Anyone remember how many people voted for Gordon Brown to be PM?
Well FWIW he's already less popular than Cameron, who was elected leader with a greater share of the membership's vote.
it's going to get worse: snap GE before Corbyn's binned.
Anyone remember how many people voted for Gordon Brown to be PM?
Well this guy has some strong views at the time
“They voted for Anthony Charles Lynton Blair to serve as their leader. They were at no stage invited to vote on whether Gordon Brown should be PM… They voted for Tony, and yet they now get Gordon, and a transition about as democratically proper as the transition from Claudius to Nero. It is a scandal. Why are we all conniving in this stitch-up? This is nothing less than a palace coup… with North Korean servility, the Labour Party has handed power over to the brooding Scottish power-maniac.”
“The extraordinary thing is that it looks as though he will now be in 10 Downing Street for three years, and without a mandate from the British people. No one elected Gordon Brown as Prime Minister…”
I wonder who could have said that?
Anyone hoping for a snap GE should think again.
With a constituency majority of 5,034 at the last election and facing a very concerted effort to unseat him there is no way he would risk it.
Self preservation is one of his few strengths
With a constituency majority of 5,034 at the last election and facing a very concerted effort to unseat him there is no way he would risk it.
bloody hell - you're right
I think the actual term is "declared income". But there's more to torys than just having money. we'd maybe not even be in this mess today had Nigel Farage's face fitted, unfortunately despite embracing the Thatcherite loadsamoney dream and most of the same views he didn't have the right school tie and so ended up contributing to brexit via UKIP.
92k (of a 160k membership) is not a "landslide" in my book and suggests a good chunk of the part ain't so enamoured with young Boris, still its not like torys ever turn on their leaders is it now...
There's always been a lot of working class conservatives, they like the simple messages Boris hurls out. People who work but still under estimate how dependant on the state they are. They think they're insulated but they will be hit really hard by a no deal Brexit.
Fair enough..they may not all be rich. But they are members of the Tory party, so I guarantee I am half right in my assessment of them.
You'd be surprised by how few bankers truly like the Tories at the moment, my missus works for a proper establishment, overflowing with old money, company - the majority of them cannot bring themselves to vote Tory, thought the austerity cuts went way too far but at the same time can't bring themselves to vote for Corbyn. They are people who would vote for New Labour or the Lib Dems if given the chance.
A lot of the black and white thinkers on here will consider those people scum though and Tories in all but name.
Ah well, we know what we have to look forward to
EDIT well you lot do, I'm off
Anyone hoping for a snap GE should think again.
With a constituency majority of 5,034 at the last election and facing a very concerted effort to unseat him there is no way he would risk it.
Self preservation is one of his few strengths
I don't think that follows. At the moment he's hamstrung. He might think his best bet is a snap election while he's in his honeymoon period is his best bet at getting this situation to some kind of conclusion.
If he loses his seat so what? It's not like he can do anything as things are, he might think he has little choice.
As it happens I don't think he will go for a snap election but there a case that says he might.
Ah well, we know what we have to look forward to
Yes,I feel like I'm stuck on a surreal bus journey.The bus has been driven by idiots but I don't have a licence so I can't drive it, I'm in their hands & I can't get off.
**** knows where the journey ends...
Sorry gents could you just remind why I know, deep in my bones, that BJ is a self serving toe rag.
I remember that he jump into the Brexit camp, despite being pro euro previously, and then backed down from the PM race because he realised he'd have to do the dirt work.... Guess that's actually two things he got right ... but that's the thing aye!? .... He got those things right for himself. Not for the good of the country.
Then there was a husting, the other, week where the lady "interviewer/chairperson" actually asked him, and I paraphrase ... "when have you ever put the country before yourself?" and his bumbling response was contemptible.... if you are on the fence about BJ, go looks this interview/question up... it's damning
So what other of his self serving "crimes?" have I missed?
I remember that he jump into the Brexit camp, despite being pro euro previously,
I get the impression that's an urban myth.
Boris is actually one of the earliest architects of the Brexit movement.
One of his first jobs in the late 80's was as the Brussels reporter for the Telegraph. He wrote in a style to appeal to "Middle Class, Middle Aged Middle England" and completely fabricated stories about the EU about banning Prawn Cocktail Crisps or daft things like that, he almost single handedly invented 'Euro Myths' designed to discredit the EU, or grossly and intentionally misreading directives, so Eu standards on Bananas not have "abnormal curvature" was misrepresented as "EU BANS BENT BANANAS".
His columns in the Torygraph set the foundation of a lot Euroskeptism amongst Tory Voters and members, after-all, whilst Thatcher liked to shout a lot of hot air about the EU, it was the Tory's that took the UK into the EU and the Socialist Labour Party who wanted not to join, or leave once we were in.
It is confirmed, PM BoJo.
Well, not just yet.
Hardly the most diverse lot - shows how imbalanced all parties are.
Around a quarter of them are, or were, self-employed and nearly half of them work, or used to, in the private sector.
Nearly four out of 10 put their annual income at over £30,000, and one in 20 put it at over £100,000. As such, Tory members are considerably better-off than most voters and, indeed, the members of other parties.
On the other hand, the fact that 97% of Conservative Party members are white doesn't do much to distinguish them from their counterparts in other parties.
It does inevitably mean, however, that ethnic minorities, who make up well over 10% of British people, are heavily under-represented in the Tory rank and file.
So, too, are women. Other parties - notably Labour and the Greens, but also the SNP - now come close to gender balance, but seven out of 10 Conservative members are male.
I get the impression that’s an urban myth.
There are various quotes from him pro EU.
His anti EU articles whilst prolific dont necessarily say much about his beliefs. I suspect it was more laziness and the need for attention that drove them. A serious reporter would have got far less headlines and attention paid.
I get the impression that’s an urban myth.
It's not. The mark of just how conflicted he is over Europe was the two articles he wrote for the Telegraph as he decided whether to back Leave or Remain in 2016. The Leave one was published, the Remain one remained unpublished.
In fact, it's not so much that he is conflicted, as apathetic, and only interested in the strategy that most benefits Boris Johnson. An opportunist, a fraud, a charlatan and a bully. **** him.
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I was surprised by how un-rich most of the party membership is. 60% of them have an income of less than £30k
A third of the members are over retirement age, so this shouldn't surprise you.
Sorry guys, but I don't think we need Yet Another Politics thread. There's already a 16-page (and counting) thread discussing our glorious leader.
https://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/boris-johnson-2/
