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Only election for Police and Crime Commissioner in both my "home" constituency/ward and where I was last registered to vote.
I'm more interested in whether they can stretch as far as double figure turnouts, than the candidates elected to a position that I have no clue why it even exists.
PCC only, and we're on our third chief constable this month. Cock and balls time.
Plaid,not sure why anyone here would vote for the anti-Welsh party that is UKIP.
These people all have the vote:
[edit] ahem a bit too sweary on second reading. have a look at @mrs_coyle timeline on twitter.
Torn at the moment. Labour and Green are my final too, but how I put them down on the ballot paper will be the hard choice.
PCC thing seems like a joke...
Oh dear I've just been moderated for allegedly trying to bypass the swear filter on this thread 🙄
Basically I called the SNP a bunch * for totally ** up the local democratic planning process in my area, the *. And my local MSP, the SNP's Keith Brown can't comment on ScotGov call in of a money grabbing development in my area which was voted down by the local authority planning committee as it is on greenbelt, because he is a Govt Minister, **. The ** are in the thrall of celebrity * like Judy Murray and don't like to listen to stuff at a grassroots level as they think it is not worth their while.
2 x Green for me as they are the only ones whose people have shown any credibility.
*** ***** * *** * so there.
SNP/Green.
SNP generally doing a pretty good job and showing up the Scottish branch of the Labour Party and the "Line in the Sand" Tories as being incompetent fools. However, I reckon they've become a bit scared of losing any voters and are simply playing things too safe. The Greens offer more radical solutions to the likes of land ownership and a council tax replacement so I'd like to see them in some sort of coalition.
[i]However, I reckon they've become a bit scared of losing any voters and are simply playing things too safe. The Robert Mugabe party offer more radical solutions to the likes of land ownership and a council tax replacement so I'd like to see them in some sort of coalition.[/i]
FTFY
BoardinBob - Member
I won't vote for the SNP. Anything else is pointless. I'm not going to bother my arse.
On behalf of all Scots wanting to live in a country not ruled from elsewhere, thank you. 🙂
SNP/SNP here. I'm not enthusiastic about some of their policies and sometimes the way they go about things, but they're still much better than the secondrate losers in the BritNat parties who take their orders from London.
My choices this evening will be from the following list:
Northern Ireland Labour Representation Committee
Green Party
Alliance Party
Cross-Community Labour Alternative
South Belfast Unionists
SDLP
TUV
Workers Party
DUP
Conservative
UUP
SDLP
Alliance Party
Sinn Féin
Independent
PUP
DUP
UKIP
Voting??
Holyrood, Westminster? What's the difference they're still a bunch of self serving twunts. Wouldn't piss on our SNP candidate if he was on fire.
And going beyond soundbites and such, best manifesto of the lot is Libs. Shame nobody actually has an energy policy beyond some vague commitment several years after we need new generation online.
And from where I'm standing SNP aren't dojng anything better than the last lot did, in fact remind me what happened to re regulation of public transport? Was that bawbag Soutar not involved? No council tax rises in years and you can't drive or ride ten feet in any direction without falling down a ****ing pothole, thanks guys, damn those cads in Westminster for forcing you not to use the tax raising powers you great and whined for then chose not to because Westminster are being bad and cutting your budget (not that they ever really have unless you want to get into the selfish pay more than we get back bollocks).
The difference now is that they can sit on their laurels thanks to idiots who vote for sentimental pish rather than results rather than try to keep themselves in like they bloody well should be doing.
PAB in the locals, they only stand in a few wards here.
No idea about the PCC.
Yep Andy - that's the canidates standing in South Belfast
squirrelking - MemberNo council tax rises in years and you can't drive or ride ten feet in any direction without falling down a **** pothole, thanks guys,
At the risk of dragging it further OT,
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-34326185
The Scottish Government funding intended to balance the council tax freeze, has ended up actually exceeding it- so councils have ended up better off than they would have been had they increased rates by RPI.
I was really surrpised by this, tbh, considering that the freeze has been blamed for all ills.
Similar views to Scotroutes
Both Green for me.
SNP will get in, nae danger.
But I'd like to see the Greens move up and be treated a bit more seriously so even though they'll not get in here, I'll give 'em a couple of extra numbers
[quote=yourguitarhero ]Similar views to Scotroutes
Both Green for me.
[b]SNP will get in, nae danger.[/b]
I've a suspicion that the Holyrood voting system will see a return to minority or coalition govt this time around (it was always planned thus - the SNP "broke the system" last time).
PCC here, i won't vote for something i don't believe in, i can't even be bothered to make the trip to the polling station to draw a cock and balls.
Also West Mercia PCC
Very similar to Stoner about it. UKIP and Independent no chance, not particulalrly happy with either Labour or Tory.
Shame there is not a 'none of the above' box to tick. Felt I should vote and as it was a very pleasant stroll in the sunshine to the polling station at the Wyche, eventually decided on a candidate whilst I was waiting in the queue ( yes really, all three of us).
Voted green as it as the closest I could think of to the NOA box I would have liked to tick
[Jeff Golblum Holsten Pils]I drew an "X" in various voting card boxes for people I wanted to win the election.[/Jeff Goldblum Holsten Pils] 😆
Northwind - I am surprised by that considering the state of near enough the entire country. Wonder what the excuse is then?
Spoiled constituency, no way am I voting for the least worst bawbag.
My wife got me to draw something like this on her PCC vote
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Very long term MS
I voted last week (postal votes FTW), local elections only here. Probably wasted as I live in a safe Tory ward.
Why can't we have a proper electoral system for local elections, where FPTP arguably makes even less sense than it does for Parliament?
I dont know what a police and crime comissioner is but I have voted for one!
Why can't we have a proper electoral system for local elections, where FPTP arguably makes even less sense than it does for Parliament?
I think the opposite FPTP makes more sense the smaller the constituency, a council ward is just a few thousand.
I think the opposite FPTP makes more sense the smaller the constituency, a council ward is just a few thousand.
Why have wards at all? Why not say 'you need to elect x councillors for the whole council' then do it by e.g. STV?
Current system leads to ridiculous results e.g. a local council which has all but one councillor from the same party on 60% of the vote, and the exception is an independent who was booted out of said party for bad behaviour...
Local: Labour.
Police: Labour.
Normally vote Labour or Conservative.
Tories are doing a rubbish job e.g. NHS and Education.
To me, local politics is about local issues and the best people to represent them are people who live in their communities. Many local Councillors are just people who want to represent their community and not particularly political. I think that is a pretty good thing and would be lost if a list system was used.
Why have wards at all? Why not say 'you need to elect x councillors for the whole council' then do it by e.g. STV?Current system leads to ridiculous results e.g. a local council which has all but one councillor from the same party on 60% of the vote
Because a ward councillor's role is to represent their ward and the people who live in it. It allows for a better connection between voters and the people they elect to represent them
And if a party gets an average 60% of the vote in a local council election then it makes sense that the people are represented by a councillor from the party which the majority has voted for.
As mefty points out FPTP makes more sense the smaller the constituency - it makes less sense in larger constituencies.
Got 10 minutes left to vote. Still not going to happen.
Blah, blah, I have no right to moan then if I don't express my vote. Whatever. All on the list are corrupt or useless anyway.
Whatever. All on the list are corrupt or useless anyway.
You didn't fancy standing? Or are all your neighbours only interested in voting for corrupt or useless candidates?
Voted Green in the end.. Mainly because I know the candidate and how good she would be if elected.
Local: Green Party
Welsh Assembly : Plaid
Couldn't double green in my constituency sadly. Can't stand the snp so in tribute to the late great chazza went lib dem for local
Voted nealry a week ago by post. Parish Council was the best 13 candidates and you can vote for 12 - I voted for the 10 independents - skipped the 3 Lib Dems
Changed my vote last minute, went Spoiled/RISE.
They're a new party, who won't win a seat, but I reckoned it worthwhile to contribute towards a wee morale boost.
So who voted UKIP in Wales ? ITV predicting they will win 8 seats in the Welsh Assembly
I voted against the majority in the North East ... 😈
We went and voted for our PCC; I disagree with the position, but as it's not going away I'd rather the slimy tory didn't get it.
It was just the PCC vote here; it was eye opening to see how few crossed out names there were, my wife and I may have totally swung the whole thing with twenty minutes to go!
Ronnie the Crofter for me!
(Couldn't vote SNP as the local candidate is a Creationist. We need people who listen to scientists in power, not airheads).
As mefty points out FPTP makes more sense the smaller the constituency - it makes less sense in larger constituencies.
The counter-argument to that is that it's easier to merge smaller constituencies into the larger ones needed for a more proportional system.
Do the Irish, the Kiwis or the Germans worry about the 'constituency link'?
And if a party gets an average 60% of the vote in a local council election then it makes sense that the people are represented by a councillor from the party which the majority has voted for.
While I agree 60% of the vote should give a majority (and under FTPT would rightly result in a constituency candidate being elected), across a whole city it's not right that the view of the 40% who didn't vote for the party in power aren't represented at all, nor is it right that there's no opposition on the council.
Ukip got 13% of vote in Wales, similar to general election but with proportional representation they'll end up with 5 - 8 ? seats.
Glad Corbyn survives but media still got there claws out.
it's not right that the view of the 40% who didn't vote for the party in power aren't represented at all
They are represented, but not necessarily by someone who they voted for.
Looks like I'm going to get the result I wanted and predicted. Minority SNP government with a Green tinge.