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I'll have to go out and have another play in it. Last time i drove it it certainly wasn't prioritizing electric mode. It was switching between them based on load/speed.


 
Posted : 17/05/2017 1:08 pm
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If you are doing any kind of distance run at speed, after the battery has expired you are looking at 30mpg ish or even less.

Yes but you can control how the battery gets used, as I said above.

But if you are doing 100 miles, whatever happens 70-75 miles of that will be mostly petrol.

But that could make a huge boost to economy if the remaining 25-30 miles is a series of huge traffic jams. That could get you across London.

If you share the OP's usage profile, you will be using vastly less petrol per year in one of these things, even if the petrol you are using is at 30mpg.


 
Posted : 17/05/2017 1:15 pm
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Decision made, we've found the perfect car. SUV, Haldex 4WD for those difficult bike-race-car-park-in-a-field moments, 44mpg, diesel. Cost = £400

What is it? Why its our current Kuga, with the £400 used for an after market tow bar and Thule rack for Mrs K to be able to manage the kids bikes.

Job done cheaply. Perhaps not the E-school run vehicle we wanted, but an experiment this morning results in a tick in the box that our youngest 4yo is now capable of riding to school when she starts in September so it won't get used much for that.

Things like a 1.4 3008/Tiguan might do but I'm not spending 30k on one for 5000 miles a year max in town so we'll wait a year and see what crops up second hand.


 
Posted : 18/05/2017 10:57 am
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Another recursive K57 thread....


 
Posted : 18/05/2017 11:57 am
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I think you're getting it, Kryton.


 
Posted : 18/05/2017 12:42 pm
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Another recursive K57 thread....

I had to look up 'recursive'! 😕


 
Posted : 18/05/2017 12:59 pm
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A mitusbishi phev will do around 28-30 miles max on electric, as long as you stay below sixty and avoid the hills.

Colleague at work gets max 20 miles electric on his Mitsubishi, and roughly 30mpg overall.

My avergae in my 3 series PHEV is now up to 55mpg (above the old 320d I had). Averages about 15 miles on electric. Motorway journeys are some where between 40/45mg @ 80ish. 8 year battery warranty.

Listened to an interesting Radio 4 article about battery powered cars, and they said they are not more eco than petrol/diesel as they require precious metals for the batteries.


 
Posted : 18/05/2017 1:10 pm
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And for those that missed it, the precious metals for the batteries are acquired like this:
http://news.sky.com/story/meet-dorsen-8-who-mines-cobalt-to-make-your-smartphone-work-10784120


 
Posted : 18/05/2017 1:18 pm
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Listened to an interesting Radio 4 article about battery powered cars, and they said they are not more eco than petrol/diesel as they require precious metals for the batteries.

Unfortunately, words like "green" and "eco" are too vague, hence the mass confusion of diesel car owners who feel under attack for their pollution levels.

Apart from the NOx "kill the kids down the road" vs greenhouse gasses "kill the planet for the kids down the road" dichotomy, there's also the problem with buying a Prius from Japan and shipping it over vs. running your old gas-guzzler. A lot of cars are trying to save weight by using aluminium but that is very energy intensive ( https://recyclenation.com/2010/11/aluminum-extraction-recycling-environment/) and so it goes. Best buy a bike I reckon. It makes you happy, too.


 
Posted : 18/05/2017 1:24 pm
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I had to look up 'recursive'!

Google recursion.

It says 'did you mean [u]recursion[/u]?


 
Posted : 18/05/2017 1:34 pm
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there's also the problem with buying a Prius from Japan and shipping it over vs. running your old gas-guzzler

Yes but as you point out it's increasingly complex because the Prius factory in Japan (at least the old one - there's now one in the US) has loads of solar panels and purifies the water it uses and so on - and the car has loads of recycled and recyclable stuff in it.

And re aluminium - a lot of smelting is done next to hydroelectric dams because it's cheaper - but also clean. But a lot probably isn't too.


 
Posted : 18/05/2017 1:35 pm
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Bugger - so my C220 which has an aluminium body, a diesel engine and is averaging over 55mpg is bad then? Annoyingly my little discrete magnetic GB sticker won't stick to the back of it.


 
Posted : 18/05/2017 2:13 pm
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Annoyingly my little discrete magnetic GB sticker won't stick to the back of it.

Glue piece of steel on the other side of the boot lid 🙂


 
Posted : 18/05/2017 2:41 pm
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