[Closed] How do they do it? Benefits/Life of Riley Content.

Do they have Sky tv?

15 pages..2 bans and a flounce

as an opener

Yip, and a huge TV and they have a couple of holidays abroad each year.

This is not a complaint about them. Think of it as a request for a how to guide.

4 x child tax credits, income & housing support, motability (probably), child support, job seekers allowance x 2. No tax, no NI, Tesco's value food, etc.

Even with my lack of knowledge regarding the current income support system, they are probably better off than you and me.

[i]they have a couple of holidays abroad each year.[/i]

Term time?

Could they be former oil execs who no longer have to work for a living and can dedicate their lives to procreation and leisure?

Term time?

Nope.

Is it this pair of chancers?

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Are they keen horticulturists?

Are they slightly rotund too?

They probably pimp their kids ooot to politicians.

Lottery winners, but because they've given nearly all of it away to charity they have to slum it in your neck of the woods. The VW camper is the one extravagance they've allowed themselves.

Must be plenty of child benefit involved...

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They have just bought a reasonably high spec 15 plate VW Transporter Shuttle.

Pfff, amateurs

[url= http://www.newsy.com/videos/prince-william-gets-helicopter-from-queen-for-birthday/ ]
Prince William gets helicopter from Queen for his Birthday[/url]

Bloody immigrants!!

Maybe they don't work because they don't need to? big inheritance, rich parents, clever investments?

or they could be the dreaded SCROUNGER

15 pages..2 bans and a flounce

as an opener

We've not had a good flounce for ages.....

4 x child tax credits, income & housing support, motability (probably), child support, job seekers allowance x 2. No tax, no NI, Tesco's value food, etc.

Even with my lack of knowledge regarding the current income support system, they are probably better off than you and me.

^^This.
I'm not sure it is as difficult as you think - chuck in a bit of cash-in-hand work and a few ebay wins/boot fairs and they're certainly better off than lots of working folk.

There is a kid in my daughters class, who live a few doors down from us. His folks have never worked, apparently the Dad has stress/anxiety issues, and the Mum has to stay home to look after him.
Which does make you wonder why they need a Mitsubishi pick up and nearly new Astra (Motability car)

My wife has taught dozens of kids over the years who are destined to be the third generation of their families who've never worked.
They often have no interest in achieving anything as they have no intention of working - as others have mentioned - they don't seem to go short of holidays, etc.

If it is purely benefits then it's a great example of how the system is simply not fit for purpose and makes a mockery out of the majority of hard working people.

how do you know they don't work?

mate of mine never appears to work. always out riding with a lot of disposable income.

he remotely manages online casino's for a vast sum of money. mostly in the middle of the night it would seem.

edit cant be bothered

majority of hard working people.

[i]They have just bought a reasonably high spec 15 plate VW Transporter Shuttle.[/i]

Sold one of their buy to lets maybe, cashed in a stocks and shares ISA, lots of other reasons other than you paying for it.

[i]makes a mockery out of the majority of hard working people.[/i] Oh the irony.

theres plenty around like this sadly

No there really isn't.

What we need is more austerity!!

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theres plenty around like this sadly

No there really isn't

😆 maybe not in STW middle class towers no

jam bo

how do you know they don't work?
mate of mine never appears to work. always out riding with a lot of disposable income.
he remotely manages online casino's for a vast sum of money. mostly in the middle of the night it would seem.

At a casual glance I don't appear to work. My car is outside the house 6 out of 8 days. But I work continental shifts. 2 days, up and gone before 6am not back until 8pm, then 2 night shifts, so the car is outside when "normal people" are at work.

If a life of benefits is so easy why don't you give it a go?

At least one of my neighbours assumed that I didn't have a job. I work from home, come and go at irregular hours and don't have a works van outside so there's no outwards signs of employment.

At a casual glance I don't work.

Oh hang on, I don't work - not in a paid sense, though I've spent a lot of hours on a project which might result in me and my partner becoming very rich if we can sell it properly.

At least one of my neighbours assumed that I didn't have a job. I work from home, come and go at irregular hours and don't have a works van outside so there's no outwards signs of employment.

Same here.

We've not had a good flounce for ages..

I know, seemed like we had a run of them a while back, nothing for ages.

Needs more surfmat

Needs more surfmat

guess who's business card landed on my desk the other day...

Oh hang on, I don't work - not in a paid sense, though I've spent a lot of hours on a project which might result in me and my partner becoming very rich if we can sell it properly.

Hoverboards?

Finally!!!

My wife has taught dozens of kids over the years who are destined to be the third generation of their families who've never worked

Dozens encountered by one teacher? I guess your wife could be in at the start of a new cultural phenomenom but that whole [url= https://www.jrf.org.uk/report/are-cultures-worklessness-passed-down-generations ]worklessness passed down generations[/url] myth has been debunked so it seems a bit unlikely.

guess who's business card landed on my desk the other day...

surfmat has a business card? what did it say on it?

"I'm more awesomer than you, deal with it"

My wife has taught dozens of kids over the years who are destined to be the third generation of their families who've never worked

Wasn't the "three generations who've never worked" claim made during the last election campaign? And didn't it turn out to be rubbish?

https://www.jrf.org.uk/report/are-cultures-worklessness-passed-down-generations

Key points

The idea of 'three generations of the same family who have never worked' appeals to many, including politicians and policy-makers, as an explanation of entrenched worklessness in the UK.

[b]Despite strenuous efforts, the researchers were unable to locate any such families. Even two generations of complete worklessness in the same family was a very rare phenomenon,[/b] which is consistent with recent quantitative surveys of this issue.

Families experiencing long-term worklessness remained committed to the value of work and preferred to be in jobs rather than on benefits.

There was no evidence of 'a culture of worklessness' – values, attitudes and behaviours discouraging employment and encouraging welfare dependency – in the families.

Workless parents were keen for their children to do better than they had, and actively tried to help them find jobs. Working-age offspring remained strongly committed to conventional values about work as part of a normal transition to adulthood. They were keen to avoid the poverty, worklessness and other problems experienced by their parents.

The long-term worklessness of parents in these families was a result of the impact of complex, multiple problems associated with living in deep poverty over years.

Policy-makers and politicians need to abandon theories – and resulting policies – that see worklessness as primarily the outcome of a culture of worklessness, held in families and passed down the generations.

Same here.

How is the Paper clip speciality web cam service franchise working out?

DLA/Mobility can be a huge earner , we recieve just over £800 a month for my son who has epilepsy and autism.
we both work as well.

Does one of them have a wheelchair? as the only transporters available on the Motability scheme are WAV's

No wheelchair or disabilities.

DLA/Mobility can be a huge earner , we recieve just over £800 a month for my son who has epilepsy and autism.

https://www.gov.uk/dla-disability-living-allowance-benefit/what-youll-get

2. DLA rates
The rate you get is made up of 2 components (parts). How much you get depends on how your disability or health condition affects you.

Care component
Lowest - £21.80 -Help for some of the day or with preparing cooked meals
Middle - £55.10 - Frequent help or constant supervision during the day, supervision at night or someone to help you while on dialysis
Highest - £82.30 - Help or supervision throughout both day and night, or you’re terminally ill

Mobility component
Lower £21.80 Guidance or supervision outdoors
Higher £57.45 You have any other, more severe, walking difficulty

If a life of benefits is so easy why don't you give it a go?

You would need to **** away your assets first, assuming you had more than £16k of them.

Actually, that sounds like a win-win.

4 x child tax credits, income & housing support, motability (probably), child support, job seekers allowance x 2. No tax, no NI, Tesco's value food, etc.

How much is child benefit on top of that?

workers:
2 people on minimum wage after tax = £11,055.96 x 2 = £22111.92
They could claim working tax credit of around £4000 + childcare costs
=£26111
minus off the rent as the other 2 get housing benefit
=20k?

UK average salary is £26,500 x 2
£43k so a fair bit more..

I'd say it doesn't really add up and those saying that they are probably better off than them are full of shit.

surfmat has a business card? what did it say on it?

"I'm more awesomer than you, deal with it"

I so want this to be true, ideally with a animated GIF.

minus off the rent as the other 2 get housing benefit
=20k?

UK average salary is £26,500 x 2
£43k so a fair bit more..

And if we were both to work, the cost of the kids nursery, school meals, breakfast / afternoon clubs, travel...

Work that out, and I think you find disposable income is much different between them and us.

So far you've calculated them on a £1600 monthly disposable income, lovely.