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Its a shame really. Since I was a kid I can remember going there every so often for Fish & Chips, and the ques used to be 30 minutes or so to get a table. OK you never quite knew why you were going there just for fish & chips, but there was some thing special about the place.

Just shows how the corporate world can screw up a good local business. Ever since it became a chain it lost its quality and uniqueness and people stopped going 🙁

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-15949876

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Posted : 30/11/2011 9:19 am
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Heard it on the radio, but once a business is bought and run on pure cash terms...


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 9:27 am
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Just shows how the corporate world can screw up a good local business.

Because one branch closed?


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 9:34 am
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corporate world can screw up a good local business.

yes - THE most famous local business in Guiseley/Menston; potentially West Yorkshire.


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 9:47 am
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corporate world can screw up a good local business.
yes - THE most famous local business in Guiseley/Menston; potentially West Yorkshire.

Is that branch just up the road from Otley?

Think I went there once.

Agreed corporate world screws everything up, happening in my world right now.


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 9:57 am
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The most overrated dining experience in the North West?

To see people lining up to wait in the rain to pay nearly £20 for 2 (unspecified) fish and chips is to look into the hopelessness of the human condition.

Market forces. If you can't make a business work at thise prices, something is terribly worng.


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 10:00 am
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I love fish and chips. Some fantastic ones in WYorks. Theres a Harry Ramsdens within a mile of my house. I've never ever been to a Harry Ramsdens, never will.

They just don't appeal. I'll stick to my indie fishy LBS 8)


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 10:05 am
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North WEST???!?!

How dare you sir!

I live near and TBH there are better chip shops in Guiseley. It's a shame but I think its time has come


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 10:11 am
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Only been to one, which must have been post corporate takeover cos it was crap and expensive..Mc'harry Ramsdens it should have been called


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 10:13 am
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Thats how imagine them to be 'McRamsdens'.


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 10:15 am
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Is only one shop 🙄


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 10:16 am
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I remember going as a kid too. I also once worked the pans there as I worked for the same company and they were short-staffed.


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 10:25 am
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flip its the Beeb. The journalists/editors etc there are being very political of late. BBC24 is wall to wall with recession and double-dip to sink the coalition/countries recovery.

This is just one shop but it could add and hint to more to add to their agenda..


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 10:26 am
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flip its the Beeb. The journalists/editors etc there are being very political of late. BBC24 is wall to wall with recession and double-dip to sink the coalition/countries recovery.

Cause and effect? Bit harsh to shoot the messenger, the conservatives sink the country's recovery and the BBC report on it. Anyone remember the heady days of 2010 when we were actualy growing and unemployment was falling? This must be at least the third "double dip" since then. How long before Osborne admits that his very short sharp cuts are having a very short term effect of crippling the economy and he can't keep blameing everything else for his policies.

Back on topic, the shop down by the pier in Saltburn does the best fish and chips 🙂


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 10:40 am
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Cause and effect?
There is ALOT of news out there. Beeb24 is on a constant loop though and constantly saying the word recession..just before Christmas - the most important trading time for alot of retailers etc. Shake consumer confidence wont it?

How am I going to spend my £7 profit then? 😥


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 10:52 am
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saw harry ramsden himself at guisley restaurnt wen i was a bairn,also my first arab!(who was wif his bunch of wifes all havn fish/chips.....


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 10:54 am
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Is only one shop

The point is that it's the original Harry Ramsden's shop that's being closed. So, the history is completely lost and it just becomes another chain, which probably happened at some point years ago anyway, in reality.
It's quite a big plot, based on what's in the immediate area and the demographics, it wouldn't surprise me if some Supermarket chain wasn't making an offer a venture capital business man type couldn't refuse. They're not usually too weepy about history and reminiscing, when money's being waved in their faces. It'll be interesting to see what's there in a years time.


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 11:34 am
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I used to go with my Grandma ~30 years ago to the original shop. It resembled a slightly up-market motorway cafe and was overpriced even then and the food was nothing special.
Then they sued Harry Ramadan's over the road which showed a major lack of sense of humour and unwillingness to compete.

The Magpie in Whitby, now there's a chippy to get excited about.


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 11:43 am
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Ah, Bless the Northerners with their itchy woolen socks.

We have chains of bike shops, they have chains of chip shops. 😀

Harry Ramsdens in Brighton was where I had one of the most disappointing fish'n'chips I've had in a long time. 🙁

Had some lovely fish'n'chips in a cafe in Ilkley mind. Fantastic. And from a cafe in the centre of Bradford.


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 11:50 am
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The point is that it's the original Harry Ramsden's shop that's being closed...

So why can it not reopen as an independent? Barry Ramsdens!

Get rid of all the 'corporate' claptrap and make it a real chippy once more. Unless it isn't really viable.


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 11:52 am
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Its going to become an Aldi apparently


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 11:53 am
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Sometimes big business just don't get it & would care less if they did

I remember when they [Heineken, I think] moved the production of Newcastle Brown ale from the City Brewery to Gateshead - ****ing Gateshead! they may as well have moved it to Sunderland

And what plank thought you could brew the 'Cream of Manchester' anywhere else other than Strangeways?


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 11:53 am
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Cream of Manchester my arse..dishwater of strangeways nick is more like it...
Orrible stuff... 😕 And yes..I'm a manc..an it's still crap!!!


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 11:58 am
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Cream of Manchester my arse.

I think you missed the point that that was the strap line for all the ads

but yeah, crap indeed


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 12:00 pm
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Beeb24 is on a constant loop though and constantly saying the word recession..just before Christmas - the most important trading time for alot of retailers etc. Shake consumer confidence wont it?

Idiotic to blame the BBC. Didn't you hear Osborne's Autumn statement?


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 12:02 pm
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I haven't had a pint of Boddies since they moved from Strangeways. The first pint always used to smell of puke but the vast number that followed it were perfect. Happy days.


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 12:08 pm
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Wen't to Harry Ramsdens once as a treat, soggy pale batter, dry fish and chips that somehow managed to be cooked, but look raw.
My joint most disappointing eating experience with a pork pie from Harrods food hall.
I expected both to be fine examples of their type. Neither of them were even average to my taste.


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 12:12 pm
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They're not usually too weepy about history and reminiscing, when money's being waved in their faces.

Apparently neither was Old Harry.


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 12:13 pm
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Blacksheep isnt brewed in the Blacksheep brewery anymore.. Tetleys isnt brewed in Leeds anymore...


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 12:16 pm
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[i]Its going to become an Aldi apparently[/i]

At least you'll be able to get decent quality fish there then.


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 12:28 pm
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Blacksheep isnt brewed in the Blacksheep brewery anymore

Is it not? - where's it brewed now then?


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 12:35 pm
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Blacksheep isnt brewed in the Blacksheep brewery anymore

..and, horror of horrors, HP sauce isn't made in England any more.


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 12:40 pm
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It's not as if Blacksheep had much history behind it anyway - started in the 90s didn't it?

but I still thought it was brewed in Masham


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 12:43 pm
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Cream of Manchester

That's....

....just....

.....wrong. 😐


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 12:44 pm
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Sat in Harry Ramsdens guisley right now.

Wish I hadn't bothered to be honest ! Poor quality and overpriced.

Murgatroyds is better, and they aren't that good either really.

Will be better once Aldi build their supermarket here I reckon ?


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 2:37 pm
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Blacksheep isnt brewed in the Blacksheep brewery anymore.. Tetleys isnt brewed in Leeds anymore...

Nah, I've done the tour recently. You're maybe thinking of OP (same family, same village)?

Masham is great.


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 2:38 pm
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I went to the one in Bournemouth about 10 years ago. Quite liked it really but then I was given more to eat than I could manage - always a good sign for me 😉 I think it was an eating challenge with enough chips to feed a small Irish family.


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 2:43 pm
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You're maybe thinking of OP (same family, same village)?

You're maybe thinking of Theakston's, OP (Old Peculiar) being just one of their brews.


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 3:14 pm
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Yep sorry was Theakstons...


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 3:26 pm
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I ate there once whilst I lived in Leeds. It was never in the same league as the chippys in headingly Bryans and forget the name of the other one on North Lane that used to use propper dripping MMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 3:29 pm
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perhaps they lost their sole?


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 3:42 pm
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Old Peculier (and all the other brews) are still brewed in Masham.

[I]bottled[/I] somewhere else though. I did the brewery tour about 6 weeks ago


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 3:46 pm
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Stuff is brewed in Masham, and that goes localy only ie in to the Dales.

The rest is now brewed in Newcastle or some where by one of the big breweries.

Edit: Stand corrected now!

"The Carlisle brewery was closed in 1987, and brewing of some Theakston beers was transferred to Scottish & Newcastle's Tyne Brewery.

In 2004 the business returned to family ownership after being purchased back from Scottish & Newcastle by four Theakston brothers. Major development works at the Masham Brewery enabled the company to announce that brewing of Theakston Bitter would return to Masham in 2009.[3]"


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 4:04 pm
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Went for fish and chips at Murgatroyds in Yeadon earlier this year but couldn't get in as queue was out of the door, so drove down to Harry Ramsdens. Not been there for years and remembered the queues and ornate interior but found the place nearly empty and the building more faded glory than modern restaurant. Meal was OK and not too expensive, but not somewhere I would choose to go again. Interesting comparison between old fashioned Harry Ramsdens and modern day Murgatroyds and the relative demand for each bearing in mind they are only a couple of miles apart.


 
Posted : 30/11/2011 6:20 pm
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Best chippy in Leeds by a margin

http://www.theskyliner.co.uk/


 
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