You won't notice the mental deficiency, we've all seen it in you for ages 😉

Think i'd be off to the docs though, hope it's nothing serious for you!

"I can't feel any mental deficiency"

I guess it depends where you set the bar...

odd it's only one side - normally if I get a blood pressure related thing it's the same both sides.

in my view the fact it's on one side only would warrant a trip to the docs, tbh.

how much coffee you had today?

You won't notice the mental deficiency

I knew someone would say that :o)

I mean I can still decline latin verbs and pronounce antidisestablishmentarianism and write PHP code 🙂

how much coffee you had today?

just 2 cups!

I have to ring in the morning to see my doc.

"and write PHP code"

make the call...

I've been for a CT scan & EEG but they're not willing to commit to what it may have been until I've had more tests and an MRI, but I'm under doctor's orders to eat more due to low blood sugar :o)

Hope things turn out well for you Simon.

eat more is a good cure......... 😆

Pull yourself together Barnes, them women's arses wont ogle themselves you know!

them women's arses wont ogle themselves you know!

the matter is in hand (so to speak 🙂

Distinct lack of decent T&A on boggies pics these days, bring back Jane!

Distinct lack of decent T&A on boggies pics these days, bring back Jane!

Jane has moved away 🙁 I can only shoot the talent we get...
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I hope you're ok Simon, and that it's a harmless occasional anomaly.

and that it's a harmless occasional anomaly.

well, this was the 2nd episode, and a lot worse than the first, but I just found it funny 🙂 Stuff happens, then you die!

I remember when one of my friends had a proper turn and collapsed at home for no apparent reason. The doctor who treated him in the hospital said 7 out of 10 people have a funny one at some point in their lives. And thinking about it, pretty much everyone I know has had some kind of funny turn.

I've not obviously. I'm a singlespeeder.

I'm a singlespeeder.

so it's more of a permanent condition ?

The term is chronic Simon... 😉

I had a bout of funny turns, one was soooo funny I had to spend a night in hospital..Ha ha

Eat more was pretty much the advice I was given as well.

I'd say don't be complacent, and make sure you keep on at the doctors. Not to be morbid [cue morbidity] my dad starting having slight tremors and numbness in his right hand - turned out it was a brain tumour. It started being a very occasional thing, but kept on increasing in frequency and severity before he got it checked out.

No sudden death though, he lasted over 15 years with it, mostly with good health - didn't need chemo or radiotherapy until the last couple of years.

I'd say don't be complacent, and make sure you keep on at the doctors

when I looked at the NHS site on TIAs the advice was pretty much my normal lifestyle 🙂 However I think I shall appreciate the weekend's biking with an extra edge!

I had a turn a few years ago, was getting ready to go to the gym one evening at home, and suddenly couldnt balance and had to lie on the floor. It was the strangest thing. Crawled to my bed and climbed up, and when my GF came home about 15 minutes later, she sh*t herself as my speech was slurred and my mouth was drooping, numb down one side too! What was really weird was that I felt normal other than I couldnt remember the name of things or her! I knew the lamp beside the bed was a lamp just didnt know the name for it. Totally weird. She called NHS24 and they said to get me to hospital ASAP. Went there, but by the time I got there, it was getting better and I just felt really sick, and exhausted. Took me about a week to feel totally normal again. Went to to specialists etc, and it turns out it was a Haemoplegic Migraine, which gives all the symptoms of a brain haemmorage, but is obviously temporary.

Havent had anything like it since

Hi Simon

With all the usual caveats about medical advice on a bike forum

And not wanting to add to your understandable anxiety

But you might want to get your medical advisors to rule out MS (multiple sclerosis)

It goes under a number of other names these days, but pins-and-needles and numbness are prominent indicators for early onset of this condition

No doubt it will turn out - as usual for those of us of relatively advanced years - to be just another of those interesting temporary conditions our body turns up to remind us not to get cocky about our longevity, however fit we may feel.

Hoping for something utterly trivial!

Good grief, some people are doom and gloom 🙄 The amount of time you spend 'typing away' it could well be something as simple as compressing a nerve or a just high speed 'anking accident.

Had a 'funny turn' about 15 years ago - for no apparent reason my brain would not communicate with my mouth and sentences came out with the correct words but in entirely random order. Went for a walk for 1/2 hour and returned to normal. Very weird.

Good luck with the tests

Had various similar episodes - one turned out to be a radial nerve palsy (no right arm for a year).

More recently, odd vibrations in my chest - felt like a mobile phone constantly ringing in a breast pocket - had the full gamut of blood tests, MRI etc - all clear thank the Lord / Buddah / Spaghetti monster.

So 50% chance you're fine 🙂

a just high speed 'anking accident.

For most of us, this isn't a credible explanation

But I suppose if you choose to call yourself "woody", "high speed 'anking" sort of defines you

For most of us, this isn't a credible explanation

No it's someone called "Woody" we're talking about

How anyone in a post-porn world can call himself "Woody" beggars belief. Do you have a "Fluffer"?

Is that an offer ?

Very surprised any Scotch porn artist admits to needing to recruit a fluffer

You're a trier Eldridge, I'll give you that......but I'm not going to bite 8)

I'm not going to bite

You can be my fluffer any day

😯

i remember you from the days of old, simon. sorry to hear you're having these worries.

whatever the outcome - hopefully nothing more than a few nerve issues - i'm sure this gives you a new perspective on life 'n' stuff. nothing like peering into the abyss to give you a greater appreciation of what you can so easily lose.

if you turn out to be severely time-limited, come out to Viet Nam and i'll show you a few trails around Da Lat which will add some focus to your remaining days 🙂

best wishes with this,

ro.

Ok, being realistic about this from the minimal information you've posted:
-I wouldn't say it's a nerve damage as it's affected both arm and leg, and came on rapidly without any obvious trauma, and resolved as quickly.
- MS... again unlikely in view of more obvious diagoisis...
- brain tumour symptoms come on slowly and don't really pass.
- [b]I'd say you had a TIA to be honest.[/b]

Visit GP for referral to TIA clinic for further investigations.
I'd start taking 75mg aspirin daily to lower risk of further ones....

DrP

DrP
Re TIA - I thought that a possibility initially (and as you say very limited info) but doesn't explain the rapid recovery followed by return of symptoms after jumping up and down, unless, of course, it was followed immediately by another. SFB mentions low BP, I wonder if the opposite is true ?

barnes.......mtfu you soft old hobbit 😉

Tingling and numbness down one arm or leg, or more disturbingly half your face, can be a symptom of migraine.

Stop sitting on your right arm and use your left hand instead! 😆

went to the doc recently, have had a bit of a cough for a month or or 3or 4.
Doc says "what can I do for you today"
Me " I have had this cough etc"
doc "and what would you like the [i]outcome[/i] to be? "
He increase my asthma meds even tho I told him my peak flo was OK, I could swim, bike and go to the gym without using my inhaler with a "we will try this first"

Is this the new bedside manners/cliche [i]outcome[/i]

Got up and walked out. Seriously considering moving practice

Hope you get a resolution SFB..gtws

Surely if the doctor asks "what would you like the outcome to be?" you either say "getting better" if that is what you want or "signed off sick for a bit as I have some decorating/riding/loafing to do" if that is what you want. Hate it when people use unnecessary bollox words but just ignoring them and carrying merrily on my way seems to work just fine 🙂

p.s. when you say you got up and walked out, after he told you what he was going to do and wanted you to do, what would you normally do at that point?

Parhaps you're being treated for cough variant asthma???

I fully appreciate you all have your own medical beliefs/ideas, but do remember that the majority of doctors will know more than you about medical conditions, and the most obvious reason for something may not be the actual reason (classic case in point here - increasing asthma meds for cough variant asthma, not just wheeze...)

DrP

Or maybe you were just sitting funny, and hadn't noticed how much time had passed. Sometimes things go a bit adrift for me and then I realise that I have been working on a really long document and have moved only my fingers and eyes for a couple of hours and that my bum and neck have gone to sleep! Or some kind of RSI?

I really hope it is inconsequential.

Just reminded myself of one of my favourite gags:

"I'd like to die like my father, peacefully in my sleep... instead of screaming in terror, like his passengers..."

(N0, not saying you're going to die Simon!)

(N0, not saying you're going to die Simon!)

surely he is going to die at some point?

Well, yes, 100% of people die. Actually, that should be 100% of [u]all [/u]people die, otherwise it sounds as though there is an option for only part of you to die, but then, philosophically speaking, perhaps it is possible for only part of you to die (heart?).

i know a lot of people who seem to have died but they've just not stopped breathing yet

Yes, know what you mean

Simon who?

[b][u]SFB don't go riding tomorrow or until you get to the bottom of this. PLEASE.[/u] [/b]

It could just be nerve damage/pinched etc at a junction but it could also be a very minor stroke.

There was a lad on here a few years back who keeled over and passed a way od a heart attack on a ride.

sorry to hear you're having these worries.

I'm not in the least worried 🙂

- I'd say you had a TIA to be honest.
Visit GP for referral to TIA clinic for further investigations.

done that. I heard the clinic recommend aspirin but the doc said he wasn't willing to prescribe it till after I'd been scanned, and the consultant didn't suggest it. Presumably a tumour would have showed up on the CT scan unless it's still tiny ?

Or maybe you were just sitting funny, and hadn't noticed how much time had passed

no, this wasn't like that at all. I rarely sit still for long and often get up to gawp out the window at the canal and clouds etc

SFB don't go riding tomorrow or until you get to the bottom of this. PLEASE.

Too late! did 16 miles of exhaustion and excitement round Dunnerdale today 🙂 AFAIK, there's no connection between physical activity and stroke, or between stroke and heart attack. I specifically asked the consultant if I could go and as normal and he said yes, and he knew I'd ridden the evening after the incident 🙂 Tomorrow it's The Calf :o)

Thought stroke was typically left side - or am I imagining that?

Sounds worth getting checked out whatever - some of my favourite arguments on here have been with you SfB, so don't quit on us now.

Thought stroke was typically left side - or am I imagining that?

I think the left arm is associated with referred pain from the heart - nothing to do with stroke, which can affect any part of the brain - it's when the blood supply is interrupted and part of the brain dies.

some of my favourite arguments on here have been with you SfB, so don't quit on us now.

I shall do my best - although that appears to be nothing more than I'm already doing 🙂

explains some of your night photos 😉

it does ?

The thing is - a TIA (by definition, a focal neurological deficit lasting less than 24hrs) is unlikely to show up on a CT scan. The scan is to rule out a minor bleed. The diagnosis is generally a clinical one (i.e based on the story you tell us!), and as such you will probably be told you had one, which you probably did.

There are associations between strokes and heart attacks, as they generally fall under the category 'vascular diseases', and further prevention (statins, reducing BP etc) is based on similar treatments.

Glad you're better though, and hope it gets sorted.

DrP

SFB, please don't listen to a real Doctor like DrP. Listen to internet Doctors like me.

I have read your symptoms and had looked at the first hit on google and I prescribe a dose of Parsley.

We know best 8)

I prescribe a dose of Parsley.

I always shove that to the side of my plate - it tastes ghastly 🙁 Worse than celery and I never eat that either, since a friend pointed it it tastes like engine oil 🙂

I'm not in the least worried

Yes you are. People don't go through the tests you describe unless they're worried. Don't be an ass about this simon, it demeans those of us who cared enough about you to offer something supportive.

Simon,

Been there, similar situation about 11 years ago. Arrived at work noticed that my spatial awareness was shot, after reversing the job car into one of the other job cars, went up to the office speaking to my colleague at the time, he could not understand what I was saying all slurred. I knew what I wanted to say but it would not come out clearly. I had tingling in my hands which spread up and along my arms, subdued hearing and my breathing was shot. Not pleasant. Work took me to the hospital had lots of scans as you have had and was told that I would get a result after seeing a consultant in about six months! Told it was not advisable to drive so I voluntarily gave up my licence. (Thank God for my bike!) I went to see the NHS consultant privately which meant I got to see him within a month. The upshoot for me was that I was suffering from Stress Induced Migraines, these dont always cause pain but can cause all or some of the symptoms that I had been suffering from and yours by the sound of it. It may be worth exploring that with your Drs as a possibility.

Good luck

Simon (MUTDs)

Yes you are. People don't go through the tests you describe unless they're worried

Uh, you know better what I think that I do ? I went to the doctor to see if there was anything wrong that could be fixed. If I die today or tomorrow that's OK with me, though I don't want it to happen. I've always been like this.

it demeans those of us who cared enough about you to offer something supportive.

sorry, I'm not buying that. The remarks of anonymous strangers do not have any claim on me, or give them a right to demand a form of response to suit them. I thought the attack was funny while it was happening, and I was slightly excited to see what would happen - but nothing much seemed to come of it.

Stress Induced Migraines

thanks for that, but I don't go in for stress, so it's unlikely to be a factor 🙂

I think that was a fine robust response. But it won't stop me liking you, or wishing you all the best 🙂

sfb - get yer coat, you've pulled.

thanks for that, but I don't go in for stress, so it's unlikely to be a factor

So how do you manage to go on bike rides then ? How do you manage to work ? How do you manage to do any of the things which require clear goals ?

💡 I don't think you really understand what "stress" is.

[i]" Stress is the way that you feel when pressure is placed on you.

A little bit of pressure can be productive, give you motivation, and help you to perform better at something.

When faced with a situation that makes you stressed, your body releases chemicals, including cortisol, adrenaline and noradrenaline. These invoke the 'fight or flight' feelings that help us to deal with the situation.

If the chemicals that are released during stressful situations accumulate from not being used, their effects are felt by the body. A build-up of adrenaline and noradrenaline increases blood pressure, heart rate, and the amount that you sweat. Cortisol prevents your immune system from functioning properly, as well as releasing fat and sugar into your blood stream."[/i]

I always shove that to the side of my plate - it tastes ghastly

Sigh. If I had a penny for every patient who ignores my advice.

thanks for that, but I don't go in for stress, so it's unlikely to be a factor

Me neither until the doc told me that my headaches, more like a sudden paralysing pain, were stress induced.

I guess you have everything under control, good luck. 😆

But it won't stop me liking you, or wishing you all the best

and it wasn't intended to - I was just defending my right to my own opinions and attitudes 🙂

So how do you manage to go on bike rides then ? How do you manage to work ? How do you manage to do any of the things which require clear goals ?

I think there's a clear difference between minor anxiety and stress. No anxiety at all would make for a dull, featureless life - the trick is to keep it within bounds 🙂 And I have a feeling the stress encountered during riding is dispersed naturally and healthily through action

Simon

I dont do stress either 😆 Should have been clearer, meant stress as in physical not giving myself enough time to recover between excercise, commuting and work.

Simon

meant stress as in physical not giving myself enough time to recover between excercise

oh I see! No chance of that with me - I'm extremely lazy :o) I always use the minimum effort required to achieve anything.