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Congrats mate. I'm giving up weighing myself for a month now as i'm happy where i am at the moment both physically and mentally with this. I had a new gym session and program with my instructor yesterday. Today i ACHE.... which is weird, as i didn't really even sweat lol


 
Posted : 02/11/2012 8:37 am
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good work with the fasting & gym. The aching is DOMS and IME comes solely from using muscles that don't normally see much use. Once you settle into a regular exercise routine you don't get it anymore.


 
Posted : 02/11/2012 9:45 am
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Once you settle into a regular exercise routine you don't get it anymore

I have one, it's not like exercise/gym is new to me.... it obviously just wasn't doing the right things 🙂


 
Posted : 02/11/2012 10:17 am
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So i've moved my fasting days to Mon and Wed due to working in the office on them days, it's a lot easier when in the office and the temptation of being at home is out of the way.

For anyone asking about performance, today was a fasting day (2nd this week) and i did some rowing sprints. My performance was actually better than any other times in my past

500m Split/interval times
1.46.2
1.47.1
1.46.1
1.44.5
1.45.2
1.46.5
1.46.9
1.45.8
1.47.3
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2.59.0 (i collapsed lol)
1.44.4


 
Posted : 07/11/2012 1:12 pm
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I started this also doing Mon & Wed's and I've lost 3lbs in two weeks. I have melon & tangerine for breakfast , soup @ lunch and soup & 2 slices of bread in the evening....no booze obviously. Not finding it too hard.


 
Posted : 07/11/2012 1:29 pm
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Been doing this since 1st week in September. So far lost 26 lb, although getting past the second stone loss mark is proving trickier than the first. Tbh im not cutting back on alcohol as much as i coud at weekends etc...and i could easiy do more exercise ! this was always my plan having shifted the first 2stone...wanted to save my knees/ankles some unecessary pain when i do go out jogging !...oh yeah i ought to get out on the bike more too hehe


 
Posted : 07/11/2012 1:37 pm
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A mate has done this diet with great success - me and the wife are about to give it a go to maybe loose a stone each.

600 calories a day seems ok.

Banana 100
Innocent Sweet Chilli Vege Pot 218
Bag of Popcorn 100
2 pumkin Rivita and 250 of mushrooms with Garlic (microwaved....try it!) 120

I will keep you updated....


 
Posted : 13/11/2012 5:59 pm
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600 calories is way too low!!!


 
Posted : 13/11/2012 6:51 pm
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'kinell hoodie, well done mate!.


 
Posted : 13/11/2012 7:05 pm
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Is that just 2 days a week, hoodie?


 
Posted : 13/11/2012 7:07 pm
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600 calories is way too low!!!

Just on the fast days, no?


 
Posted : 14/11/2012 5:54 pm
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er..... a fast day is zero cals surely??

ive done it 2 ways, firstly a 24hr period with no cals, then theres eating in 8hr windows, so naturally eat less. zero calories for 16hrs. if you are eating tho, id say 600 is far too low.

ideally youd be doing this way of eating for ever, so it needs to be something you can sustain. i prefer the 16/8 method, and am doing that presently to lose some gut fat 🙂 still on 2000 cals a day tho and lost around three quarters of a stone over a couple of months.
when im ready ill just up it to around 2500 per day to maintain weight, or mebbes 3000 if im trying to put on some lean mass.


 
Posted : 14/11/2012 6:08 pm
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The 5:2 method, that was featured on the Horizon programme as well as in The Times mag the other weekend, dictates 2 days a week at 600kcal for men, and 500kcal for ladies. The rest of the week is business as usual.


 
Posted : 14/11/2012 9:51 pm
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ah right, sorry, i missed that. i didnt see the programme, just chipped in with a bit of fasting experience 🙂
without knowing all the details, personally id find it easier to just do a big blank zero for the day, than nibble away at 600 cals and still feel hungry. thats just me tho *shrugs shoulders*


 
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Watched this show last night, been on my pvr since broadcast but found it quite revelatory. Ok it was almost seemed structured as an advertorial for the 5:2 diet but given that I'm sold.

It's not that I even need to lose weight really, although a few pounds off would be nice, it's that the idea of being a bit hungry for a couple of days a week could extend your life potentially by years and prevent you from getting any/many of the common illnesses of ageing. [url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19112549 ]BBC blurb here[/url] sure it's been on this thread before.

Gratuitous pic of Dr Krista Varady here>

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Just weighed - 12 stone bang on. BOOM 🙂


 
Posted : 15/11/2012 5:34 pm
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Evening folks,
weeksy, I'm starting the "horizon" diet next week to shift about a stone.

Was looking through the thread but crap computer is slow so skipped to the end.

Am planning to weigh myself each week but also going to measure my waist etc, did you do any if that?

Good stuff by the way, keep it up! Den


 
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As long as you way yourself at the same time each week, you will be able to track the loss. I do it the morning after my second fast day! (Should be at my lightest)
18lbs gone. I'm exactly 1 minute quicker up the hill from Hathersage to Burbage a 2 mile, 3.5% climb.
Log your rides on Strava and as the weight comes off, watch as you get new PB's nearly every week.


 
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edit wrong thread


 
Posted : 22/11/2012 5:30 pm
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Well the weight is only sneaking off a little bit at a time, however on my non-fasting days i have been VERY bad... bordering on ridiculous at times hahahaha.

Mother-in-Law came over today, first time in a few months i've seen her, she arrived with the words "oh my, you can't lose any more weight, you look far too thin".... which is obviously quite pleasing to a man on a diet

I can though... i still have 14lb... although i said that 14lb ago


 
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Mother-in-Law came over today, first time in a few months i've seen her, she arrived with the words "oh my, you can't lose any more weight, you look far too thin".... which is obviously quite pleasing to a man on a diet
Believe me, it gets old fast, when people constantly say "you're too thin", "don't lose any more", etc. I think most people have been conditioned to think that overweight is [i]normal[/i] - and I suppose it is really, these days.


 
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Just got weighed this morning and I think I'm just about half a stone lighter in one month....so really pleased with myself !


 
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Aye, this morning's weigh in shows that Operation TubGone is going well, 1.5kg lost this week, 5kg in total over the last six weeks 🙂

It's nothing too scientific either, sort of kind of fasting-ish, or rather going on an empty stomach for a bit, especially after exercise:

Mon, Weds, Fri - coffee on way to work, take breakfast (muesli) to work so have it about 2 hours after I get up. Sarnie and apple for lunch. Normal dinner, no snacks, no booze.

Tues, Thurs - three quarter of an hour ride straight out of bed (rollers, road or MTB, depending on weather). Coffee but no breakfast. Lunch, dinner etc same as above.

Weekend - At least one decent ride. Normal food and booze, but no snacks.

Seems to be working, and should be entirely sustainable.


 
Posted : 27/11/2012 10:19 am
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Congrats lads 🙂


 
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[i]and should be entirely sustainable.[/i]

Exactly !. While the how is important and will vary for lots of people.
Sustainability is key. imo.

Carry on !.


 
Posted : 27/11/2012 11:00 am
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Tuesday weigh in: 0.4kg lost this week. Bit less than I was hoping for, but no big ride this weekend due to this and that. Still, it's continuing in the right direction.


 
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I've been going about five weeks on the 2 day fast plan now and have lost just over half a stone...Can I expect to see the weight loss continue for some time or will it plataeu after a couple of months?


 
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Just wondered if any people were still on this diet ? I stopped over xmas but continued with it after New Year. Probably lost about 9 lbs now in about 2 months ...though lost some during xmas.

Wondering how long the weight loss may continue?


 
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Stopped for christmas, but started again last week. I'd put on 4 pounds (from my lowest) over christmas, which isnt bad. better than expected.


 
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Dabbled with it for a bit. Seems ok, but I don't think they have factored just how much I 'go for it' on the alleged eat as much as you want days 8)

I suppose the fact I maintained, rather than put any weight on, shows it works.

I also see that Mr Mosley [url= http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Fast-Diet-Intermittent-Fasting/dp/1780721676/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1359548029&sr=8-1 ]now has a book on Amazon @ £3.85[/url].


 
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11st 3lbs and in 32" jeans! woohoo


 
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Me and Onzadog started doing this just after New Year and are pleased with the results so far. Fasting days are nowhere near as bad as I thought they'd be, and I've always been of the 'eat regularly' camp, have always thought about food and what I'd be eating next!
In fact, the last two fast days I've gone all day without food (just lots of herbal teas and water) and have one main meal of 500 calories about 6-7pm. Feel surprisingly good doing that. And in total I've lost 8lbs so far.

I've already had one comment just this morning that I don't need to lose any more weight, but piffle to that. I'd like to lose another 9lbs to get to 10 stone, which would still peg me in the 'healthy' bracket for my height and I might even stand a chance finding some knee/shin pads that will fit over my 'sturdy' legs 🙁


 
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[i]Wondering how long the weight loss may continue[/i]

If you're doing exactly the same thing each week. Then I reckon you will lose weight until you reach an energy balance. After that I'd expect you would have to create a different imbalance for your body to use up fat reserves ?.

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If you're doing exactly the same thing each week. Then I reckon you will lose weight until you reach an energy balance. After that I'd expect you would have to create a different imbalance for your body to use up fat reserves ?.

This is what I can't quite get my head around...shouldn't the weight loss continue forever if you are in a calorie deficit position....or is it that the "lighter you" requires less calories to operate and this is where the balance occurs ?


 
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If you are lighter you need less calories to maintain your weight. Also you may find your metabolism slowing which is why rats and mice put on very low calorie diets live longer than those allowed to eat what they like. No clinical trials to prove it will work in humans but also no reason to expect that it won't


 
Posted : 30/01/2013 3:44 pm
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I'd like to lose another 9lbs to get to 10 stone, which would still peg me in the 'healthy' bracket for my height

are you 9 feet tall or a girl ?


 
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[i]If you are lighter you need less calories to maintain your weight.[/i]

AFAIK, this is valid. Having less living tissue to keep alive, your body will require fewer calories.

Thing is, you don't really want to be losing muscle, only fat and only if you have an excess of fat, on board.


 
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interesting thread. i missed this show, anyone know if its on iplayer or anything?

it would be really easy for me to adapt by diet to include 2 fasting days, mon-fri i'm almost there anyhow. breakfast 2 eggs scambled, lunch 1/2 tin baked beans, sensible dinner. no booze. may well give it a try.


 
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interesting thread. i missed this show, anyone know if its on iplayer or anything?

Probably not on iPlayer anymore, but the main points are covered by Weeksy on page 1 of the thread.

...or the book I linked to above is only 3-4 quid on Amazon.


 
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are you 9 feet tall or a girl ?

I was a girl last time I checked 🙂

Gav, you can watch the Horizon proggy [url= http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/110651/BBC_Horizon_2012_Eat_Fast_and_Live_Longer/ ]HERE[/url] if you want.


 
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Currently on my 10th week, gets much easier after a while and am feeling all the better for it. May not be the fastest way to lose it but I can still enjoy my beer


 
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Hi
I'm into my 5th week. I was at the top end of normal
weight and want to lose about half a stone. I have not weighed myself at all, but I can tell by my clothes that O'm gradually losing weight.
I find the fast days way easier than I expected though I sometimes wake up in the early hours feeling ravenous!


 
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cheers for the prog link and book comment guys.i'll check em out.


 
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I have two-three packs of bacon and 4 bottles of redwine a week.

Coldturkey day 2..


 
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Has anyone used this successfully to cut? Gain lean mass and reduce fat?
Are you all losing fat and not lean mass?


 
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