1:04 am
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Same here in Oz, people get to know where the Random Breath Tests are and social media helps to inform them of an evening (it's also normally under the bridge when it's raining)

It's much worse than the UK where most would be caught or stopped by friends. The social stigma is much higher in the UK, though when I read the fast car threads it reminds me that some people are just driving gods with much higher abilities than others - that mentality translates to drink driving too.


 
Posted : 22/04/2014 1:08 am
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zero


 
Posted : 22/04/2014 2:23 am
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1 bottle of beer (330ml). Absolutely no more.

I used to live in a condo with parking underneath. I went to turn my car around in its space so someone could use my battery for a jump start. I'd had maybe 9 bottles (4 pints?) over a couple of hours and shocked myself with how my abilities had, well, disappeared!

A few years ago, I remember riding home at 4am. I ended up calling my sensible younger brother as I'd lost my bike and glasses in the hedge when I'd ridden into it.


 
Posted : 22/04/2014 3:14 am
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"drunk in charge of a bicycle" is an offence I think?

Although I'm sure a few beverages would actually improve my riding


 
Posted : 22/04/2014 4:37 am
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Last time I crashed the car, I'd had about 8 cans and a bottle of wine. Plus a handful of e's and some speed.

The coppers didn't even breathalyse me as there was diesel on the road which was clear to see. It helps that I know the local polis though, small town and all that.


 
Posted : 22/04/2014 5:47 am
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Last time I crashed the car

That sentence started with such promise, and delivered!


 
Posted : 22/04/2014 6:11 am
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Yep it does...

It helps that I know the local polis though, small town and all that.

ending with this is great, shame it only helps you and not the other poor people who have to share the roads with you.


 
Posted : 22/04/2014 6:19 am
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Last time I crashed the car, I'd had about 8 cans and a bottle of wine. Plus a handful of e's and some speed.

The coppers didn't even breathalyse me as there was diesel on the road which was clear to see. It helps that I know the local polis though, small town and all that.

Grow up!


 
Posted : 22/04/2014 6:20 am
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Last time I crashed the car, I'd had about 8 cans and a bottle of wine. Plus a handful of e's and some speed.

The coppers didn't even breathalyse me as there was diesel on the road which was clear to see. It helps that I know the local polis though, small town and all that.

You could have the good grace to take advantage of the fortuitous diesel and taken yourself out of the gene pool for society's benefit.

Hanging is too good for 'em etc


 
Posted : 22/04/2014 6:29 am
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Used to be one. But the busier and longer my days became this turned into none, I was tired enough already.

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Last time I crashed the car, I'd had about 8 cans and a bottle of wine. Plus a handful of e's and some speed.

How long ago was this? I've known quite a lot of people that used to drive under such high levels of 'influence' but none in the last 15-20 years. Having become middle aged I've no idea what the culture of today's Yoof think about drink driving. I'm curious as to whether there's been a shift further away from acceptability? Instinctually I'd say yes, but I'm not basing that on anything.

Never done it myself, and I'd hope this was to do with more than not having a driving license until quite recently.


 
Posted : 22/04/2014 6:33 am
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Normally zero, I may have 1 bottle of beer if I was eating but that is as much as I would do. For no other reason than that I don't feel as in control as I would like after much more than that. Irrelevant of the legal limit, if I'm in charge of 2 tones of steel I want to be on top of my game.


 
Posted : 22/04/2014 7:19 am
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The stigma attached to drink driving in the UK is interesting. It just shows how effective the ad campaigns were in the 70s and 80s. People in Germany seem genuinely surprised when I tell them about it and drink driving is a lot more prevalent here especially in the countryside. One thing I find curious though is the legal limit becomes lower if you are involved in a crash.


 
Posted : 22/04/2014 7:21 am
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Last time I crashed the car, I'd had about 8 cans and a bottle of wine. Plus a handful of e's and some speed.
The coppers didn't even breathalyse me as there was diesel on the road which was clear to see. It helps that I know the local polis though, small town and all that.

Obviously made up.

But that doesn't make you any less of a bellend.


 
Posted : 22/04/2014 7:42 am
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"Drive on" Drive on what? a roll on roll off ferry, a bridge, a beach..

Give us a clue wontcha.. ๐Ÿ™„


 
Posted : 22/04/2014 7:45 am
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Speeding poses a much greater risk than driving after a couple of pints.
Both wrong, but why is speeding seen as acceptable or even celebrated.


 
Posted : 22/04/2014 8:03 am
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To my eternal shame, about 4 years ago, I once woke up at an exes house without remembering how i'd got there, she then informed me I'd driven. Even now i only remember glimpses of the journey, but what i do remember is back roads going about 15-20mph all the way (about 10 miles). I was 18 then and it was definately the kick up the backside I needed.

Now I'll have no more than 2 and wait for at least an hour or two after the last drink before getting behind the wheel. Even then I definately pay more attention to my driving than I do normally, ie, i don't let myself go into autopilot.


 
Posted : 22/04/2014 8:10 am
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Speeding poses a much greater risk than driving after a couple of pints.

There are so many variables as to make that sentence a nonsense. Do you think for example a car going 33mph in a 30 limit with a 100% sober driver (of average ability) will stop in a longer distance than a car going at 30mph driven by driver (of average ability) with 4 units in their blood stream? I would put money on the opposite being true.

I'm not condoning either, and understanding what you are driving at (pun intended), but I'm not convinced sweeping generalisations like that are particularly helpful.


 
Posted : 22/04/2014 8:11 am
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I don't drink alcohol much, and have virtually no tolerance, so it would be zero for me. I reckon my ability would be noticeably impaired after a couple of units.

People who drink more, and more regularly, might be a different story. People just need to be honest about what they're feeling, even if they're still well under the limit.


 
Posted : 22/04/2014 8:16 am
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None.


 
Posted : 22/04/2014 8:18 am
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I'm typing this post while driving, so I'll keep it brief, I find drink driving to be a total disregard for other peoples safety.


 
Posted : 22/04/2014 8:31 am
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I'm not condoning either, and understanding what you are driving at (pun intended), but I'm not convinced sweeping generalisations like that are particularly helpful.

Driving home through town at night, you encounter another driver at double the limit. Would you rather it was,

a) The Stig at double the speed limit, or

b) George Best at double the blood alcohol limit?


 
Posted : 22/04/2014 8:42 am
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I'd say b), because the speed limit in town is 30mph so double that would be 60mph, which would be terrifying


 
Posted : 22/04/2014 8:49 am
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I got followed out of the Watermill at Ings after a Wednesday night ride in the Lakes and pulled over in a "summer road safety campaign"

WPC - Have you had a drink?
Me - Yes
WP - When did you have it and how many?
Me - I'd just finished my second pint and left the pub at closing time.
WPC - I will need to breathalyse you but I need to wait half an hour from the time of your last drink.
Me - Oh well looks like we are going to be sitting here for a while.
WPC - OK I can do a breath test now and if you fail we can wiat until half an hour and then test you again and see the result?
Me - Great
WPC - Blow into this please
Me - Puff
WPC - OK (looks at digital display) its 12 microgrammes so you are all clear.
Me - Thanks very much and good night!

So two pints of weak ale is well under the limit.

Interestingly a few years back a motorcycle magazine did a comparisson between different factors that affect your ability to ride. Drink, drugs, lack of sleep and cold. All had an affect but being very cold was the one that was most surprising with such a high impariment of function and performance. Similarly being tired was also quite an impairment. The results for drinking and drugs were more varied due to how different people cope and react etc. The results for combinations were also very interesting.

All this disucssion would be much more straight forward if there was a zero limit. Then people would at least know exactly where they stood.


 
Posted : 22/04/2014 8:51 am
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A good story and some interesting points there tomaso. It throws up two questions:

1. Why the half hour wait?

2. What was the time period over which you had drunk your weak ales? (By 'weak' I'm assuming somewhere around the 3.8% ABV mark)


 
Posted : 22/04/2014 8:57 am
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I think the delay is to enable alcohol lingering in your mouth to go and for the alcohol you've drunk to be absorbed by your blood so that it will register from the deep lung breath you need to breath into a breathalyser. By the time she actually offered to do the breath test it had been 20 minutes since I'd drunk so I don't think another 10 minutes would've made too much difference.

The time period for drinking was under an hour to sip two 3.2-3.8% ales and eat some salty snacks after a vigerous 2.5 hour bike ride. I'm 6 foot 2 and weigh about 14 odd stone.


 
Posted : 22/04/2014 9:08 am
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The odd thing in Luxembourg is it's not yet socially unacceptable to drink drive. At my first Xmas party here, the organiser read out a list of drink drive check locations so people could avoid them.


 
Posted : 22/04/2014 9:29 am
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zero.


 
Posted : 22/04/2014 9:32 am
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Some excellent datums there, thanks for that!


 
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