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WTF? I mean really, WTF? And not at the journalists, but at the muppet making that assertion. Links, evidence, testimony? Anything to substantiate it?

Yes journalists in the UK sometimes push the envelope, but I would be massively surprised if this was the case. We really should stop giving the media such a kicking as it is an overwhelmingly positive force in our democracy.

And FFS, Hillsborough was a truly terrible disaster and people did wrong - but what are we going to achieve by endlessly raking over the coals beyond feeding the [b]Merseyside Misery Machine[/b]?

Very sensible post until [b]this[/b], the families of the dead deserve to have their names completely exonerated and then remembered as the innocent victims that they are.

IMO what the police did on that day and their lies since is unforgiveable and the blame must lie in the main with them but some responsibility has to be shouldered by those that got hammered, arrived late and then forced barriers and turnstiles.


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 10:23 am
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We really should stop giving the media such a kicking as it is an overwhelmingly positive force in our democracy.

Do you live in the UK?

Murdock and the right wing anti E bias of the press a positive force for democracy?

the interesting thing is the written media could not reprot news liek that on tv - it is allowed to be partial in its coverage
This is not good for democracy IMHO The holding of power in a few hands is not good for democracy as it encourages politicians to try to get his ear to garner his support.
they also print a load of shit and lies time and time again
they spin things and the distort

For every Guardian snowdon campaign there are hundreds of salacious celebrity gossip and distorted half truth reporting of facts

The devolution vote is a good example of the tactics they use as is the reporting on the EU
they could, and should, be something we are proud of. They are not, they are not even close


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 10:29 am
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The stadium design seems to have been a major factor in what happened.

Finding out about what happened there in '81 in the spurs vs wolves match reinforces this

The stadium was an disaster waiting to happen, and narrowly avoided once before, like so many things, its not one simple mistake by the police on the day, but a series of cumulative factors that created the tragedy.


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 10:42 am
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@thered - the victims have been exonerated, apologies in Parliament etc which I think is why some of us question, in our individual ways of phrasing it, what this hugely expensive inquest will achieve, rather than spending the money on investigating the coverup or something that may benefit wider society.

Regretable turn of phrase "Merseyside Misery Machine" in this particular case.


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 11:54 am
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@Cletus - sadly not. The Leppings Lane terrace was small front to back with a large central tunnel. The surge down the tunnel and onto the terrace was a common sight. Sadly, the opportunity to spill left and right was hard to achieve and contributed to the crush at the front.


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 5:55 pm
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