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[Closed] Has STW suddenly become a lot more polarised?

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Seriously - who cares? This is the internet.

It's a bike forum. It's purpose is to enable people to communicate and perhaps to actually (shock horror) meet up in 'Real Life' and go for bike rides and stuff. That's what I've used it for, anyway. Met loads of decent folk off here. Hope to meet loads more. I like to look at everyone on here as a potential riding buddy, mate, friend. That's the whole point of the forum, no?

But thing is, when some folk express views that you really aren't ever going to get along with, are you going to get along with the person? I'm happy enough to spend time with folk I don't necessarily agree with about everything (as in, like, 'Real Life'...), but I woon't really want to be hanging about with someone who I felt was a properly narrow-minded bigot, as some on here have clearly proven themselves to be.


 
Posted : 10/08/2011 9:43 pm
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TJ sorry i'm too busy picking my nose and helping Jamie scrape his eyeballs, far more interesting then having to read any of freds drivel again


 
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Oh, and by the way.

Fred
TJ
Hora
SBZ
Stoner
theprawn(god rest his soul)
etc...

All people who make this forum what it is. If we had a forum that was all about rides/kit etc. , it would bore the tits off of me.

Keep up the good work lads (and lassie).


 
Posted : 10/08/2011 9:44 pm
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molgrips.............only thing is, is that they are not.....they just dont agree with him.

this thread will end by fred reporting someone to the mods for something or other.
most of the threads he starts like this usually do.


 
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I think he is disagreeing with people who are racist or thick etc. That seems entirely reasonable as a concept.

trouble is, while racism may be a definable concept on which many people agree, 'being thick' is purely subjective and more than slightly insulting.

Is Fred a thickist ??


 
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Is that an admission you can't houns? really - if yo are going to make accusations you should be prepared to defend them


 
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I woon't really want to be hanging about with someone who I felt was a properly narrow-minded bigot, as some on here have clearly proven themselves to be.

So, again, someone who has an "onion you doon't agree wiv" is a narrow minded bigot, are they?

Well, once again, when it comes to being narrow minded....

Dear Kettle, you are black*. Love, Pot.

*Or is that racist?


 
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Fred i see you as a sad pathetic little troll with nothing better to do in his life to drag this once great, fun forum to your level. I wonder how you coped before you found stw?

Possibly a little bit better than you, if this is the kind of resentment you feel for someone you've only ever encountered online....


 
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It's a bike forum. It's purpose is to enable people to communicate and perhaps to actually (shock horror) meet up in 'Real Life' and go for bike rides and stuff. That's what I've used it for, anyway. Met loads of decent folk off here. Hope to meet loads more. I like to look at everyone on here as a potential riding buddy, mate, friend. That's the whole point of the forum, no?

That is certainly not the way you approached the forum under your previous or at least your first username(s).


 
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Teej, this may well be one of those 'just walk away' moments ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
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That is certainly not the way you approached it under your previous or at least your first username(s).

With multiple Bombers!


 
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and soggy shoes


 
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As a relative newbie, who is Fred?


 
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I could class someone who is thick as someone who regularly gets banned from an internet forum for breaking the rules on numerous occasions, then because they are too stupid to take responsibility for their actions, threaten to sue the owners of said forum for banning them


 
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Fair enough hilldodger point well and truly made I think

CFH the two statments are not the same. he does not say

o, someone who has an "onion you doon't agree wiv" is a narrow minded bigot, are they


 
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Is that an admission you can't houns? really - if yo are going to make accusations you should be prepared to defend them

Where has he admitted he can't Tandem?


 
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I think he is disagreeing with people who are racist or thick etc. That seems entirely reasonable as a concept.

...but if you label someone racist or thick purely because you do not agree with them, regardless if they actually are or not, then that is highly unreasonable.


 
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So, again, someone who has an "onion" you doon't agree wiv is a narrow minded bigot, are they?

Erm once again, you're misinterpreting what I'm actually saying...

[i]Some[/i] people on here have proven themselves to be bigots. I'm not going to agree with someone I find bigoted, as bigotry is something I find abhorrent.


 
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As a relative newbie, who is Fred?

One of elfins many previous on line persona, all of whom ended up with permanent bans


 
Posted : 10/08/2011 9:50 pm
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๐Ÿ˜†


 
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Ben - elfandsafety is fred - his previous persona on here


 
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It's a bike forum. It's purpose is to enable people to communicate and perhaps to actually (shock horror) meet up in 'Real Life' and go for bike rides and stuff. That's what I've used it for, anyway. Met loads of decent folk off here. Hope to meet loads more. I like to look at everyone on here as a potential riding buddy, mate, friend. That's the whole point of the forum, no?

But thing is, when some folk express views that you really aren't ever going to get along with, are you going to get along with the person? I'm happy enough to spend time with folk I don't necessarily agree with about everything (as in, like, 'Real Life'...), but I woon't really want to be hanging about with someone who I felt was a properly narrow-minded bigot, as some on here have clearly proven themselves to be.

I agree completely with that, although it does rather need the words [i]in my opinion[/i] tagged onto the end of the last sentence.


 
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Ah bless, tj and fred making things up in their own minds again


 
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Tandem, where did houns admit anything? (2)


 
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[i]A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs[/i]*

Sound familiar, Fred?

*From wiki, natch


 
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Fair enough hilldodger point well and truly made I think

Yeah, enjoy the rest of the evening in peace TJ ๐Ÿ˜€


 
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(4 to go)


 
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I could class someone who is thick as someone who regularly gets banned from an internet forum for breaking the rules on numerous occasions, then because they are too stupid to take responsibility for their actions, threaten to sue the owners of said forum for banning them

LOL - wtf? Seriously? This happened?


 
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See now this is the bit of STW that is crap.

We've all had a good argue and chinwag about recent events and it's been pretty interesting and lots of very different opinions have been expressed. Now the actual news has died down the hangover kicks in and the nastiness and bitching starts in earnest.

BORING. can anyone actually be arsed to start an online fight right now? I'd rather do and think some positive stuff.


 
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Where houns? Did Fred say what you claimed he did? If so where? or are you unable to say where because he did not.


 
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Ah bless, tj and fred making things up in their own minds again

This forum is all they have, let them have their moment(s) and try and ignore.


 
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Agrees with yossarian...


 
Posted : 10/08/2011 9:54 pm
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teej let it go man ffs.
take the mrs to bed or something............ ๐Ÿ˜€


 
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Tandem - where did he admit anything? Are you able to answer this or not? (3)


 
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LOL - wtf? Seriously? This happened?

ask elf how many bans he has had and how many user names he's been through


 
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This is forum is all they have

Ouch. Very ouch.

But also, ๐Ÿ˜†


 
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TJ my life is far more important than going through crap on this forum, evidently yours isn't so I'll let you go through everyone of his posts and provide evidence to prove me wrong


 
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What's that saying that goes something like "it takes two to argue, but you can look stupid all on your own"


 
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TJ stop being a dick. We all know what fred's trying to say.

"if your politics are not my politics, you are a lesser man than I"

Its the last sanctuary of the arrogant left. Hope you're both comfortable there.


I dont think he is I think he is saying that some extremists views are unacceptable. They are racist , hateful and their opinions are borne out of emotive responses and a bit of a knee jerk reaction etc.
You are misrepresenting what he says for your ends and counting each time you are challenged on it. All major parties find extremists views unacceptbale it is not a lefty thing..do you want some quotes from Dave? No major politician would share a platform with someone speaking like some posters on here for example. It unites "proper" politicians whatever party they represent.

These threads are rather sad navel gazing tbh


 
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Arhhh Kingtut spoil sport, i'm enjoying playing with them...I'm making their evenings


 
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kingtut............so what you doing on here........ ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
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Interesting that those accusing me of 'insulting' them have used this as an opportunity to attempt to insult me.

If anyone is actually genuinely interested in a sensible discussion free of insults and nonsense, I'm all ears. ๐Ÿ™‚

Got to be honest; I do find the responses from certain individuals so utterly predictable,. Why not try to surprise me, eh? You never know, you might surprise yourself....


 
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"if this is the kind of resentment you feel for someone you've only ever encountered online.... "

But he's only ever interacted with you online so he can't really change the way he feels about you other than how he does, can he?


 
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I dont think he is I think he is saying that some extremists views are unacceptable. They are racist

Show me one racist post in the past three days!


 
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I'm enjoying playing with them...I'm making their evenings

Course you are ๐Ÿ™„


 
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