I'd never heard of him until this thread popped up. The Behind the Bastards podcast is now running a couple of episodes about him (and his ideology).
I’m not entirely convinced that Romanian prison showers operate on 1-on-1 ‘fair fight’ rules.
Hopefully it'll be like Shawshank redemption. The more you struggle the more they like it.
That article ^ turned my stomach...... but this bit raised a slight suggestion of a smirk:
Daria, who's now at university in the UK, is the daughter of a prominent Romanian politician
Hopefully it’ll be like Shawshank redemption. The more you struggle the more they like it.
Hopefully people will stop joking about rape.
I suppose it is playing to peoples sense of karma suggesting that a rapey man gets raped.
I suppose it is playing to peoples sense of karma suggesting that a rapey man gets raped.
Assuming he's guilty (we don't know that) two wrongs don't make a right. Considering the subject matter, fantasising about prison rape is pretty sick IMO.
Assuming he’s guilty (we don’t know that) two wrongs don’t make a right. Considering the subject matter, fantasising about prison rape is pretty sick IMO.
On an intellectual level, I agree.
And yet for some reason I can't seem to give a shit. Weird.
And yet for some reason I can’t seem to give a shit. Weird.
I agree that fantasising about rape is weird.
That's the thing about rights: they extend to people we don't like.
Assuming he’s guilty
Based on the fact that he has been arrested, charged, held on extended remand, and had all his assets seized, I am assuming that there is considerable evidence against Andrew Tate. Since I won't be on the Romanian jury considering his case, and because my burden of proof does not need to be particularly high, I am prepared to believe that his is in all probability guilty.
Plus what is undisputed, even by Andrew Tate himself, is that he is a self-proclaimed misogynist.
Personally I would not express satisfaction at the thought of Tate being the victim of the very same crime which he is most likely guilty of, but I wouldn't suggest those that do are "fantasising about prison rape" or think rape is funny.
I do derive a certain amount of satisfaction though that the self-proclaimed misogynist is in what undoubtedly must be the rather masculine environment of a Romanian jail.
but I wouldn’t suggest those that do are “fantasising about prison rape” or think rape is funny.
Comments on this thread about prison showers etc are precisely that.
We'll have to disagree on that one.
I think those photographs of Nigel Farage walking away from a plane crash are hilarious. Do I think plane crashes are funny? No not really.
Edit: I particularly liked the photo of Nigel Farage when he was still entangled in the wreckage of the plane.
I admire how whoever took the photographs had presence of mind to take them before considering helping him.
he's made a right ol' bed to sleep in 🙂 , last place you want to go after boasting about your wealth (then having it siezed with all that protection he'll have to pay for).
That’s the thing about rights: they extend to people we don’t like.
True. Although I'm not sure anyone has the right not have people fantasise about random people raping them in prison.
I mean, I get why you said fantasise but do you honestly reckon people are sitting here fapping themselves silly while reading this thread? Is that what you're fantasising about as you scold the naughty contributors to this thread?
Actually, don't answer that, I don't want to know.
I dunno, perhaps we've all been reading about the Met too much and have become desensitised to sexual violence and the only way to cope with the overload is to make jokes about a huge contributor to this horrifically misogynistic world we've found ourselves living in with his stupid wee face screwed up in agony as he services his 16th client that day for his new owner.
True. Although I’m not sure anyone has the right not have people fantasise about random people raping them in prison.
No-one has said otherwise.
I mean, I get why you said fantasise but do you honestly reckon people are sitting here fapping themselves silly while reading this thread? Is that what you’re fantasising about as you scold the naughty contributors to this thread?
Interesting extrapolation that I think says much more about you than me.
Actually, don’s answer that, I don’t want to know.
If you didn't want me to answer, you would've deleted the question.
Hopefully people will stop joking about rape.
is a good point
Interesting extrapolation that I think says much more about you than me.
Are you asking if I'm sitting here fantasising about you fantasising about other posters fantasising about Andrew Tate getting raped?
I'll never tell *Nudge winky emoji strawberry emoji orange emoji
Are you asking if I’m sitting here fantasising about you fantasising about other posters fantasising about Andrew Tate getting raped?
No.
If he suffered from a tragic accident whilst awaiting sentencing then I’d give precisely zero ****s
I dunno, perhaps we’ve all been reading about the Met
Yeah I was going to make a joke about Tate and the met but decided against it as bad taste.
When I was younger would have enjoyed the just deserts but these days... Life isn't that simple anymore, nothing is. Wishing rape on someone who raped, doesn't work, satisfies nothing, achieves nothing, it's a worthless pastime.
I get why you said fantasise but do you honestly reckon people are sitting here fapping themselves silly while reading this thread?
like perversions, not all fantasies are sexual
They probably are when the fantasies involve rape. As in "fantasising about prison rape”.
But nevertheless a good point, I regularly fantasize about hot buttered toast, especially on the final leg of a cold bike ride.
In a completely non-sexual way of course.
Anyone considered that inmates might identify with him or even consider him a role model and that he becomes popular?
Yep likely if he does go to prison. My fear is that he gets off and becomes even bigger.
My fear is that he gets off and becomes even bigger.
Isn't that what he's been doing for years?
They probably are when the fantasies involve rape. As in “fantasising about prison rape”.
probably not actually; rape has hardly anything to do with sex, it’s all about power, I suspect especially so in the case of prison rape. Subjugation, control and power are the names or the game there.
If he suffered from a tragic accident whilst awaiting sentencing then I’d give precisely zero ****
Hold your horses he’s not been found guilty of anything yet !!!
Isn’t that what he’s been doing for years?
Yep..
I do like the usual defence thou that he’s just portraying a social media character and isn’t like it in real life.
The whole operating in Romania raises a red flag for me, I think he’s overestimated how much he could get away with/buy himself out of or not 🙁
Hold your horses he’s not been found guilty of anything yet !!!
Even if he's never touched a woman inappropriately in his life, based on the fact he's set up a Rape Culture University and fostered violently misogynistic attitudes in thousands of men across the world, I would give zero shits if he wound up dead tomorrow.
rape has hardly anything to do with sex
Except for the bit that involves sex. Rape is always classed as a sex crime. Sounds daft to ignore the sexual nature of rape.
Even if he’s never touched a woman inappropriately in his life, based on the fact he’s set up a Rape Culture University and fostered violently misogynistic attitudes in thousands of men across the world, I would give zero shits if he wound up dead tomorrow.
I don’t disagree and we should be wondering why we allow this and how it has been allowed to continue.
If his clogs were popped they would soon be refilled by another grifter.
It seems my flippant comment has upset a few.
I appreciate it's difficult to judge intended tone on forums sometimes... However being accused of fantasising about rape is one hell of a stretch of the imagination.
They probably are when the fantasies involve rape. As in “fantasising about prison rape”.
i think to be a sexual fantasy would need to sexually arouse the person having the fantasy, not just be a fantasy where someone is involved in a sex act.
A fair point. Only I have absolutely no idea if anyone is “fantasising about prison rape”, or if they are, whether it's turning them on.
I haven't accused anyone of fantasing about anything so I haven't given it much thought.
Edit: I do agree with mattyfez's comment though:
However being accused of fantasising about rape is one hell of a stretch of the imagination.
However inappropriate mattyfez's comment might have been it's really stretching it to suggest that he is "fantasising" about rape.
Your fantasy about toast has really disturbed me Ernie. Will someone pass the bleach please. I cannot get it out of my mind 🙂
It seems my flippant comment has upset a few.
Indeed, and I’d be surprised if you weren’t equally surprised that it might. If you think that it’s difficult to measure the tone of someone’s post, then perhaps you might take a second to think about how a written post might be interpreted before you actually post it.
Also, maybe consider that while the forum is mostly male, there might be the odd female who reads your post and finds it either offensive in general, or even worse triggering due to personal experience, be that experience of rape itself or or other sexual assault. And further removed, it may be read by a man who has a sister, partner, wife, daughter or mother who has been subjected to some kind of assault. It may even be being read by a male who’s been raped or sexually assaulted in some way. You’re aware that there are men in prison for relatively minor crimes who are subjected to sexual assault - does their struggle merit the jocular reference?
Look, not having a go*, but just have a think before you post something. A contrite withdrawal of the comment (we’ve all hit “post” before thinking at some point) would sound better than the “sorry if you’re offended” approach used by so many these days.
*I’ve just read back and indeed, it does sound like I’m having a go, but really, I’m just asking to have a think about what one writes.
I will confess I nearly wrote a post that would have been similar to mattyfez's post. Just managed to stop in time
For you TJ
However being accused of fantasising about rape is one hell of a stretch of the imagination.
This is what you said:
Hopefully it’ll be like Shawshank redemption. The more you struggle the more they like it.
No imagination required.
No imagination required
Yeah it might have been an inappropriate comment but then imo so is the use of the word "fantasising".
I am hoping that Nadhim Zahawi will be forced to resign in the next couple of days. Would it be appropriate to say that I am having fantasies about it?
I can assure you that I am not.
Yeah it might have been an inappropriate comment but then imo so is the use of the word “fantasising”.
To fantasise is to imagine something you would like to happen.
I am hoping that Nadhim Zahawi will be forced to resign in the next couple of days. Would it be appropriate to say that I am having fantasies about it?
Yes.
Well this has taken a turn. You can hope something without giving it any thought whatsoever. A fleeting thought can be just that and not fantasising. The latter would take some effort.
To fantasise is to imagine something you would like to happen.
True, but you have to admit, in common usage fantasise normally has sexual connotations. Much of Tate's success came from encouraging young men to act on their violent sexual fantasies.
I think you wanted to score points by linking the obvious payback people want to see inflicted on Tate to sexual fantasies.
You wanted to seem like the bigger man by ridiculing others for sitting in their rooms furiously masturbating to the image of Tate's stupid wee face screwed up in agony as he was roughly ridden while his new prison daddy looked on approvingly.
The simple fact is, if you rape someone there is a 99.75% chance that you are going to get away with it (and that's not even an exaggeration).
So when it looks like one of these scumbags is actually going to get convicted, they tend to become the focus of all our frustration that 400 other scumbags will never see the inside of a cell.
Punishing a single scumbag 400 times as badly does nothing for society but 'fantasising' about it makes people feel slightly less shit about the ****ed up state of our world for a minute.
Overall, hoping Tate has the roughest most painful time possible in prison (sexual or otherwise) is so far down my list of things I give a shit about it makes me deeply suspicious of where someone who does brings it up's sympathies actually lie.
To fantasise is to imagine something you would like to happen.
Then it seems I'm fantisising that, should he be found guilty, he have a really bad time in jail, and I make no apology for wishing ill of a rapey grifter.
You wanted to seem like the bigger man by ridiculing others for sitting in their rooms furiously masturbating to the image of Tate’s stupid wee face screwed up in agony as he was roughly ridden while his new prison daddy looked on approvingly.
Again, your comment says much more about you than it does about me. But thank you for proving my point about fantasies.
I see we've reached the point where you and others are denying dictionary definitions to defend your position. It's beyond pathetic.
