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I feel pleased the 'horas' travel around in any car driven by me.....but also scared for them 😐
Perhaps timc was a bit harsh, but it does come across as though Kryton57 is saying that she is only a woman and therefore couldnt possibly drive a car with 240hp safely.
Personally I would think the BM is safer than a Ford Kuga. The BM will go round corners better, stop quicker and not kill pedestrians as well.
Edit - Oh I didnt realise inclement weather = snow. That makes it more irrelevant as 240hp is useless in snow!
oh timc you just cant help yourself.
You assumed that I said my wife couldnt drive as well as me. Your problem not mine.
Biking in the snow, done properly isn't being an ass. Obviously then your limited in your MTB experience. It can be fun, and trails can be clear and as firm as summer riding, i won't be the first / only one to have done it.
Shouldn't you at be school?
FunkyDunc - I think any feminists on here would slate the three of you for leaping immediately to that conclusion, rather than me writing a sentence without explanation.
I've provided the explanation.
Thanks
P.S. - Try getting things factually correct - "240bhp is useless in snow" is an untrue incorrect statement.
I think any feminists on here would slate the three of you for leaping immediately to that conclusion, rather than me writing a sentence without explanation.
Really?! I'm not sure I'd agree with that, I'm a male thirtysomething without a history of feminism. I suspect someone who had experienced the degree of misogynism prevalent in current society, and who had taken an active interest in the feminist cause would almost certainly assume the same as I did, probably with more grounds for that assumption than me too!
Then again, I'm often wrong.
You assumed that I said my wife couldnt drive as well as me. Your problem not mine.
Its not a problem squire, but why not face up to it, its what you meant!
Biking in the snow, done properly isn't being an ass. Obviously then your limited in your MTB experience. It can be fun, and trails can be clear and as firm as summer riding, i won't be the first / only one to have done it.
I actually meant i was being an ass for asking the question 🙄
Shouldn't you at be school?
In English class with you? 😉
Timc, it isnt what I meant, If I did I'd happily admit it to you.
Bye.
"240bhp is useless in snow" is an untrue incorrect statement.
Go on enlighten me?
FD - its very purile I can't be bothered, equally, you prove to me that your very generic statement is correct?
Don't you have the time / inclanation / just cant?
np, I'm not bothered by it enough to want to see the results tbh.
"240bhp is useless in snow" is an untrue incorrect statement.Go on enlighten me?
I bet this has got more than 240bhp:
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I think the point Kryton making was that giving just a power figure says nothing, because it gives no context 🙂
Dave
Nothing like having a good pointless chat on STW I feel... 🙂
In the snow you shouldn't be using anything like 240hp more like 20. Fair enough if your a rally driving god, and the roads are empty then you probably would make good progress using 240hp but you would have to be good. Is that OK?
Nothing like having a good pointless chat on STW I feel....... Is that OK?
Says it all really. *drinks tea, goes back to work*
Nothing like having a good pointless chat on STW I feel...In the snow you shouldn't be using anything like 240hp more like 20. Fair enough if your a rally driving god, and the roads are empty then you probably would make good progress using 240hp but you would have to be good. Is that OK?
Pointless chat continued...
I reckon you'd need more than 20hp to shift that snow-mobile thing in alfbus's post though, and them gritting lorries that go out they've got to be packing some power (albeit in a low performance diesel!).
Sorry, did someone mention context??!!
Actually our XF went like a dream in the snows last year, and thats circa 240 HP RWD ... once fitted with winter tyres, and i certainly am not any form of driving god.
The wifes mini on the other hand with all of its 70 HP just sat there being grumpy.
Mighty, yep I am sure your XF was fine in the snow, as was an MX5 I used to have, but I assume you were not using all 240 horses in the snow?
Cars are only as powerful as how much you press the accelerator and Kryton obviously doesnt think his wife can gently press the accelrator (which has to be said is quite a common problem with BM drivers in the snow...)
FunkyDunc - Member
....Kryton obviously doesnt think his wife can gently press the accelrator (which has to be said is quite a common problem with BM drivers in the snow...)
*yawn*
Edit: Lol at the moderation....
It's more of a case of powerful torquey engine + RWD + (wide) summer tyres being the perfect storm when it snows. A car with a weedy engine, FWD and skinny tyres is the opposite.
It's more of a case of powerful torquey engine + RWD + (wide) summer tyres being the perfect storm when it snows. A car with a weedy engine, FWD and skinny tyres is the opposite.
I'd say its more a matter of right tool (tyre) for the job, even with 240HP and 245 tyres, ours got around without a hitch, doubly so by selecting the snow setting which utilises 2nd gear start offs and deadens the acceleration curve.
Same reason I don't ride all winter on my continental speed kings.
The wifes weedy Mini with the skinny run flats powering through front wheel drive wasn't going anywhere, hence she stole mine ...
Lucky she didn't die or something.
fwd vs rwd makes surprisingly little difference from a weight perspective. a fwd car typically has 55:45 weight distribution (taking the audi a4 as an example), a bimmer has 50:50. in a 1500kg car this would lead to 75kg (ie the weight of a bloke) extra over the driven wheels.
fwd does lead to torque vectoring, which makes driving in the snow easier, and as mentioned above, big sporty saloons often have wide summer tyres on them not helping things out
A mate of mine puked up on a BMW bonnet after a particularly heavy night some years ago.
Some days later he chanced upon the same car, with a distinct discoloured patch where the acidic vomit had eaten away at the car's paintwork. 😯
I thought it was quite funny, personally. Which is all that matters really.
255 summer tyres, rwd and snow. The car stayed on the drive in the snow. I worked from home and it was 2.1inch and 8sp Alfine for me 😀 happy memories.
It's more of a case of powerful torquey engine + RWD + (wide) summer tyres being the perfect storm when it snows. A car with a weedy engine, FWD and skinny tyres is the opposite.
Yep the humble 2CV is awesome in the snow
My BMW will go in the snow as well as any other car. In fact it's better than most and I've used it to pull other cars out when stuck.
Can't see what the issue is? I can't think of a car I'd rather have in the snow than my BMW...
I can't think of a car I'd rather have in the snow than my BMW...
A Land Rover Defender?
A Land Rover Defender?
Yep, that's what it is, it rolled out of Lode Lane in Solihull under the ownership of BMW before it became Ford 🙂
See, not all BMWs are bad in the snow (or well built for that matter, my (BMW) looks like it was put together by drunk monkeys*)
*This may not be far from the truth, and some BMW feel like new after 100,000 miles, mine leaks water in, I wouldn't be surprised if it's done that since new so I suppose it counts.